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Project Eternity's "GAF Inn" - Under Renovation
- Thread starter Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
- Start date
So I took a look at the footage. Our inn looks a little generic and sparse. Did we not actually submit anything interesting conceptually to Obsidian?
It looks like Obsidian were willing to put in significant design work for the backer inns, going by what I hear about a unique backer inn being carved into a tree. There don't seem to be any distinguishing characteristics about ours, just Bishop as the innkeep (am I really not referenced at all? haha, that's fine, but it would be cool if there were an easter egg or something if someone using my portrait for the main character interacted with Bishop at the inn, at least!), and I guess the goose and fox sign above the door vaguely forms the NeoGAF logo, but it's hard to tell if it does the in the footage. Is that it? :/
Since it was a community project with community money (I contributed, but yeah), I didn't want to be too hands-on with this, but I guess the concept posts I wrote during the formative stages of this didn't end up being utilized at all. There were a lot of fun things that could have been done, Obsidian-willing.
It looks like Obsidian were willing to put in significant design work for the backer inns, going by what I hear about a unique backer inn being carved into a tree. There don't seem to be any distinguishing characteristics about ours, just Bishop as the innkeep (am I really not referenced at all? haha, that's fine, but it would be cool if there were an easter egg or something if someone using my portrait for the main character interacted with Bishop at the inn, at least!), and I guess the goose and fox sign above the door vaguely forms the NeoGAF logo, but it's hard to tell if it does the in the footage. Is that it? :/
Since it was a community project with community money (I contributed, but yeah), I didn't want to be too hands-on with this, but I guess the concept posts I wrote during the formative stages of this didn't end up being utilized at all. There were a lot of fun things that could have been done, Obsidian-willing.
The worst thing we could be is boring.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Nice piece of real-estate though.
I thought that we didn't have that much input on the design of the inn as all we got earlier was questions on generic stuff like "round or square tables/windows", "brick or wood walls" and so forth. I assumed that they didn't wanna spend too much time on it or that the style was mostly locked down because of the location of the inn. Maybe the tree was a already planned out inn and someone just claimed it as their own spot.
This was the logo outside on the inn, a little hard to see due to stream quality.
Just noticed that they sadly didn't go for a stylized version of the GAF logo. And the colors are inverted.
This was the logo outside on the inn, a little hard to see due to stream quality.
Just noticed that they sadly didn't go for a stylized version of the GAF logo. And the colors are inverted.
Necromanti
Member
Is that a goose riding a cat?This was the logo outside on the inn, a little hard to see due to stream quality.
EDIT: Never mind, I see it mentioned above that it's a goose and a fox.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I kind of feel like it was weakened by being a community project. As far as I know the only details that were submitted to Obsidian were the ones we had a poll on, and that was just the basic description of the inn (window style/table style/etc). Shagg would have to chime in regarding any back-and-forth with Obsidian beyond that, but there definitely wasn't any here. Had it been an individual effort like the other inn(s), it would have been easier to communicate ideas and work together with the devs to make something interesting.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Everybody wanted the big nice and fancy hotel. I told you guys we should have went for something more humble
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Hey Evilore,
I understand what you mean. I did provide them as much textual detail (including your writeup) and more. I also told them to make sure it fits the game's lore and universe and doesn't seem like it's a bad amalgamation of ideas. You were referenced in the description as well but I can't tell what has or what hasn't made it to the final game until we play it ourselves.
From the looks of it, they had a very big scope but when they dealt with thousands of backer content, and try to make sense of it with their own content they probably focused on ensuring everything makes it in without getting too complicated. It does make it sound like a barebone completion from what you've observed.
I am so happy that the inn made it through and they did a pretty job at it, but you're right about a lot of fun things that could've been utilized. I love GAF and I'm beyond relieved this made it in with the help of everyone's support, including yours!
I will definitely take the blame for any laziness on my part.
Shagg you've been outstanding in this whole process, don't be too hard on yourself; it's a difficult task to collate everyone's ideas into a meaningful design.
You went above and beyond to make it all happen, so absolutely don't worry about it or take any blame. It's tough since it was a community project where everyone who contributed deserved a say in it, and you of course want to be fair to everyone, too. And, yeah, ultimately, while $5000 is a significant amount of money, it's not a lot of person-hours of game development, so I shouldn't be too presumptuous about what Obsidian could realistically implement. Just the initial reaction to seeing a sparse brown room with nothing much going on is, "bummer..."
But hey, it looks like it's in a really prime location in the game, and maybe there are some cool references and easter eggs in there in dialogue when speaking to people inside.
Seraph_Nicholas
Member
It would be nice if they could flip the logo, at least. Seems like a minimum of work.
Bananajama
Banned
I look forward to having an ale in your fair inn GAF and discovering new gossip, gambling my hard earned coin, getting into fights and giving the buxom serving wench a fine slap on the rump.
Hoo har!
Hoo har!
As I thought then, already kinda planned out but someone laid pretty much claim to it.
Nah our inn should have totally been in a pocket dimension containing booze and bad relationship advice.
We voted on stuff like the inn concept too; I have no idea what ultimately got submitted, though.