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Protests escalate in Hong Kong, violent clashes with police (Update: HKG airport grounded; mainland military rolling in)

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The citizens of Hong Kong don’t want to be part of the authoritarian robotic ant colony that is greater China. Chinese people have no creativity, no sense of freedom, and only do as they are told.

Can you blame them?
When this grossly misinformed about an issue, best to keep your thoughts contained. You're embarrassing everyone by proxy. shenzhen next door to hong kong is a hub of creativity and high tech innovation. China itself produced more patents than the US in 2018. Hong Kong just moves cash around and profits from those goods.

You parrot a typical munchausen hong konger, downright asswipes to the rest of the people in their country despite the brits having treated hong kongers like 2nd class animals for decades. Developed a love for their long term oppressors that gave them zero democracy and shot them dead in protests similar to this one.

EDIT: My guess, they will round them up, use the trucks to ship them off to the re-education camps they already have plenty of in the far west part of the country and then never be heard of again.
Pretty much. There's room for millions in those facilities. These ingrates chose this for themselves. They can go home and stop blocking streets any time they so choose.

HK is such a cool place with a great culture. Seems like we're watching a slow motion nuke go off. :messenger_pensive:

Not at all. Hong Kong is a less interesting, less inventive, less creative, less dynamic version of Shenzhen next door. It's a tax haven and billionaire playground. Nothing of value will be lost.
 
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When this grossly misinformed about an issue, best to keep your thoughts contained. You're embarrassing everyone by proxy. shenzhen next door to hong kong is a hub of creativity and high tech innovation. China itself produced more patents than the US in 2018. Hong Kong just moves cash around and profits from those goods.

You parrot a typical munchausen hong konger, downright asswipes to the rest of the people in their country despite the brits having treated hong kongers like 2nd class animals for decades. Developed a love for their long term oppressors that gave them zero democracy and shot them dead in protests similar to this one.



Pretty much. There's room for millions in those facilities. These ingrates chose this for themselves. They can go home and stop blocking streets any time they so choose.




Not at all. Hong Kong is a less interesting, less inventive, less creative, less dynamic version of Shenzhen next door. It's a tax haven and billionaire playground. Nothing of value will be lost.
Is this guy a Beijing shill or something...?
 

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Protesters like this are calling for violence - pretty scary stuff.

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Right now, I think what started as a decent and peaceful protest has begun to evolve into something akin to Antifa. Black is the uniform of choice and of course, the faces are covered.
 

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Is this guy a Beijing shill or something...?
Alright Beijing Bob, bring it down a level.
I see frustration, but no real response. I'm just somebody that's very well travelled (thus well informed on the condition of the lives of the people in these conversations- americans included) and tired of being ass blasted 24/7 by one sided American propaganda. It gets old after....30 years.

I can understand some of you kids born post 00's or barely travelled. You're conditioned, you can only think one way.
 
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I see frustration, but no real response. I'm just somebody that's very well travelled (thus well informed on the condition of the lives of the people in these conversations- americans included) and tired of being ass blasted 24/7 by one sided American propaganda. It gets old after....30 years.

I can understand some of you kids born post 00's or barely travelled. You're conditioned, you can only think one way.
How many social credits do you get per post?

Born pre-80, traveled plenty, especially as a contractor.

I just wanted to use Beijing Bob, it gave me a chuckle.
 

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How many social credits do you get per post?

Born pre-80, traveled plenty, especially as a contractor.

I just wanted to use Beijing Bob, it gave me a chuckle.
Sigh, more very fake news. You can have any agenda, just be honest about it. I want these protestors to see reality for their own good. They can't win against China, so either they desist or die. I'm against these protests because they are bad for the population of hong kong. They will even accelerate the demise of the two state system. They could have enjoyed autonomy for another 30 years. It could end next year.

i wish them the best
This is disingenuous, even macabre. You know they fight a futile fight. YOU KNOW they will be crushed, killed then destroyed 10x over. And you 'wish them the best'?

You're simply misinformed then, I doubt you're that malicious. I wish them safe and sound by urging them to go back home and stop playing with fire.
 
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Sigh, more very fake news.



This is disingenuous, even macabre. You know they fight a futile fight. YOU KNOW they will be crushed, killed then destroyed 10x over. And you 'wish them the best'?

You're simply misinformed then. I wish them safe and sound by urging them to go back home and stop playing with fire.
wat? i wish them the same thing bruv, take some pills or whatever and relax
 
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Financially/culturally speaking. Hong Kong is as Cantonese as Cantonese gets. there are many Cantonese cities in China. As for finance, there are many financial hubs in the region, Shanghai recently surpassed Hong Kong on that front. Obviously I wish Hong Kongs PEACEFUL residents all the best. They have nothing to fear, they aren't on the streets blinding police with laser pointers. Something that would get you shot real quick in the west.
 
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In completely unrelated news:

Good news for anyone with acute liver or kidney disease.
By end of next week we expect the waiting time for new organs in China to drop from the current 14 days a mere 16 hours.

(Don't ask why the current waiting time is so short either.)
/s
 

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I like Hong Kong; the skyline, transport and food are basically the best in the world, but beyond that it's pretty much finished. The whole damn place is falling apart and it's had its cultural day in the sun. No space to grow, no innovation and living on industries which the world is trending against. That said, all this mess is a sad end for a cool place and mostly nice people.
 
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I don't know all that much about this situation, or the region in general. Bits and pieces.

But for the past few years it's worried me at a gut level how deeply in bed with China Hollywood has gotten. I'm sure anyone who watches movies has noticed, from The Rock's Skyscraper [set in HK, actually], The Meg, and plenty of other films that are clearly influenced by Chinese media.

Is this really who we want influencing our media? Paying our celebrities paychecks? I mean, it's bad enough we propagandize ourselves.

I don't know. It's unavoidable in some regard, i suppose, and it's not like Hollywood is innocent of cultural imperialism. But at the same time, China has never seemed to be a country which valued the individual. Granted, my knowledge of China is primarily via American propaganda, though I have watched dozens of Chinese martial arts films and comedies [they love chicken butt jokes for some reason] so i have some limited sense of their film culture [and low key racism against white people, lol, though again, Hollywood has it's misteps too].

My knowledge of HK is also primarily through their films, and the occassional food show i watch with my wife. I wish the best for them.
 
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I like Hong Kong; the skyline, transport and food are basically the best in the world, but beyond that it's pretty much finished. The whole damn place is falling apart and it's had its cultural day in the sun. No space to grow, no innovation and living on industries which the world is trending against. That said, all this mess is a sad end for a cool place and mostly nice people.
I wouldn't take it that far, but I do notice that the HK movie and entertainment industry just isn't what it used to be.
 

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I think china is just testing waters to see how they can assimilate that city in the fastest way possible. I would not be shocked if we see tanks go into that city at the end of the year or next year.
This is what happened to my country in 1968. We started to realize that socialism sucks and communism is an utter failure so we slowly moved away from it and instead went for capitalism. The 60s in my country were very leisurely in comparison to previous and following decades. Then the Soviets noticed that one of their slave states is acting up a bit, so they sent an entire army here in 1968 to pacify us and began, what they called, "normalization" aka oppression and state sanctioned terror. Hong Kong is on track for the same future. And like in the 60s, nobody will give a shit.

But for the past few years it's worried me at a gut level how deeply in bed with China Hollywood has gotten. I'm sure anyone who watches movies has noticed, from The Rock's Skyscraper [set in HK, actually], The Meg, and plenty of other films that are clearly influenced by Chinese media.
Yeah, it is pretty nasty. How in most Hollywood movies the Chinese have to be the good guys (Mortal Engines) or just have to be approved in general by the Chinese censors before they come out.
 
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Am I the only one here that recognizes China for what it actually is both in form and function (a hyper industrialized ethnocentric Fascist regime) and the dangers of spitting in its face when you know nobody is coming to save you when it decides to stomp you out of existence? You guys are egging on these protestors not out of any realistic sense of duty to muh export democracy, but out of spite and feels. Maybe some of you are doing it due to fantastical notions of little guy is always right romanticism. Either way you seem to want them to be slaughtered like little piggies...just on the off chance it might make china look...bad...in the media? lol

Malicious. Blood thirsty even. Definitely irresponsible. This isn't your everyday middle eastern failed quasi-state. It's china. It's more efficient than any western regime. Yes they will get stomped, no it won't make China look like anything it isn't already. And you will continue consuming its goods.

And yeah I've seen those trucks before in Urumqi. Hundreds of trucks filled with thousands of PaP come in accompanied by herding armored vehicles, then the trucks leave filled with thousands of protesters. Rinse and repeat until every person that's on the street in hong kong still protesting is reduced to 0.
 

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Yes, us foreign white devils are more to blame here then the brave soldiers of the PAP who brave laser weapons to crush the protests.
 

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I was there in 2014 for a week on vacation. They already had a lot of bills pro democracy hanging around if I recall that correctly so it has been a long time coming. I fear the worst for HK people 😔
 

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Yet they threw a huge birthday bash for Karl Marx.


Whether or not they want to practice "real" communism or not, they are hella sympathetic to the cause.

If they were more like Modern Russia, who are antagonistic but not a direct successor to the USSR, I wouldn't mind. But China still maintains one party rule, the government has a complete crackdown of society, they are for all intents and purposes, keeping the Communist legacy going.
Problem is they also hide their hard line nationalism behind the communism veil, just like North Korea. At least Yugoslavia, Armenia and Azerbaijan were in peace for 45 years. Something remarkable considering the ethnic tensions after the collapses. China were among the most backward communist States too, with desolate regions, unlike European countries that were in contact with European culture since antiquity.

They are limited regionally to their own turf. Russia had their eyes on Asia, Eastern Europe, the Balkans for centuries, even before Marx was born. Panslavism veiled as Communism proved a good excuse for control.

Unlike the Soviet Union, they are not set on World dominance via nuclear weapons and expansionist wars that forced USSR to go over budget.
Their version of Communism is only suited for them. Eg they are on bad terms with Vietnam, second most populated communist country, despite the latter being also socialists
 

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Am I the only one here that recognizes China for what it actually is both in form and function (a hyper industrialized ethnocentric Fascist regime) and the dangers of spitting in its face when you know nobody is coming to save you when it decides to stomp you out of existence? You guys are egging on these protestors not out of any realistic sense of duty to muh export democracy, but out of spite and feels. Maybe some of you are doing it due to fantastical notions of little guy is always right romanticism. Either way you seem to want them to be slaughtered like little piggies...just on the off chance it might make china look...bad...in the media? lol

Malicious. Blood thirsty even. Definitely irresponsible. This isn't your everyday middle eastern failed quasi-state. It's china. It's more efficient than any western regime. Yes they will get stomped, no it won't make China look like anything it isn't already. And you will continue consuming its goods.

And yeah I've seen those trucks before in Urumqi. Hundreds of trucks filled with thousands of PaP come in accompanied by herding armored vehicles, then the trucks leave filled with thousands of protesters. Rinse and repeat until every person that's on the street in hong kong still protesting is reduced to 0.
But but but, I will stand up against them. I will tweet an angry tweet to force China to stop the violence.
These folks in HK should learn what REAL oppression and living in a totalitarian state is. Like when your presidents sends mean tweets to people and takes two scoops of icecream!
 
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Everytime and everywhere is the same with protesters. They are the good guys against an oppressive government for people living outside the country and they are the violent and annoying disruptors of free movement and an orderly society for people living inside the country. I've seen it time and time again. The same criticisms people in the US have of antifa, the common people of Hong Kong will have against the protesters I can almost guarantee it.
 

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Everytime and everywhere is the same with protesters. They are the good guys against an oppressive government for people living outside the country and they are the violent and annoying disruptors of free movement and an orderly society for people living inside the country. I've seen it time and time again. The same criticisms people in the US have of antifa, the common people of Hong Kong will have against the protesters I can almost guarantee it.
Sources friendly to the protesters (so, possibly suffering from skew) estimate protesters reached up to 2 million, or 1/4th of Hong Kong's total population. The common people are the protestors, I can almost guarantee it.

These two situations are not in the least bit analogous.
 

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Sources friendly to the protesters (so, possibly suffering from skew) estimate protesters reached up to 2 million, or 1/4th of Hong Kong's total population. The common people are the protestors, I can almost guarantee it.

These two situations are not in the least bit analogous.
Another thing that happens very often is one side or the other over or underestimating the amount of protesters...
 

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Another thing that happens very often is one side or the other over or underestimating the amount of protesters...
This is why I mentioned "sources friendly to the protesters".

That doesn't change the crux of my argument. You are saying the "common people" are going to view the HK protesters like "common people" in the USA view Antifa. That's a huge stretch.
 

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Sources friendly to the protesters (so, possibly suffering from skew) estimate protesters reached up to 2 million, or 1/4th of Hong Kong's total population. The common people are the protestors, I can almost guarantee it.

These two situations are not in the least bit analogous.

"He’ll also enlist a team. In 2010, for instance, Doig covered labor protests in Lisbon with the help of several students. They came up with a method based on time: “Ten seconds is pretty much the limit of attention span,” he says. His students positioned themselves at different points along the parade route and counted how many protestors marched by every ten seconds. The team checked for consistent crowd density, and later they compared numbers, before multiplying their tally by the length of time the march took. In the end, the labor unions claimed to have 100,000 protestors. Doig’s team estimated that the actual number was closer to 10,000.

In Hong Kong, because the protests moved through so many streets, the real challenge, Doig says, is in knowing the “available population.” In 2017 Hong Kong had 7.4 million residents. “If they’re claiming 1 million marched, ask yourself if truly one in every seven people is here,” Doig says. “Ask: Are enough people not here to explain how everything in this city is still operating? How many of the population are kids in school right now, not on the street? What percentage of the total population are able-bodied adults?”

It’s also worth checking Google Earth, and trying to measure the potential area in which a crowd can gather. Using this method when reviewing a photograph of the Hong Kong demonstrations (above) published this week in The New York Times, Doig figures that the space in view, Hennessy Road, is 210 meters long and 25 meters across, or some 5,500 square meters. At the front, people were a little less than an arm’s length apart, he observes—tight for a parade, but not as dense as a standing crowd—which would make for one person per square meter (roughly ten square feet, per the Herb Jacobs rule). “An Asian crowd tends to be filled with people who aren’t as, er, large as us beefy Americans,” he says, “and they are more accustomed to being in tighter quarters. So I am arbitrarily going to call this a density of 0.8 square meters per person.” That makes for about 7,000 people in the photo.

“That doesn’t help estimate the total crowd that day because we have no idea of all the streets that may have been filled,” he adds. Buildings in Hong Kong are so tall that satellite images can be tough to collect, and overhead footage becomes nearly impossible to decipher. From what he’s seen from sources on the ground, he would accept conservative estimates—of some quarter of a million protesters in Hong Kong. It would be impossible to make a reliable calculation himself. If 7,000 people fit in 210 meters, there would need to be 142.9 street segments, or about 18.6 miles of streets packed at once to count a million protestors, which seems like too many. None of this is exact science, Doig says. “Is that what happened? Dunno.”"
 

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"He’ll also enlist a team. In 2010, for instance, Doig covered labor protests in Lisbon with the help of several students. They came up with a method based on time: “Ten seconds is pretty much the limit of attention span,” he says. His students positioned themselves at different points along the parade route and counted how many protestors marched by every ten seconds. The team checked for consistent crowd density, and later they compared numbers, before multiplying their tally by the length of time the march took. In the end, the labor unions claimed to have 100,000 protestors. Doig’s team estimated that the actual number was closer to 10,000.

In Hong Kong, because the protests moved through so many streets, the real challenge, Doig says, is in knowing the “available population.” In 2017 Hong Kong had 7.4 million residents. “If they’re claiming 1 million marched, ask yourself if truly one in every seven people is here,” Doig says. “Ask: Are enough people not here to explain how everything in this city is still operating? How many of the population are kids in school right now, not on the street? What percentage of the total population are able-bodied adults?”

It’s also worth checking Google Earth, and trying to measure the potential area in which a crowd can gather. Using this method when reviewing a photograph of the Hong Kong demonstrations (above) published this week in The New York Times, Doig figures that the space in view, Hennessy Road, is 210 meters long and 25 meters across, or some 5,500 square meters. At the front, people were a little less than an arm’s length apart, he observes—tight for a parade, but not as dense as a standing crowd—which would make for one person per square meter (roughly ten square feet, per the Herb Jacobs rule). “An Asian crowd tends to be filled with people who aren’t as, er, large as us beefy Americans,” he says, “and they are more accustomed to being in tighter quarters. So I am arbitrarily going to call this a density of 0.8 square meters per person.” That makes for about 7,000 people in the photo.

“That doesn’t help estimate the total crowd that day because we have no idea of all the streets that may have been filled,” he adds. Buildings in Hong Kong are so tall that satellite images can be tough to collect, and overhead footage becomes nearly impossible to decipher. From what he’s seen from sources on the ground, he would accept conservative estimates—of some quarter of a million protesters in Hong Kong. It would be impossible to make a reliable calculation himself. If 7,000 people fit in 210 meters, there would need to be 142.9 street segments, or about 18.6 miles of streets packed at once to count a million protestors, which seems like too many. None of this is exact science, Doig says. “Is that what happened? Dunno.”"
Again, casting doubt on the total estimates of people doesn't validate your claim that the common people in HK will criticize the protesters the same way US citizens criticize Antifa. The two groups are very different, the situations are different, and the attitude toward the protesters are (obviously) different, based on available information.
 

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This is why I mentioned "sources friendly to the protesters".

That doesn't change the crux of my argument. You are saying the "common people" are going to view the HK protesters like "common people" in the USA view Antifa. That's a huge stretch.
I'm saying how it usually goes, I don't know the situation in Hong Kong specifically though. It could be different I agree. (Although who knows, like the calculation above shows a number of 2 million is probably highly exaggerated which is a common thing with the typical overestimation from the opposing side).

But there has already seen criticisms on the protests and the Chinese government seems to be aware that if the vandalizing and blocking of services continues it will put the population more and more against the protesters which is a typical strategy by any government trying to quench protesters, basically slowly put the population against them by dragging protests which disrupt everyday life and then the government has their job done for them.
 

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Sources friendly to the protesters (so, possibly suffering from skew) estimate protesters reached up to 2 million, or 1/4th of Hong Kong's total population. The common people are the protestors, I can almost guarantee it.

These two situations are not in the least bit analogous.
I think those numbers were just initially two months ago.
Now it is only a few thousand of the most dedicated core. Everyone else have said their word and have gone back to work and living a normal life.

These remaining 5-10.000 kids though should be careful. Don't mess with China and ESPECIALLY don't start go around and shouting the S-word or China will get very upset and prone to violent overreaction.
 

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Again, casting doubt on the total estimates of people doesn't validate your claim that the common people in HK will criticize the protesters the same way US citizens criticize Antifa. The two groups are very different, the situations are different, and the attitude toward the protesters are (obviously) different, based on available information.
Look at what it says in this article, the wording and the actors.


"On Monday -- the anniversary of Hong Kong's 1997 handover to Chinese rule -- hundreds of thousands of peaceful protesters marched in the city. Throughout the day however, thousands of protesters laid siege to the Legislative Council building, and late at night a few hundred, mainly in their teens and twenties and wearing protective gear, broke in and occupied it for several hours."
Once through the large metal shutters guarding the entry to the building, frustrated and angry protesters destroyed anything in sight in the building's foyer and nearby area in a brief spasm of violence, though they left some rooms and objects untouched after the intervention of lawmakers.
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He also said personal information was stolen when protesters removed computer servers and hard drives.
The level of aggression seen on Monday -- which came after a month of largely peaceful protests against a proposed law which would allow extradition to China -- has been met with condemnation from some politicians and conservative voices.
Lawmaker Priscilla Leung was among a number of lawyers who signed an open letter Wednesday, calling the destruction "absolutely unacceptable" and "a disgrace."
"We strongly condemn the thugs' behavior in clashing, damaging and insulting the Legislative Council," the letter read. "We fully support the police to enforce the law and arrest these mobs and safeguarding the law and order of Hong Kong."
But many others have spoken out in support of protesters, arguing that the government had failed to listen when protesters took more peaceful actions -- including marches in June that attracted hundreds of thousands of protesters.
Civil Human Rights Front -- which has organized multiple large-scale peaceful demonstrations against the law -- said that the protesters had taken a step that "none of us were brave enough to take."
Activist and singer Denise Ho tweeted on Wednesday that it was easy for people to "condemn violence" while looking at a few images from the outside.
"Dig deeper and you will understand the desperation in these kids, and the courage they have to be forging ahead of everyone, so they can find hope for everyone else."
Lol, this could pretty well be an article of antifa's violent protests and the conservatives and politicians condemning them and calling them thugs and claiming they support the police and the keeping of order, while human rights groups, activists and artists would side with the protesters basically calling the violence or their tactics justifiable. The article is almost an act per act script of antifa in the US, the same type of reactions expected from the same actors on both sides.

I'm not saying the situations are completely equal but the overall mirroring of both situations in many ways is pretty obvious. Local conservatives criticizing and condemning the protesters, while local left-ish actors and human rights groups siding with them while the opposite is true from those groups that judge the situation from an outside perspective.
 
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Beijing Bob is an Aussie:

He's got a point that doing business with China no longer needs an intermediary in Hong Kong like the old days. For business visitors Hong Kong is just a nice place to land have a good evening and some beers before you go to the mainland and then once again before you go back home.
 
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I'm just wondering if those shilling for China would fancy living there some time. I suspect you might change your views quickly.

In other news, this shit is just the latest in a long line of China giving no fucks about human rights and freedoms. Unfortunately as our corporate masters have sold our jobs to the Chinese slave-masters we have enriched the Chinese government (for the corporations are merely extensions of that government) to fund this kind of shit (as well as them buying all our strategic assets - see sale of ARM and the UK letting China build its nuclear power plants ffs).

We should not be trading with these arseholes. The left should be all over this shit, asking why we're funding slavery, and pointing out that our workforces with some basic human rights protections can never compete economically against slavery. Sadly, the left is fucked.
 

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Look at what it says in this article, the wording and the actors.



Lol, this could pretty well be an article of antifa's violent protests and the conservatives and politicians condemning them and calling them thugs and claiming they support the police and the keeping of order, while human rights groups, activists and artists would side with the protesters basically calling the violence or their tactics justifiable. The article is almost an act per act script of antifa in the US, the same type of reactions expected from the same actors on both sides.

I'm not saying the situations are completely equal but the overall mirroring of both situations in many ways is pretty obvious. Local conservatives criticizing and condemning the protesters, while local left-ish actors and human rights groups siding with them while the opposite is true from those groups that judge the situation from an outside perspective.
I'll agree on this point: both the positive/mum stance toward Antifa in the USA and the flood of anti-protester sentiment come from the same source, a complicit press.
 

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China are not going to fuck around with putting down this color revolution. Street movements are always co-opted, they never work. As soon as violence starts escalating, you know it's over.
 
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I'll agree on this point: both the positive/mum stance toward Antifa in the USA and the flood of anti-protester sentiment come from the same source, a complicit press.
The establishment wants to condemn those who want liberty and freedom. Fall in line, citizen!

Antifa does the fascist bidding for said establishment, attempting to oppress free speech. Only the establishment's narratives and rhetoric are the "truth", over facts.

 
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Am I the only one here that recognizes China for what it actually is both in form and function (a hyper industrialized ethnocentric Fascist regime) and the dangers of spitting in its face when you know nobody is coming to save you when it decides to stomp you out of existence? You guys are egging on these protestors not out of any realistic sense of duty to muh export democracy, but out of spite and feels. Maybe some of you are doing it due to fantastical notions of little guy is always right romanticism. Either way you seem to want them to be slaughtered like little piggies...just on the off chance it might make china look...bad...in the media? lol

Malicious. Blood thirsty even. Definitely irresponsible. This isn't your everyday middle eastern failed quasi-state. It's china. It's more efficient than any western regime. Yes they will get stomped, no it won't make China look like anything it isn't already. And you will continue consuming its goods.

And yeah I've seen those trucks before in Urumqi. Hundreds of trucks filled with thousands of PaP come in accompanied by herding armored vehicles, then the trucks leave filled with thousands of protesters. Rinse and repeat until every person that's on the street in hong kong still protesting is reduced to 0.
lol, copypasta

Are you, a sinoboo or an expat living in Australia?
 

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I wish. The kids clearly don't know why they are interrupting everybody's flights. As for the fat Aussie, he started to get on the right track when he mentioned that the authorities have been amazingly restrained. In Australia shining laser pointers into police eyes would have led to severe beatings, sentences and many arrests, in the US they would have been shot and in Europe well we know how the yellow vests are being treated by French police...makes hong kong protest violence look like a picnic.
lol, copypasta

Are you, a sinoboo or an expat living in Australia?
Just tired of the one sided silliness. I saw a story of a Chinese woman trying to get to her flight, she had to force her way through these kid protesters and she 'injured a few of them by stepping on their 'feet'. Are you fucking serious? The media was pining away for the poor idiots blocking an aircraft departure gate. These same kids would be fucking curb stomped and put into jail cells here in the west if they dared compromise airport security in this way.

I'm just wondering if those shilling for China would fancy living there some time. I suspect you might change your views quickly.
Been there, done that. Of all the regions in China, Hong Kong was least free and felt most policed like here in Australia. Fines and curfews out the ass for simple things like drinking a coke on the metro. Mainland China is complete freedom and anarchy if you're not actively trying to get noticed or caught up in that whole Uighur revolt.
 
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Things coming to an edge.
At least they did not keep any organ harvesting vans in the convoy. Maybe that is what they meant with "do not mistake our restraint with weakness".

EDIT: My guess, they will round them up, use the trucks to ship them off to the re-education camps they already have plenty of in the far west part of the country and then never be heard of again.
 

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Am I the only one here that recognizes China for what it actually is both in form and function (a hyper industrialized ethnocentric Fascist regime) and the dangers of spitting in its face when you know nobody is coming to save you when it decides to stomp you out of existence? You guys are egging on these protestors not out of any realistic sense of duty to muh export democracy, but out of spite and feels. Maybe some of you are doing it due to fantastical notions of little guy is always right romanticism. Either way you seem to want them to be slaughtered like little piggies...just on the off chance it might make china look...bad...in the media? lol

Malicious. Blood thirsty even. Definitely irresponsible. This isn't your everyday middle eastern failed quasi-state. It's china. It's more efficient than any western regime. Yes they will get stomped, no it won't make China look like anything it isn't already. And you will continue consuming its goods.

And yeah I've seen those trucks before in Urumqi. Hundreds of trucks filled with thousands of PaP come in accompanied by herding armored vehicles, then the trucks leave filled with thousands of protesters. Rinse and repeat until every person that's on the street in hong kong still protesting is reduced to 0.
I can sum up your absolutely idiotic, and historically ignorant post in one sentence;

Dont fight against oppression, it never works.

Your whole mindset is one of a coward.

Has it even occurred to you that this may set off something bigger within China, or from the rest of the world if China goes to far? Have you ever cracked open a history book in all your travels showing how dissent changed, created, and formed nations?

Your a pompous ass for looking down on people who want their freedom, and autonomy. Dont you dare prattle on about western cheerleading, when your calling china More efficient then any western regime.

Your plain ignorant.
 
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