PS4 FW 1.7 coming soon (HDCP off, Export video to USB, & Video Editor)

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Still coming? That was never supposed to come, and it never will. The reason you can have both a game and Netflix running at the same time (actually, they aren't technically running at the same time - the game gets suspended (still in RAM but not actively running anymore) when you start Netflix) is because games and OS + apps have separate parts of the memory dedicated to them (5 GB for games, 3 GB for other stuff, as far as we know), so they are both in RAM at the same time. This allows the system to very quickly switch between them. But that wouldn't work with two games. A running game can use up to 5 GB of memory, so two games couldn't be in RAM at the same time. The first game's RAM data would have to written to the HDD (like when you put a PC in hibernation mode), and that would likely take longer than quitting the first game and booting the second.

What we are expecting to come is standby suspension of games, i.e. the game still being kept in RAM as the console is put in standby mode (not when it's fully powered down) so that you can jump right back to where you were when you boot the console again.
You can already do this on Xbox One, I don't believe it's a technical impossibility.
 
if this is true, they're dumping the ram to the harddrive when you switch between games, which isn't going to be very instant
It's instant. I can have MGS GZ, Dead Rising and AC4 running at the same time and hop between them instantly, though I have noticed if I leave them in memory for over a day it restarts that session.
 

coolasj19

Why are you reading my tag instead of the title of my post?
Ooh I remember Tidux from some other hints/rumors :)
can't remember if you were right though
He was right.
Who is this guy? Can I trust him?
Tidux was tag teaming with DemonNite on PS4 UI details before it was released. He's either been vetted or hasn't been wrong yet. Or both.

Hello again Tidux. No crazy C-Boat esque typing this time?
 

cjp

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What features were advertised before launch that still aren't here? I don't mean things like DLNA and MP3 that are being added after feedback.

Standby game, take control of another players DS4 on stream (I think?), jump in and finish level (or are they the same)?

What else?
 
Are basic features such as pause/resume downloads and alphabetizing the Trophy list coming?

What about better voice controls? Why can't I say "Playstation, Netflix"?
unfortunately I am not a doctor, but if you continue to have problems saying it, you should see a proffesional
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
It's instant. I can have MGS GZ, Dead Rising and AC4 running at the same time and hop between them instantly, though I have noticed if I leave them in memory for over a day it restarts that session.
It's not actually instant. There's a 5-10 second delay with the game title screen. That's when it loads it into ram from the hard drive. It's like a hibernate option on Windows. It offloads the RAM contents into the hard drive, then reloads it when you ask for it.

It is "instant" for gaming purposes, but not instant in the same sense as netflix/game are which is the equivalent of snap. Truly running in parallel in separate areas of ram.

That would be an excellent feature to come to the PS4 though. That and sorting of games and friends into groups would make my day.
 
He was right.

Tidux was tag teaming with DemonNite on PS4 UI details before it was released. He's either been vetted or hasn't been wrong yet. Or both.

Hello again Tidux. No crazy C-Boat esque typing this time?
Hy Coolasj19

well I was not right on everything, some things changed. as an example the length of recordings. but this will be fixed in the new update
 
friends list will be more stable than before, those who have many friends in their list know what I mean. I know nothing about voice control. external hard drive, I know that at least you'll be able to record clips to a usb stick.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Just tell them to turn off the compression algorithm when capturing pics. Needs a lossless option badly.

wtf. I thought you can with triangle button? And also the games and apps on PS4 are still together. MS fixed that months ago.
Go try. Alpha is not available. It's unbelievable.
 
PS4 store runs good but they need to trim it down to something a bit more simple, I dont need moving backgrounds and such, something nice and simple.
Agreed, Sony needs to trim it down a little bit. When they get it working smooth without delay then they can bring it back. I kind of like it.

But Sony, please don't forget to add a demo section.
Or am I that blind?
 
You can already do this on Xbox One, I don't believe it's a technical impossibility.
It's instant. I can have MGS GZ, Dead Rising and AC4 running at the same time and hop between them instantly, though I have noticed if I leave them in memory for over a day it restarts that session.
Actually didn't know the XBO can do this. But no, of course it's not impossible, but as I said it requires dumping RAM to the HDD every time you switch. There are certainly both positives and negatives about that.

And anyway, I'm pretty sure Sony has never said this is coming to the PS4, which is what the original question was about.

It's not actually instant. There's a 5-10 second delay with the game title screen. That's when it loads it into ram from the hard drive. It's like a hibernate option on Windows. It offloads the RAM contents into the hard drive, then reloads it when you ask for it.
That still sounds too fast to be true to my ears. Not saying you're lying or anything, but dumping up to 5 GB of data on the HDD, plus loading the data for the other game, in 5-10 seconds? How is that possible? And how many games can you hibernate at once like this? Surely there's some limit to how much space these hibernation files are allowed to take up.
 
Agreed, Sony needs to trim it down a little bit. When they get it working smooth without delay then they can bring it back. I kind of like it.

But Sony, please don't forget to add a demo section.
Or am I that blind?
You aren't. The store layout is confusing at times. Demos are not easy to locate in the store -_-
 
Agreed, Sony needs to trim it down a little bit. When they get it working smooth without delay then they can bring it back. I kind of like it.

But Sony, please don't forget to add a demo section.
Or am I that blind?
I believe there's a demo section under games and scroll way down, I could be wrong.
 
I've been having an issue recently where all my screenshots display as a gray screen. The only fix I've managed to find is to upload a screenshot, which then displays them all properly. Problem is I have to do this every time I boot up the system, as they appear gray again.

Is this a known issue that will be addressed in the next fw update?
 
I've been having an issue recently where all my screenshots display as a gray screen. The only fix I've managed to find is to upload a screenshot, which then displays them all properly. Problem is I have to do this every time I boot up the system, as they appear gray again.

Is this a known issue that will be addressed in the next fw update?
I think you should contact Sony's customer service
 
I've been having an issue recently where all my screenshots display as a gray screen. The only fix I've managed to find is to upload a screenshot, which then displays them all properly. Problem is I have to do this every time I boot up the system, as they appear gray again.

Is this a known issue that will be addressed in the next fw update?
I've noticed this too, especially while in a game, if I close the game application then it lets me view them
 
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