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[Kieli]

The FAQ doesn't answer a crucial question: do old games play faster on PS4 Pro WITHOUT a patch.

 

[useyourfist]

I have a question, are the layers on the pro thinner then on OG PS4? Or is it literally the size of a PS4 with another layer on top?

 

[Damerman]

The FAQ doesn't answer a crucial question: do old games play faster on PS4 Pro WITHOUT a patch.

they would probably have to patch it because i'm sure most console games have a hard cap on the frame rate.

 

[Deaf Spacker]

The FAQ doesn't answer a crucial question: do old games play faster on PS4 Pro WITHOUT a patch.

Apparently not.

 

[gray_fox224]

I would purchase a Pro if it runs Destiny with 60fps...Anyone else?

 

[truth411]

According to this, sub 1080p games on PS4 run at full 1080p regardless of if they are patched or not, so the GPU is doing work even on its own. CPU wise,who knows

That's not what it saying. Moving Forward, if a game is sub 1080p on PS4 will be 1080 on Pro, older games will need a patch.

 

[truth411]

Any chance that even if a developer DOES NOT patch anything on an old game, it will perform better simply because of the better GPU and overclocked CPU? Fallout 4 looking at you....

Games with an unlocked frame cap will benefit, like infamous Second Son or Killzone Shadow Fall.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

The leaked document suggests otherwise. Games will not benefit from anything if it's not patched.

I want confirmation of that being false or true.

 

[Zombie James]

The leaked document suggests otherwise. Games will not benefit from anything if it's not patched.

I want confirmation of that being false or true.

The leaked document is months old.

 

[Footos22]

The leaked document suggests otherwise. Games will not benefit from anything if it's not patched.

I want confirmation of that being false or true.

Course they will games with dips won't get as bad dips. Its part and parcel of an upclock. Same reason why xbox one s runs games better.

 

[Risk Breaker]

HEY HOW ABOUT THAT OTHER REMOTE PLAY DEVICE?

So funny.

The Vita has a 540p screen, so it's obvious it doesn't affect it.

 

[Inuhanyou]

That's not what it saying. Moving Forward, if a game is sub 1080p on PS4 will be 1080 on Pro, older games will need a patch.

it doesn't say anything about patches in that section though

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update.

Does this section mean that the requirement from the devkit documentation leak that all new releases after a certain point (end of September iirc) have a ps4 pro mode is still in place ?
It doesn't seem clear.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

This is my understanding: games performing suboptimally, like frame drops, will perform better. These drops will be reduced or may not be seen at all. Long loads might be shortened slightly. That's about the bulk of it.

No games will magically go from 30fps to 60fps or anything that would be considered GREATER performance.

So improved performance, yes.
Greater performance, no.

Is this accurate?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

This is my understanding: games performing suboptimally, like frame drops, will perform better. These drops will be reduced or may not be seen at all. Long loads might be shortened slightly. That's about the bulk of it.

No games will magically go from 30fps to 60fps or have greater draw distance or anything that would be considered GREATER performance.

So improved performance, yes.
Greater performance, no.

Is this accurate?

If the game has an unlocked frame rate, it might get a locked 60. And I think that might also apply for games with a dynamic resolution.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

If the game has an unlocked frame rate, it might get a locked 60. And I think that might also apply for games with a dynamic resolution.

I guess I don't know what kind of power is required to double an unlocked frame rate. It just seems so unlikely that the Pro bump would be enough to do that. But I admit I really don't know what it takes at all.