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[PAULINK]

Its really too early to make a conclusion like this. Like they said in the video, the internet was being used by people all around them too. Also I'm sure it plays with even less latency when using a direct connection to the PS4, rather than going through the router.

Is there any sort of confirmation they were going through the router? I would assume they would just skip that hassle and go directly to the ps4, in which case I don't understand why network interference would be a latency issue for one game but not the other.

 

[Skyzard]

The video makes it seem like they might not be doing it the best way but it still looked more than playable so that's a good sign. And this is only launch so expect things to be patched up in the future.

!!!

How did I miss that? I rewatched it just now - it's after it switches to a closeup of playing nfs on the vita and it lags like crap. He mentions how it doesn't lag at all and the other guy scratches his head and looks down and then quickly utters something about network issues - and they say they're using a bloody a hotel router with all the rooms doing stuff.

WUUTTTTT u muppets

 

[Skilletor]

Does the Vita do remote play at 60fps?

 

[nikos]

Looks great! Not expecting it to be perfect but it'll be really nice for some games, especially RPGs.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Looks great! Not expecting it to be perfect but it'll be really nice for some games, especially RPGs.

It will be much more functional across the board. You are seeing some taxing games running with little issues and a wonky network environment at the hotel. I can't wait to try it in my home.

 

[LiquidSolid]

They can implement it that easy and fast? so why wasnt that feature there in the first place? lol blizz

Was there a statement that I missed? From what I read the "we're looking at it" was in reference to making it a polished experience (text is possible to be read on the smaller screen, etc.) rather than "it doesn't even work right now".

 

[VanWinkle]

Does the Vita do remote play at 60fps?

That is something I wish we knew.

 

[Satchel]

Should be getting Vita on the 29th so this is nice.

Also nice that Blizzard confirmed D3 getting RP.

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

That is something I wish we knew.

i thought 720p60fps output to vita (downsampled to vitas native 544p display) was confirmed?

 

[Ray Wonder]

I'm not sold, I need to see direct connect, or a strong wifi connection. I can't deal with too much input lag considering I'll all ready be using the nubby sticks on the vita. We'll see i guess.

 

[Skyzard]

Is there any sort of confirmation they were going through the router? I would assume they would just skip that hassle and go directly to the ps4, in which case I don't understand why network interference would be a latency issue for one game but not the other.

I think they both lagged the same but it affected their FPS experience more.

One would EXPECT them to have gone through the direct connection...in which case everything is pretty worrying imo. However they specifically said they were going through the hotel's router (lol) and explained other rooms would have been using it...which is an awful way to showcase it.

 

[Glorified G]

I think they both lagged the same but it affected their FPS experience more.

One would EXPECT them to have gone through the direct connection...in which case everything is pretty worrying imo. However they specifically said they were going through the hotel's router (lol) and explained other rooms would have been using it...which is an awful way to showcase it.

This should be in the OP. Seriously, IGN. Really?

 

[Skyzard]

This should be in the OP. Seriously, IGN. Really?

I made an edit earlier but I will bold and clarify.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

I want to see off TV play, ad hoc Wii U style, without any routers involved. That's the feature I'm interested in.

 

[Artex]

Through the hotels router? Number of hotels I've been in with good network speeds: zero.

 

[Ozzykamikaze]

You might want to mention in your video that you're using a HOTEL ROUTER. Has anyone come across good internet in a hotel?

That worked fucking awesome if that is the case.

 

[DigitalOp]

This should be in the OP. Seriously, IGN. Really?

Honestly, Im glad they did it this way. I was truly more curious about Remote Play over wifi network, since direct stream wouldn't be much use to me. So for them to get a more than playable connection over hotel wifi sounds really exciting.


I wanna see how it works when the PS4 is farther away.

 

[Fusebox]

If their hotel router is anything like the ones I've used they're lucky they got a connection at all.

 

[nhlducks35]

What are we talking in terms of milliseconds of lag? 20? 50?

 

[CambriaRising]

Through the hotels router? Number of hotels I've been in with good network speeds: zero.

Yeah this. I don't know why they didn't just link to the system itself..

 

[Skyzard]

Yeah this. I don't know why they didn't just link to the system itself..

Can the PS4 do Wifi in from router and out to vita at the same time? Maybe they didn't have a LAN port...which is how you're supposed to connect it. Guess not all hotels have them. It was at a conference too so all the gaming press were in their rooms playing games and stuff.

Otherwise it makes no sense, I have no clue.

 

[Zen]

Damn, hope the BF4 latency issues are improved with time.

Doesn't like BF much due to latency, visually looks great

well, there goes remote play for me. Lag = killer

So it's laggier than the Wii U?

Yes, sadly. I don't get why, though.

Yep, call it now before the system is even out. It's already dead.

What method are they using? Vita to PS4? Vita router PS4? Vita router internet PS4?

I'm not sold, I need to see direct connect, or a strong wifi connection. I can't deal with too much input lag considering I'll all ready be using the nubby sticks on the vita. We'll see i guess.

From the OP

"EDIT - They specifically said they were going through the hotel's router (!!!) and explained other rooms would have been using the connection. "

And judging by the videos, the lag is pretty minimal under those (terrible) conditions.

 

[darkwing]

lol the hotel's router? yikes! it's like dipping into a dirty tub

 

[Tabular]

Just bought a vita partly for remote play. I heard a reviewer mention 60 fps / no lag. Looking forward to testing it in a few days and comparing to Wii U.

 

[Eusis]

From the OP

"EDIT - They specifically said they were going through the hotel's router (!!!) and explained other rooms would have been using the connection. "

And judging by the videos, the lag is pretty minimal under those (terrible) conditions.

Huh, a direct connection would be way better then, and a home connection should be nice and clear especially on a modern router.

 

[Donthizz#]

I want that Infamous poster....

 

[Nafai1123]

Why the hell wouldn't they pair it directly to the PS4?

 

[plasmawave]

Is there any sort of confirmation they were going through the router? I would assume they would just skip that hassle and go directly to the ps4, in which case I don't understand why network interference would be a latency issue for one game but not the other.

To use direct connection to the PS4, you need to plug the ethernet cable to free up the wifi. Just like adhoc party on the PS3.

 

[Skyzard]

Why the hell wouldn't they pair it directly to the PS4?

Possibly wanted to be connected online and didn't have a lan port? If so then ps4 can't do direct to vita while using wifi for its internet. They don't show that as an option in any of the guide pictures they put out.

They mentioned direct connection but don't talk about any differences - at least the guide says "lowest possible latency" with the direct connection. Which sounds pretty awesome I'm hopeful..

meh, we need more examples. not long to find out anyway, thanks US testers

To use direct connection to the PS4, you need to plug the ethernet cable to free up the wifi. Just like adhoc party on the PS3.

There you go

But they could have tried it offline. They did mention it works offline... :S

 

[kubricks]

Good God Sony just sold me a PS4!

Being a family man I just cannot use the TV for gaming, it is always being occupied by either my wife or my kids. I do have a Vita, and as great of a device it is, I missed a good few RPGs/Gundam games that are only available on console. Now that remote play seems so smooth and lag free, I can finally get back to console gaming (PS4) by my portable device (Vita)!

I can't wait!

 

[Zen]

Why the hell wouldn't they pair it directly to the PS4?

I think they might have wanted to test it under conditions that were not ideal. I mean a lot of us are hoping that some games are actually playable away from our house, and they tested it using Hotel internet during a gaming press convention, so that bodes pretty well imo.

People forget that the Gaikai stuff was spitting games to you off of servers and render farms from way outside your house and Sony is using that stuff for this (presumably right?)

 

[Gaz_RB]

Good God Sony just sold me a PS4!

Being a family man I just cannot use the TV for gaming, it is always being occupied by either my wife or my kids. I do have a Vita, and as great of a device it is, I missed a good few RPGs/Gundam games that are only available on console. Now that remote play seems so smooth and lag free, I can finally get back to console gaming (PS4) by my portable device (Vita)!

I can't wait!

Well unless you preordered one...you're gonna have to

I think they might have wanted to test it under conditions that were not ideal. I mean a lot of us are hoping that some games are actually playable away from our house, and they tested it using Hotel internet during a gaming press convention, so that bodes pretty well imo.

People forget that the Gaikai stuff was spitting games to you off of servers and render farms from way outside your house and Sony is using that stuff for this (presumably right?)

Yeah, I've used Onlive and it worked quite well on University Internet.

 

[darkwing]

Good God Sony just sold me a PS4!

Being a family man I just cannot use the TV for gaming, it is always being occupied by either my wife or my kids. I do have a Vita, and as great of a device it is, I missed a good few RPGs/Gundam games that are only available on console. Now that remote play seems so smooth and lag free, I can finally get back to console gaming (PS4) by my portable device (Vita)!

I can't wait!

be ready for some camping and hunting

 

[plasmawave]

Possibly wanted to be connected online and didn't have a lan port? If so then ps4 can't do direct to vita while using wifi for its internet. They don't show that as an option in any of the guide pictures they put out.

They mentioned direct connection but don't talk about any differences - at least the guide says "lowest possible latency" with the direct connection. Which sounds pretty awesome I'm hopeful..

meh, we need more examples. not long to find out anyway, thanks US testers



There you go

But they could have tried it offline. They did mention it works offline... :S

This is the explanation from PSblog.

Remote Play will work best when the PS Vita system is located within the same WiFi network where PS4 is connected. We also recommend that PS4 be connected to the local area network via an Ethernet cable, that a router suitable for gaming be used and that the PS Vita system be within close proximity of the WiFi access point so that the connection is free of interference.

 

[kubricks]

Well unless you preordered one...you're gonna have to

Well, I gave up console gaming for a few years already due to my kids, waiting for a few more months to get a PS4 is nothing in comparison.

I thought I am never going back to gaming again, now there is hope, lol.

 

[darkwing]

This is the explanation from PSblog.

Remote Play will work best when the PS Vita system is located within the same WiFi network where PS4 is connected. We also recommend that PS4 be connected to the local area network via an Ethernet cable, that a router suitable for gaming be used and that the PS Vita system be within close proximity of the WiFi access point so that the connection is free of interference.

what is an example of a router suitable for gaming? my router is like 10 years old lol

 

[Gaz_RB]

How far is the radius for non wi fi PS4>vita connection? Have they said?

Well, I gave up console gaming for a few years already due to my kids, waiting for a few more months to get a PS4 is nothing in comparison.

I thought I am never going back to gaming again, now there is hope, lol.

Welcome back! I know that feeling. Luckily I already had a PS4 preordered, and this remote play stuff has only persuaded me to get a vita, which are much easier to find haha.

 

[plasmawave]

what is an example of a router suitable for gaming? my router is like 10 years old lol

https://twitter.com/yosp/status/396031186675318784

 

[Skyzard]

https://twitter.com/yosp/status/396031186675318784

He may want to use it outside of the range of a direct connection but it's nice Yoshida confirms it works even if the router is down (so IGN should have really told us how it compared offline!). Thanks to VanWinkle for asking the tough questions

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Wow. Best news is the instant quick sync. I hope all devs will use this down the line.

 

[hillsighed]

So glad I already have a Vita. I'm expecting big things from the Remote Play.

 

[plasmawave]

He may want to use it outside of the range of a direct connection but it's nice Yoshida confirms it works even if the router is down (so IGN should have really told us how it compared offline!). Thanks to VanWinkle for asking the tough questions

I just tried with my PSP and you can totally remote play with that without using any internet or wifi connection.
You just need to register your PSP in the remote play settings.


EDIT: playing Einhander using remote play NAO!

 

[darkwing]

He may want to use it outside of the range of a direct connection but it's nice Yoshida confirms it works even if the router is down (so IGN should have really told us how it compared offline!). Thanks to VanWinkle for asking the tough questions

yup, for out of range, does remote play take advantage of the wifi-n?

 

[Skyzard]

yup, for out of range, does remote play take advantage of the wifi-n?

You'd assume so since both PS4 and Vita support it.

I just tried with my PSP and you can totally remote play with that without using any internet or wifi connection.
You just need to register your PSP in the remote play settings.


EDIT: playing Einhander using remote play NAO!

Jealous. It runs okay?

 

[hillsighed]

I just tried with my PSP and you can totally remote play with that without using any internet or wifi connection.
You just need to register your PSP in the remote play settings.


EDIT: playing Einhander using remote play NAO!

I've only ever played one game using PSP's remote play (Pixeljunk Monsters) and it looked, and played like shit. It made me never use that feature again.

 

[plasmawave]

Yes, it does run like shit.
But it's kinda awesome at the same time.

The lag won't matter if you're playing turn based RPGs I bet.

Can't wait for the PS4 - Vita remote play. It will be glorious!

 

[Absinthe]

The fact that it ran this good on a crap hotel wifi makes me very happy.

I wonder why Sony didn't connect it directly to the PS4 instead of using the router?

 

[Skyzard]

The fact that it ran this good on a crap hotel wifi makes me very happy.

I wonder why Sony didn't connect it directly to the PS4 instead of using the router?

Because it was IGN and they couldn't be bothered to show us what it was like with direct connection as well (they would likely also have to go offline in their situation being in a hotel).

They wouldn't have had to usually but considering they were using a hotel router...they should have.

 

[Flek]

remote play is a day 1 thing right?

 

[darkwing]

remote play is a day 1 thing right?

yes