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[Callibretto]

If the remote play setup is similar with ps3 remote play, then I'm not sure there's a way to specically choose direct connection instead of connect through router. This is something I've been questioning for a while.

If you go to ps website and see the remote play section for ps3. You'll see you can use remote play directly between ps3 and vita/psp or through an access point with router. But the instruction to do them is the same. In your vita, choose remote play and you have option to either pick 'private network' or 'internet'. The instruction for using direct connection or router connection is the same, you have to pick 'private network' option. I'm not sure how ps3 or vita really differentiate between direct connection or router.

I only realize that ps3 remote play can use direct connection to vita is when I deliberately disconnect my lan cable from ps3 and disable internet, and remote play is still working.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

Remote play sounds awesome. What're the chances of a Vita going on sale during Black Friday?

 

[DoctorZ]

If the remote play setup is similar with ps3 remote play, then I'm not sure there's a way to specically choose direct connection instead of connect through router. This is something I've been questioning for a while.

In that IGN video they specifically say there is a direct connection option, just that the PS4 would be offline. I hope that means not using my router and directly communicating with the Vita.

 

[Skyzard]

I only realize that ps3 remote play can use direct connection to vita is when I deliberately disconnect my lan cable from ps3 and disable internet, and remote play is still working.

^ that could be it

In that IGN video they specifically say there is a direct connection option, just that the PS4 would be offline.

Ah yeah they did. Just lazy then...?


Come on Sony, give me a PS4 ... and a nice Sony camera ...and a Vaio and I'll sort this out.

 

[plasmawave]

If the remote play setup is similar with ps3 remote play, then I'm not sure there's a way to specically choose direct connection instead of connect through router. This is something I've been questioning for a while.

If you go to ps website and see the remote play section for ps3. You'll see you can use remote play directly between ps3 and vita/psp or through an access point with router. But the instruction to do them is the same. In your vita, choose remote play and you have option to either pick 'private network' or 'internet'. The instruction for using direct connection or router connection is the same, you have to pick 'private network' option. I'm not sure how ps3 or vita really differentiate between direct connection or router.

I only realize that ps3 remote play can use direct connection to vita is when I deliberately disconnect my lan cable from ps3 and disable internet, and remote play is still working.

It gives you the menu option to choose direct connection to your console or to the router.

 

[Callibretto]

In that IGN video they specifically say there is a direct connection option, just that the PS4 would be offline. I hope that means not using my router and directly communicating with the Vita.

Why would direct connection option make ps4 goes offline?

 

[Skyzard]

Why would direct connection option make ps4 goes offline?

In their situation being in a hotel - no lan port is probable. PS4 can't do direct remote play while connected to a router through wifi.

 

[so1337]

There's some serious stutter going on in that NFS video. They conveniently cut away from the close-up whenever it happens but it very visibly happens. I'm going to assume this feature is going to fucking busted if they can't even even get it to work properly at a tightly controlled demo event.

 

[Nikodemos]

tightly controlled demo event.

It ain't "tightly controlled". It's your average hotel WiFi (i.e. shit).

 

[Callibretto]

There's some serious stutter going on in that NFS video. They conveniently cut away from the close-up whenever it happens but it very visibly happens. I'm going to assume this feature is going to fucking busted if they can't even even get it to work properly at a tightly controlled demo event.

well apparently, this demo video is not tested in tightly controller demo situation. sounds like it's in less than ideal situation, even worse than most people will use in their home environment.

 

[DieH@rd]

In that IGN video they specifically say there is a direct connection option, just that the PS4 would be offline. I hope that means not using my router and directly communicating with the Vita.

No, when you do Direct Connection between Vita and PS4, PS4 will not be offline if you connect PS4 to Router via LAN cable.

 

[Rafy]

A new video was also uploaded on IGN five hours ago. It's only BF4 no commentary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X21AVmMzrUU

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

Since remote play are handled by ps4 os. How come bf4 have more latency than nfs? Shouldn't they all be the same?

BF4 is 60fps, NFS is 30fps.

 

[hurzelein]

So no direct Ps4 - Vita connection possible without a router? Can anybody confirm?

I would love direct connection to play in my bed. TV+bed in one room.

 

[Mokubba]

Any gifs of these videos?

 

[Simon_K]

Is it possible to play ps4 games on vita screen using dualshock4?
Any way to connect the controller to vita?

...that would be so awesome.

 

[sajj316]

So no direct Ps4 - Vita connection possible without a router? Can anybody confirm?

I would love direct connection to play in my bed. TV+bed in one room.

This is what I'd like to know for sure. It seems Yoshida did confirm that direct Vita to PS4 is possible. If the review session was configured over WIFI .. a big dope slap to Sony.

edit: I get it now .. on why

 

[Peterthumpa]

Is it possible to play ps4 games on vita screen using dualshock4?
Any way to connect the controller to vita?

...that would be so awesome.

You don't need to connect it to the Vita, since the stream is coming from the PS4 anyway. I don't think that the DualShock 4 is disabled when using the Vita, so that's probably possible.

 

[suedester]

BF4 is 60fps, NFS is 30fps.

No that isn't going to make any difference as the ps4 will send the same quality output to the vita no matter what.

 

[Interfectum]

Are you guys intentionally not reading the fact they are going through a hotel router or do you not understand just how bad hotel internet connections can be?

 

[darkwing]

Are you guys intentionally not reading the fact they are going through a hotel router or do you not understand just how bad hotel internet connections can be?

maybe they are going to 5 star hotels and such

 

[Byakuya769]

maybe they are going to 5 star hotels and such

The higher the stars the worse the internet connection in my experience.

 

[BadWolf]

A test via a hotel connection?

No thanks.

Remote play sounds awesome. What're the chances of a Vita going on sale during Black Friday?

A good chance, lots of Vita deals last year.

 

[Interfectum]

maybe they are going to 5 star hotels and such

Last expensive hotel I stayed at it took me 20-30 seconds to load up a single NeoGAF post.

Remote NeoGAF sux!!1

 

[Dragon1893]

I'm glad to see this working so well, wonder if it will do anything for the vita's sales.

 

[BigFwoosh]

Because they're all fucking idiots.
Any GAF'er would go "hey, the network is congested to fuck, I'm gonna set it to a direct-to-ps4 connection guys, like you should have".

These people get paid for this.

Maybe they want to see what it's like in a worst case scenario? Honestly the lag looks pretty damn good considering the hotel wifi. Direct connection will be godlike.

 

[Maedhros]

Are you guys intentionally not reading the fact they are going through a hotel router or do you not understand just how bad hotel internet connections can be?

That's how many people here acts in these topics. They read the OP, choose the first problem they see and declare that the said thing is shit.

 

[Suzzopher]

Does anyone know if you can play Lego Marvel in coop with Vita as the second controller?

 

[VanWinkle]

Disappointing. I'm still excited, but it won't feel like a true competitor to Wii U's Off-TV Play to me.

 

[sajj316]

Disappointing. I'm still excited, but it won't feel like a true competitor to Wii U's Off-TV Play to me.

Wait a minute .. are they 100% sure?

 

[VanWinkle]

Wait a minute .. are they 100% sure?

I'd hope they know, lol. They made Resogun and posted a picture of themselves playing it.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Is there a reason they opted to use the Router?

Cant remote play be done through a Direct Ad Hoc connection Between Vita-PS4?

 

[sajj316]

I'd hope they know, lol. They made Resogun and posted a picture of themselves playing it.

Crossing fingers that it will be adjusted with a future update similar to nvidia shield!

 

[PotionBleue]

Wait a minute .. are they 100% sure?

It's just annoying at this point, everybody contradicts each other. Can't wait for actual tests by players since IGN cannot even test properly.

 

[SnakeXs]

Big let down. Here's to hoping it's either incorrect (somehow doubt it with the pros at Housemarque), or is updated.

 

[flippedb]

Disappointing. I'm still excited, but it won't feel like a true competitor to Wii U's Off-TV Play to me.

This really kills the feature. Too bad.

 

[Gaz_RB]

Damn, I thought it was 60fps

 

[Varth]

"Current cap" makes it sound like something they're working on.

Maybe they want to see what it's like in a worst case scenario? Honestly the lag looks pretty damn good considering the hotel wifi. Direct connection will be godlike.

Unlikely. Easily some sort of pratical issue with the setup.

 

[BadWolf]

"Current cap" makes it sound like something they're working on.

Yeah, they might just want the feature to work properly at launch.

If everything is done hardware side on the PS4 then I don't see why the cap won't be lifted later.

 

[johnny956]

This is the explanation from PSblog.

Remote Play will work best when the PS Vita system is located within the same WiFi network where PS4 is connected. We also recommend that PS4 be connected to the local area network via an Ethernet cable, that a router suitable for gaming be used and that the PS Vita system be within close proximity of the WiFi access point so that the connection is free of interference.

I'm curious how much is "large upload". I have a 4mbps upload at home (if only charter would increase their upload speeds) and a 6mbps download at work so I'll find out Monday the 18th how it works with killzone

 

[newsguy]

This is the first I'm hearing of a 30fps cap. If true, it makes this feature way less appealing. For those who own a Vita, great, but for those buying one exclusively for remote play, no go.

 

[The Elite]

Hotel wifi is shit. Not a good way to preview this feature.

 

[Amused]

Blizzard looking into four player remote play for Diablo 3 on PS4

 

[GANGSTERKILLER]

Disappointing. I'm still excited, but it won't feel like a true competitor to Wii U's Off-TV Play to me.

Yup, that is disappointing.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

im going into remote play not expecting 1 to 1 graphical match up or on the latency front...

so hiccups are 100% acceptable to me.

 

[marc^o^]

Disappointing. I'm still excited, but it won't feel like a true competitor to Wii U's Off-TV Play to me.

Does anyone know what makes lagfree 60fps possible on Wii U and not there? Is it the wifi protocol that is used?

 

[flippedb]

Does anyone know what makes lagfree 60fps possible on Wii U and not there? Is it the wifi protocol that is used?

This test was using the router from the hotel, which adds extra lag. But anyway, I don't expect PS4-Vita to be as good as Wii U. Wii U communicates with the GamePad directly and can still remain connected to the internet via WiFi, you don't need any extra cables. On PS4's case, this direct connection is simply not there, and for you to be able to connect your Vita directly to PS4, you'd lose the ability to connect the console to internet via WiFi.

This obviously puts Wii U a step forward when it comes to Off-TV play, and that's if you don't count the inability Sony has to play 60 FPS games with Off-TV, or the fact that you need an extra $200 handheld (with pretty horrible ergonomics compared to a real controller) on top of PS4's $400 tag to play Off-TV with Sony.

Sony's option is ok, but doesn't touch Nintedo's.

 

[Ran rp]

In their situation being in a hotel - no lan port is probable. PS4 can't do direct remote play while connected to a router through wifi.

Huh, why? The PS3 can do it. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

 

[dallow_bg]

Huh, why? The PS3 can do it. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

That's remote play via local network.
Not direct.

 

[Ran rp]

That's remote play via local network.
Not direct.

Wasn't there an option to choose between direct and local?