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PS5 Exploit: Fail0verflow show decrypted PS5 firmware files

MaKTaiL

Member
So are they turning it in to Sony or are they going to release it?
I seriously hope they turn it to Sony for some profit like last time on PS4. I would hate to see this become the end of PS5 (some PS4 online games were flooded with hackers by the time piracy was widely available).
 

ParaSeoul

Member
Go to ResetERA bruh.

We KNOW piracy isn't encouraged here, thanks. We've been here long enough.

The technical aspect of console hacking is super interesting, and we are talking about it. We aren't posting links to Piratebay.
Then you'd remember the Metroid Dread Kotaku thread and how many heavy handed warnings and bans were issued over that.
 
I seriously hope they turn it to Sony for some profit like last time on PS4. I would hate to see this become the end of PS5 (some PS4 online games were flooded with hackers by the time piracy was widely available).

Don’t get me wrong on this but how would this become the end of PS5? After all, we know all Sony will release a system stability update that will patch the exploit/vulnerability.

Only those people whose PS5 stay at the vulnerable fw version would be capable to mod their systems, which at the current rate of releasing incremental updates and the shortage of consoles wouldn’t hurt Sony much more than it would have with the PS4 exploit
 
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MaKTaiL

Member
Don’t get me wrong on this but how would this become the end of PS5? After all, we know all Sony will release a system stability update that will patch the exploit/vulnerability.

Only those people whose PS5 stay at the vulnerable fw version would be capable to mod their systems, which at the current rate of releasing incremental updates and the shortage of consoles wouldn’t hurt Sony much more than it would have with the PS4 exploit
From what I've seen during the PS4 days was that once it is hacked ike that it's pretty easy for them to bypass basically any firmware that comes after. I hope I'm wrong though.
 
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Shmunter

Gold Member
A hacked PS5 would be quite the potent pc however, a cut price one at that.

I’d grab a PS5 to mod with something like this, why not.
 

Fredrik

Gold Member
What is the benefit of a jailbroken console in this day and age? So many games now require an online connection. The moment that console connects to the PSN, the ban hammer is going to be unleashed on it.
Xbox Series isn’t hacked but you’ve been able to run Retroarch on it for awhile now and it’s absolutely awesome. PS5 could be even better if a higher clock is better than a higher CU count for emulation.
No idea about bans, if it’s cracked wide open maybe they can cover their tracks? How has things been on other consoles? Switch?
 

Shmunter

Gold Member
Xbox Series isn’t hacked but you’ve been able to run Retroarch on it for awhile now and it’s absolutely awesome. PS5 could be even better if a higher clock is better than a higher CU count for emulation.
No idea about bans, if it’s cracked wide open maybe they can cover their tracks? How has things been on other consoles? Switch?
I assume, if you don’t run it as a “PS5” there would be no call home to verify system integrity and ban. I’d be happy to,use it as a windows/Linux home brew only system, and have another PS5 for PS5 things.
 

DonJuanSchlong

Spice Spice Baby
Hacking Rocco Botte GIF by Mega64


I am still amazed how they are able to hack these things.
The Flow is genius
Go with the Flow, bro

 
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Patrick S.

Amiga Forever
Then you'd remember the Metroid Dread Kotaku thread and how many heavy handed warnings and bans were issued over that.
I haven't read that thead, no. And if people are really getting banned for merely discussing technical aspects of hardware exploits etc., I find that a bit disappointig, to be honest. We aren't children, and I think that as long as you don't link the ultimate noob guide for hacking your Nintendo Switch those discussions should be fine. And even if you did that, what would that really change, when nowadays all that info is only a google or reddit search away?

Edit: I would like to read that Metroid thread. Could you link it please?
 
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Esppiral

Member
Seems like with the horsepower of the new consoles the home brew possibilities should be awesome. I’m not interested in piracy, but you’d think emulators could be able to run even more recent consoles accurately at full speed…

In any case, I guess we’ll have to wait and see about any exploits making it into the wild and how fool proof they are
If emulation is what you want, there is a console for you, it's called Xbox Series X, no kidding, RetroArch runs like a Dream on it.
 

Thaedolus

Gold Member
If emulation is what you want, there is a console for you, it's called Xbox Series X, no kidding, RetroArch runs like a Dream on it.
True, but I’m not really in the market for another console when I have a PC with gamepass. And yes, I know about PC emulation.
 

Mabdia

Member
Seems like with the horsepower of the new consoles the home brew possibilities should be awesome. I’m not interested in piracy, but you’d think emulators could be able to run even more recent consoles accurately at full speed…

In any case, I guess we’ll have to wait and see about any exploits making it into the wild and how fool proof they are
Can you imagine your PS5 running your PS3 library?
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
From what I've seen during the PS4 days was that once it is hacked ike that it's pretty easy for them to bypass basically any firmware that comes after. I hope I'm wrong though.
You might be right, but only the ones with the exploitable FW, that actually were able to hack it, would benefit from it. Tons of people will update their PS5 because they either don't care about it, or because they were unaware. And the consoles being sold after a certain date will for sure be sold with the updated firmware. That being said, I believe a HUGE minority would have access to this exploit, and the ones who appear online might get eventually banned, so it would hardly pose a serious threat to the PS5 ecosystem as a whole.
 
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jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
So what you're saying is: "Now's the time to disconnect the internet from your PS5, if you care about such things". Got it.
 

ParaSeoul

Member
I haven't read that thead, no. And if people are really getting banned for merely discussing technical aspects of hardware exploits etc., I find that a bit disappointig, to be honest. We aren't children, and I think that as long as you don't link the ultimate noob guide for hacking your Nintendo Switch those discussions should be fine. And even if you did that, what would that really change, when nowadays all that info is only a google or reddit search away?

Edit: I would like to read that Metroid thread. Could you link it please?
Should come up if you search,not taking any chances by linking it. Most of the replies have probably been deleted though.
 
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Palliasso

Requiescat In Pace
Staff Member
I haven't read that thead, no. And if people are really getting banned for merely discussing technical aspects of hardware exploits etc., I find that a bit disappointig, to be honest. We aren't children, and I think that as long as you don't link the ultimate noob guide for hacking your Nintendo Switch those discussions should be fine. And even if you did that, what would that really change, when nowadays all that info is only a google or reddit search away?

Edit: I would like to read that Metroid thread. Could you link it please?
People won't get banned here for discussing the technical aspects of hardware exploits, installing alternate operating systems on their consoles, aspects of running emulation, or it's effect on the industry.

From our terms of service:
D. Emulation/Piracy

The topics of emulation and piracy in the context of the technical nature of emulators and ROM images, hardware modification technology, as well as their effect on the industry as a political topic are deemed to be generally acceptable.

Linking to pirate download sites, directions on how to get pirated software to work, reviews or impressions of pirated software, and livestreams of pirated software play are all strictly prohibited.
The Metroid Dread situation the above poster was referring to was a somewhat unique incident, because the software leaked online nearly a week before it's street date and it happened to work flawlessly with the currently available emulators. Because the only possible way people could have been playing Metroid Dread at the time was via piracy, we took a harder than usual stance against it since it ran afoul of our the "directions on how to get pirated software to work, reviews or impressions of pirated software, and livestreams of pirated software play are all strictly prohibited" rule.
 

Impotaku

Member
I haven't read that thead, no. And if people are really getting banned for merely discussing technical aspects of hardware exploits etc., I find that a bit disappointig, to be honest. We aren't children, and I think that as long as you don't link the ultimate noob guide for hacking your Nintendo Switch those discussions should be fine. And even if you did that, what would that really change, when nowadays all that info is only a google or reddit search away?

Edit: I would like to read that Metroid thread. Could you link it please?
Think it's this one...
 
I'd be most interested to see if they could throw up some CPU/GPU/Memory overlays showing resource utilization, frequency, etc across various games.
 

Dream-Knife

Member
If you can't put your own software on a machine, you don't actually own it. There is nothing wrong with "hacking" a console. You should be offended you need to do this to gain basic functionality.
Those were something back in the day, but is there anybody that is whiling to play 100% offline all the time nowadays?
If you only own it for single player I guess.
This was quite fast. I thought that something like this should be almost impossible because of the use of freebsd (or whatever they were using). Seems like they forgot some patches or something like this.


As a PC, without the right drivers, the GPU is quite useless and I don't think that AMD will release some kind of compatible driver (e.g. for linux if it runs at some point on a cracked ps5).
Why would freebsd be uncrackable?

AMDGPU might work.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
If Sony just patches up the exploit fast so hackers have to start from square one again is it really that harmful? Even if hackers hurry up and make it so gamers can play pirated games, a security patch nullifies that.

The old days with no patches were different.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
you can thank me later :D
I skimmed through a couple random parts just to see the format of the video and see guys talking about shit with recap charts. I'll check it out after dinner. Will be a cool video to have on the side as I surf the net. 50 min too.

Thanks!
 

Patrick S.

Amiga Forever
People won't get banned here for discussing the technical aspects of hardware exploits, installing alternate operating systems on their consoles, aspects of running emulation, or it's effect on the industry.

From our terms of service:

The Metroid Dread situation the above poster was referring to was a somewhat unique incident, because the software leaked online nearly a week before it's street date and it happened to work flawlessly with the currently available emulators. Because the only possible way people could have been playing Metroid Dread at the time was via piracy, we took a harder than usual stance against it since it ran afoul of our the "directions on how to get pirated software to work, reviews or impressions of pirated software, and livestreams of pirated software play are all strictly prohibited" rule.
Thanks for the feedback ;)
 

MachRc

Member
Fail0verf0w never released their stuff even when they got code running early days on the switch.

It took many other groups to go from browser exploit to NAND, w/ software hijinks via RCM and brute force without RCM.
Its a first step but dont expect anything to be blown open any time soon.
 

FStubbs

Member
What is the benefit of a jailbroken console in this day and age? So many games now require an online connection. The moment that console connects to the PSN, the ban hammer is going to be unleashed on it.
Also, I remember geohotz or whoever it was saying that modern consoles are basically commodity hardware instead of the exotic architectures they used to have. IIRC he said something like "what's the point of jailbreaking a PS4 when I can go to Best buy and pick up similar hardware?"
 

Ozriel

Member
Xbox Series isn’t hacked but you’ve been able to run Retroarch on it for awhile now and it’s absolutely awesome. PS5 could be even better if a higher clock is better than a higher CU count for emulation.

Most of these emus are CPU dependent. The Ps5 CPU isn’t clocked higher than the Series X CPU.
 

Faust

Perpetually Tired
Staff Member
I haven't read that thead, no. And if people are really getting banned for merely discussing technical aspects of hardware exploits etc., I find that a bit disappointig, to be honest. We aren't children, and I think that as long as you don't link the ultimate noob guide for hacking your Nintendo Switch those discussions should be fine. And even if you did that, what would that really change, when nowadays all that info is only a google or reddit search away?

Edit: I would like to read that Metroid thread. Could you link it please?

No one was banned for talking about the merits to emulation or technical aspects of hardware exploits. People were warned and removed for promoting piracy (downloading illegal roms) and linking to rom websites.
 

Patrick S.

Amiga Forever
No one was banned for talking about the merits to emulation or technical aspects of hardware exploits. People were warned and removed for promoting piracy (downloading illegal roms) and linking to rom websites.
Makes sense. Thanks ;)
 

dvdvideo

Member
turn your ps5 into a pc. for 500$ you have something like

ryzen zen2 8 cores
Radeon RX 5700 XT
16gb gddr6 + 512mb ddr4
1gb ssd

I was thinking this exactly, what PC on the market comes close. Heck, you can't even get a GPU for $500 Canadian......
 
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