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PS5 games won't support VR, no support for at least 2 years.
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Matt_Fox
Member
RE8 is 2021 release, and there's no PS4 port so you have to presume no PSVR.
On TGS Capcom said they are trying to port the game to current gen, but no promises
You do know there isn’t a PS5 VR, right?
You don’t have to buy 2 versions of the same. Just buy the ps4 version that is compatible. You are trying to make it sound like a bigger deal than it actually is.
Well I expected Sony wouldn't release VR exclusives for PS5 until psvr2 is on the market in 2 years or so, but I really hoped they would allow patches to run in more than BC boost mode.
But I guess they could at least allow patches that could use the boost mode performance for more resolution etc.
But I guess they could at least allow patches that could use the boost mode performance for more resolution etc.
the_master
Member
This is pretty bad. Sony is a major VR player. They just abandoned it. Not making any game in the next 2 years AT LEAST, means they have no plans to release any game any year. They just cancelled VR.
I would really like to see some more AAA VR titles
I would really like to see some more AAA VR titles
If you h a VR headset, you can figure out how to read a disclaimer
Fbh
Member
Sucks. But hopefully it doesn't mean they are completely giving up on VR.
Would be a shame to see them give up now that it's finally starting to get good. The Quest 2 is a finally getting to the level of price and ease of use that could make VR more appealing. If they can release something similar for $100 less (so $199) in 2 years it could be pretty tempting.
If they aren't sure that they'll be able to port the game to last gen in Non VR it means they'd probably struggle twice as much getting it to run at a high enough framerate for VR
Would be a shame to see them give up now that it's finally starting to get good. The Quest 2 is a finally getting to the level of price and ease of use that could make VR more appealing. If they can release something similar for $100 less (so $199) in 2 years it could be pretty tempting.
If they aren't sure that they'll be able to port the game to last gen in Non VR it means they'd probably struggle twice as much getting it to run at a high enough framerate for VR
Calverz
Member
Wow i bet capcom will be pissed. VR pc only then.
Tbh i have a feeling this will be sony quietly shelving VR or are close to doing this. 5% attach rate is pretty poor tbh.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
With all the best will in the world to UploadVr... I’d like to hear something actually from Sony about this...
You‘ve all decided this is fact before hearing anything from the horse’s mouth.
You‘ve all decided this is fact before hearing anything from the horse’s mouth.
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ABnormal
Member
That 5% was (or is) the largest vr market share, and they celebrated that fact some time ago. So, they are clearly not seeing it as a bad start.
Incidentally, that was more or less the % I thought would have been reached (just imagining how many buyers uot of the total number would be at the same time hardcore gamers, interested on vr, with enough money, and willing to buy it even with all the initial barriers like bulky headset, cables, motion sickness, etc.
Tschumi
Member
I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time believing anyone is exclusively a vr player.
This is a bit of a weird one though. Bummer.
It seems like there just so preoccupied with emphasising games that work well with the SSD, etc, that they just can't even with other big selling points like BC she vr.
Is this going to make me go Xbox? Nope~
This is a bit of a weird one though. Bummer.
It seems like there just so preoccupied with emphasising games that work well with the SSD, etc, that they just can't even with other big selling points like BC she vr.
Is this going to make me go Xbox? Nope~
Romulus
Member
Barriers like this are subjective though, for instance I don't consider myself a major VR enthusiast like you but I really like it alot. Having said that I play almost daily.
ABnormal
Member
Well, it's true that the primary barrier for me is the motion sickness. I'm quite sure that if I would get rid of it, I would play often, regardless of the other "barriers". It's already stunning even at this infant state.
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schaft0620
Member
I reported on Resident Evil a while back. Not great.
lordsofgaming.net
It Appears Resident Evil: Village PSVR Support Is Dead - Lords of Gaming
The new PlayStation Store has launched and it doesn't bode well for thoes looking to play Resident Evil: Village on PSVR.
lordsofgaming.net
Nah. Quest 2 already does that and sales are through the roof. VR will be mainstream within 2 years.
Reallink
Member
Honestly, no one should be buying PSVR at this point even if PS5 games did support it. It was a comparatively poor product when it launched nearly half a decade ago, it's straight up terrible by today's standards. I can see why they wouldn't want to taint the PS5 brand by encouraging people to buy a crappy product. It's an unpopular decision, but the right one. The only problem is that PSVR2 is apparently at least 2 years away. I presume they're holding out for a bulletproof wireless solution that's cheap enough to embed in $299-$399 headset.
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D
Deleted member 740922
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You're kidding, right? You're like the Voost Kain of VR on here. Or should that be VRoost Kain?
Always wading into threads telling people exactly how wrong they are about VR and "just you wait!" etc.
TheMay30thMan
Member
So RE8 won’t have PSVR support? Ouch. That one really hurts.
N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
As much as it pains me I think you are right.
The technology is there but I doubt the price point is.
I can wait for a decent PSVR2 product. I just hope that there absolutely is one.
In the mean time, why can’t publishers revisit past products and add VR?
Alien Isolation
Bioshock games
Killzone
....to name but a tiny few.
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Lort
Banned
its ps5 games, wont support VR not .. ps5, games wont support VR
Pantz
Member
The title is fine, you can't play PS5 games on the PSVR. That means they won't be making any VR games specifically taking full advantage of the PS5 until the PSVR2 comes out. It's odd because VR headsets should just be like any other display. A PS5 VR game wouldn't display any better on the PSVR but they could still take advantage of the hardware to make the games bigger and better. As far as I know the original Oculus Rift can still play the latest PCVR games so that's why this is kind of annoying to me.
It's just weird that there's going to be a 2 year? gap where if developers want to make stuff for the PSVR, they have to design their games for the retired console and not the current console.
From the vr lives side ladies and gentlemen
Reallink
Member
Move's deficiencies coupled with PSVR's lack of awareness of the players floor, height, or playspace makes porting many experiences difficult, impossible, or compromised. That's what differentiates it from simply being a display, it's not just graphical horsepower that's lacking. PSVR was primarily designed as a seated controller experience, Move was simply a "free" add-on (for both Sony and many consumers) by virtue of already existing. It doesn't work well (or at all) for what developers are doing today, and as I mentioned above, Sony likely doesn't want to damage the brand by allowing developers to shoehorn inferior experiences for extra sales, nor do they want new PS5 owners buying outdated hardware that looks like a joke next to a $299 Quest 2.
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BlitzerRadic
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How would a PS5 game that supports PSVR even work? PS5 games only work with Dual Sense and don't you need DS4 for PSVR?
Also VR devs could still use all of PS5's power by making PS4 VR games that run in native mode on PS5.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
This is a confusing decision. It might simplify their life in bringing the console up but generates confusion taking the hardcore user base a bit for granted.
Why do we need the old camera? Why cannot the new one be used for it? It seems like a very very similar stereoscopic design a d likely will be needed for PSVR2 (or maybe not, but oh well what are their plans there?!?)... why native PS5 titles cannot use the old PSVR?
I actually like PSVR titles and was looking forward to the graphics taken a notch or two above in terms of fidelity (there is a lot that can be improved in Skyrim VR or NMS before needing a higher resolution VR headset).
Do I need two versions of NMS? Can I have two versions of NMS installed? How much benefit do I get for NMS installed on PS5 vs the native NMS PS5 version? Shall I just keep playing it on PS4 Pro?
Why do we need the old camera? Why cannot the new one be used for it? It seems like a very very similar stereoscopic design a d likely will be needed for PSVR2 (or maybe not, but oh well what are their plans there?!?)... why native PS5 titles cannot use the old PSVR?
I actually like PSVR titles and was looking forward to the graphics taken a notch or two above in terms of fidelity (there is a lot that can be improved in Skyrim VR or NMS before needing a higher resolution VR headset).
Do I need two versions of NMS? Can I have two versions of NMS installed? How much benefit do I get for NMS installed on PS5 vs the native NMS PS5 version? Shall I just keep playing it on PS4 Pro?
Pantz
Member
Don't know, it would have been up to them to make it compatible. It doesn't seem impossible but maybe it was too much work or not worth the cost.
Romulus
Member
You're kidding, right? You're like the Voost Kain of VR on here. Or should that be VRoost Kain?
Always wading into threads telling people exactly how wrong they are about VR and "just you wait!" etc.
You purposely cut the rest of my post off where I explained myself. I was comparing myself to a self proclaimed VR enthusiast and outrighted said that I "really like VR alot." And I do. I typed that but you cut it off to make your little response work.
But I actually play alot of normal games in phases and don't even think VR is going mainstream like many. I just think its here to stay, forever. Also, I just got pcvr as many know, hardly a major enthusiast. The only thing you've got right is "he goes into VR threads." True. Gaming forum + I like VR.
No one else quoted me on this for a reason, the same reason your post got zero likes.
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N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
This does indeed feel like a missed opportunity. Why not just integrate tracking into the new PS5 camera.Since these are of a higher resolution, it may have indeed improved tracking. Why not mandate that devs use the highest resolution and patch their previous games the PSVR headset can support, as it’s well known that many games aren’t supporting highest resolution nor supporting supersampling.
We could have at least had a better experience with the current crop of PSVR titles.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Yes, it is really head scratching bad decision... not the worst one they could have made, but between the lack of HDR pass through in the v1 edition and this... man...
...N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
Oh man!! I was miffed about that HDR pass through. Did Sony not talk to Sony? I mean come on!Yes, it is really head scratching bad decision... not the worst one they could have made, but between the lack of HDR pass through in the v1 edition and this... man...
I ended up buying a cheap 2 in 1 out switcher that solves this problem.
I’m happy to hold out for a wireless PSVR2. I just hope there is one, and PSVR1 gets plenty of content and patches to past games for better experiences.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Yeah did that before (hopefully not) damaging an AVR input (switching cables near the PS4 Pro end though). Maddening decision and given how shortly after they fixed it... it was a “bah, early adopters will take the hit” kind of decision.
Kokoloko85
Member
Ill be getting PS Vr 2 lol
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Ps5 will play all Ps4 PSVR games, but no Ps5 games are being made for PSVR 1.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
VRs biggest strength is the fact that it greatly lowers the skill floor for a much bigger potential audience of gamers.
You can't reasonably expect a non gamer to be given a controller and have fun with Rainbow Six Siege.
You CAN reasonably expect a non gamer to be given VR and have fun with Firewall: Zero Hour.
VR just needs to be a little cheaper, a little better, and have a killer mainstream app.
You can't reasonably expect a non gamer to be given a controller and have fun with Rainbow Six Siege.
You CAN reasonably expect a non gamer to be given VR and have fun with Firewall: Zero Hour.
VR just needs to be a little cheaper, a little better, and have a killer mainstream app.
Romulus
Member
It's the looking and turning at the same time. It's more natural in VR because you look with your head, eliminating half of the unnatural input on the dual analog configuration for example. I've seen several non gamers be able to instantly pick up and play more "hardcore" games.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Heads up in case you have these two PSVR games. They don't work on PS5.
www.roadtovr.com
The library will show which of your PS4 games are compatible with your PS5; if a game isn’t compatible, you’ll see a ‘stop’ symbol (). Of 34 digital PSVR games in my library, only two weren’t compatible (Robinson: The Journey [2016] and Golem [2019]).
PSVR on PS5 Review – Much Faster Loading, Same Old PlayStation VR
With PS5 just days away from launch you may be wondering how PSVR will fare on the new console. We’re here to share our experience over the last few weeks of testing PSVR on PS5. PS5 will bring full support for PSVR thanks to backwards compatibility with existing PS4 titles made for the headset...
www.roadtovr.com
The library will show which of your PS4 games are compatible with your PS5; if a game isn’t compatible, you’ll see a ‘stop’ symbol (). Of 34 digital PSVR games in my library, only two weren’t compatible (Robinson: The Journey [2016] and Golem [2019]).
Shmunter
Member
Damn, Robinson in my backlogHeads up in case you have these two PSVR games. They don't work on PS5.
PSVR on PS5 Review – Much Faster Loading, Same Old PlayStation VR
With PS5 just days away from launch you may be wondering how PSVR will fare on the new console. We’re here to share our experience over the last few weeks of testing PSVR on PS5. PS5 will bring full support for PSVR thanks to backwards compatibility with existing PS4 titles made for the headset...
The library will show which of your PS4 games are compatible with your PS5; if a game isn’t compatible, you’ll see a ‘stop’ symbol (). Of 34 digital PSVR games in my library, only two weren’t compatible (Robinson: The Journey [2016] and Golem [2019]).
adamosmaki
Member
that's ok. according to sony fanboys Sony can do no wrong and psvr was a great success and better than other vr solutions
Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
You bumped a thread that ended up being wrong
yurinka
Member
They didn't abandon VR. Devs will continue making PS4 PSVR games, and they will be playable on PS5 too. Sony also said they will continue supporting the PS4 for at least 2 or 3 years more. In fact all previous PS4 PSVR games run in PS5 with a couple of them as exception.
Sony basically confirmed that they are working on PSVR2 for PS5 but won't be released in the next couple of years, and that PS5 native games will use PSVR2 instead of PSVR1. So no PS5 native VR games for the next couple of years.
Until then it's fair to assume Sony will focus on boosting the PS5 launch window while also helping the PS4 with its last games and maybe some price cut. In 2-3 years from now, once PS5 achieved a great userbase and PS4 sales will be almost zero, it will be time to discontinue PS4 and PSVR and to release PSVR2 and PS5 VR games.
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Kev Kev
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