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[yogaflame]

PS5 may have its best hardware sales of the Generation if GTA 6 comes out in November

Hopefully a slim Ps5 and Ps5 pro bundle. And a Ps5 with GTA6 themed cover and dual sense controller.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

Good numbers for Sony. Nice to see the 2 major players this healthy

Xbox problems = industry wide problems

 

[GHG]

shittiest Ps console!
actually the 1st one I sold so fast
I still have my Fat ps3

Say this 5 times while standing in front of a mirror and Jim Ryan will appear.

 

[squallbr]

Xbox problems = industry wide problems

Xbox problems =

 

[Cyborg]

Profit on PS5 is amazing

 

[squallbr]

Profit on PS5 is amazing

Playstation Division, saving SonyCorp

 

[PeteBull]

Worst first party line-up of any Playataion generation excluding the Vita? Maybe.

Record profits on the backs of sbuscriptions, microtransaction and digital sales. Xbox crumbles (for now) they don't even have to try right.

Lack of hardware discounts and reduced prices.

Increase in game prices overall and digital versions cost the same as physical versions, somtimes more. Like WTF?

Absolutely terrible for gaming and gamers going forward. It's not arrogant Sony, it's just plain fat-thor Sony.

Thats what happens when instead of chad xbox team from og xbox and 360 days we get the cuckhold xbox version w/o any exclusives(coz every1 is day1 on pc) who is porting or even puts his former console exclusives day1 on playstation.
Its like suddenly all the other guys u normally compete for women would suddenly get 1feet shorter, 100lbs of fat heavier and literally gay.

Thats today's xbox platform looking at core gamers(so guys like us who want/are spending on gaming most):

Modern xbox team/xbox consoles are like those neutered cats, they are unsure of themselfs, got no idea whats happening and have aversion for gaming audience.
In comparision ps5 isnt anything special, but at least it still is proper console after all...

And let me rant about ninny, last time i loved nintendo hardware was GameCube days, after that holidays 2006 and onwards with wii launch(which only eat around 14W of power while sony/ms competitors were at 80W+ powerdraw), was basically switch just no portability- ninny opted out of console hardware arms race already back then

 

[PeteBull]

If a big company like xbox is exiting the market, pretty sure its doomed.

Maybe not immediately, but not healthy, for sure.

Big company like xbox(microsoft actually) exited cellphone business years ago too, and we know how it worked out.
If MS exits AI does it mean suddenly AI isnt the future? Nope, it just means they made yet another stoopid decision

 

[GHG]

Life always comes at these people fast:

 

[J Required]

Life always comes at these people fast:

Should have tagged his ass. Lol

 

[Skifi28]

Life always comes at these people fast:

Give them a break, it's the last thing they have to hold on to. Well, had.

 

[PeteBull]

It seems Sony is well prepared for 2026 and component shortages

Sony looking at its memory reserves:

 

[GHG]

Should have tagged his ass. Lol

T Tobimacoss come and sell us on some xcloud my friend.

You know we can't wait for today's sales pitch.

 

[Caio]

Well we're already here:

Operating Income

PS5 ~ $15.5B

PS4 $9B

PS1 $3B

PS2 $2B

PS3 -$4B


Combined the PS1, PS2 and PS4 would be 14 billion, and then the PS3 drags that down to 10 billion. Even if we ignore the PS3, the PS5 is already ahead of every PlayStation home console combined. We'd just need PSP and Vita OI figures to factor them into the equation to see if it's ahead of the entire pack.

By the end of 2026, PS5 will very clearly be ahead of all other PlayStation platforms combined, including PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4. Even after factoring in PSP and PS Vita, the gap is set to widen further. With an extended life cycle, a delayed PS6, and a powerful 2026 line-up led by GTA 6, PS5's operating income trajectory makes the outcome effectively inevitable.

 

[yogaflame]

Playstation Division, saving SonyCorp

Its just sad that the legendary Sony TV had fallen. China TCL now owns 52% of Sony TV. Sony TV is now a temu, will become a low quality TV. I had a bad experience with TCL Tv which was gifted to me. Quality and tech is really bad. Avoid TCL. Just buy LG or Samsung TV.

 

[Area61]

Safe to say PS5 will outsell PS4 at ease. And after GTA6 release, PS5 will sell like hotcakes and might even top PS2 sales.

 

[TheMule1983]

Good on Sony. Wish they'd give me a reason to rebuy a PS5 though.

Can still get the Black Friday Fortnite bundles on online retailers though for 100 bucks off. Must not have sold what they wanted.

 

[gerth666]

Exactly, I am talking about SALES in a market with comparable products in a sales thread while others, like yourself are talking about the competition for our time which incorporates every action a person does within their waking ours of a day.

That is a completely different conversation.

That competition for for your time is the most important I think.
If for example in your limited time you choose to game on a switch and not a playstation that's money lost for Sony, and money gained for Nintendo.

And to your point that because Xbox has collapsed that automatically means all these users should equal more playstation sales just doesn't sit right for me.
It assumes people only buy one console and not multiple.
Personal e.g here, I play on playstation, I've always been a playstation first guy. But I've always also bought an Xbox every gen until this one.
Now think about that the other way.
How many millions of Xbox gamers already have a playstation.

Point Im getting at is just because one console only sells 30m or so doesn't mean the other 20m automatically go to playstation

 

[PeteBull]

Good on Sony. Wish they'd give me a reason to rebuy a PS5 though.

Can still get the Black Friday Fortnite bundles on online retailers though for 100 bucks off. Must not have sold what they wanted.

Just do what i will do bro, assuming ps6 is backwards compatible and got some enhanced/pro above pro mode just get ps6 on launch and u will enjoy all ps5 exclusives on top of ps6 games, that way we can painlessly skip ps5/ps5pr0 gen and enjoy all the goodies in 2027/2028 latest

 

[TheMule1983]

Just do what i will do bro, assuming ps6 is backwards compatible and got some enhanced/pro above pro mode just get ps6 on launch and u will enjoy all ps5 exclusives on top of ps6 games, that way we can painlessly skip ps5/ps5pr0 gen and enjoy all the goodies in 2027/2028 latest

That's been my plan. If they can give me a reason to buy it that is.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Big company like xbox(microsoft actually) exited cellphone business years ago too, and we know how it worked out.
If MS exits AI does it mean suddenly AI isnt the future? Nope, it just means they made yet another stoopid decision

Exiting smartphone business was an extremely smart move.

There is a windows version that works on ARM now. Not far when we will start seeing full on Windows on smartphones. Chips are getting there.

Why keep two OS and fight a war on 2 fronts when you can have just single OS to fight both?

That Windows phone business would have been a money sink. They would not be doing anything good if it was still around.

 

[Skifi28]

Exiting smartphone business was an extremely smart move.

There is a windows version that works on ARM now. Not far when we will start seeing full on Windows on smartphones. Chips are getting there.

Why keep two OS and fight a war on 2 fronts when you can have just single OS to fight both?

That Windows phone business would have been a money sink. They would not be doing anything good if it was still around.

 

[Horseganador]

Playstation's numbers are so good that there's little or nothing negative to say. I see that today those posting memes and gifs about sales are having wifi problems, predictable.

 

[BlackTron]

Exiting smartphone business was an extremely smart move.

There is a windows version that works on ARM now. Not far when we will start seeing full on Windows on smartphones. Chips are getting there.

Why keep two OS and fight a war on 2 fronts when you can have just single OS to fight both?

That Windows phone business would have been a money sink. They would not be doing anything good if it was still around.

So you're saying that when something is a money sink, it's in their best interests to move on.

Interesting.

 

[SpokkX]

The worst playstation breaking profit records

Is this really because they lack competition anymore? Xbox is dead and Nintendo targets a different market

 

[DenchDeckard]

Why do you need to discount them to check the reach? Lol

Great point. You just compare a quarter where there is no discounts and see how they sell comparably if you want.

I think you're looking at this wrong the discounts were not that strong relative to ps4 at the same time period, Sony may have lost a little on hardware but they saw increases in software sales, accessories, subs & micro transactions by selling more PlayStation 5 during the quarter.
PlayStation will want the biggest userbase by the time gta 6 is out & they should be well over 100 million units by then, that's where the real money is, all the software sales, ps plus subs & mtx that game will drive.
You also get the added benefit of more first party sales for the likes ghosts, wolverine, marvel tokon, saros, intergalactic with increased userbase, it's a strategy that's always worked in the console business.

Why would we compare vs the PS4 generation. People keep doing that around price but its a completely different world. Pre Covid, pre tech pricing boom and inflation! You cant compare pricing in that way, imo.

Nintendo ip have more mainstream reach but the PlayStation brand has just as much if not more global reach than Nintendo. The sales of all their consoles shows that.

Completely agree. Purely for console sales, Sony often comes close BUT we are talking brand mainstream reach. Thats where we look at IP and sales of software etc. Its not comparable.

PS5 Pro launch, actually better (!) discounts, and they literally have more competition now with a new Switch 2, as opposed to a dying Switch 1 and an already dead Xbox with zero holiday push from Microsoft (yep, it already was the case in 2024).

I dont agree with this at all, but you do you.

Sony's profit margin is low compared to other platform holders. Nintendo's operating margin is around 80% larger than Playstation's since it primarily sells its own games rather than takes a cut of marketplace sales. The quarterly results show it traded profit for a boost in sales figures to try and ride out a volatile market. I wouldn't be optimistic about 2026 if I were any of the platform holders with tarrifs and shortages pushing prices upward.

Yes, this is where we see Nintendo's reach vs Sony. Sony invests a lot more money in various ways, including discounts on hardware and software to come close to Nintendo in overall hardware sales.

 

[MisterXDTV]

"Who cares about Spain!!!"

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

The worst playstation breaking profit records

Is this really because they lack competition anymore? Xbox is dead and Nintendo targets a different market

People praise the PS3 1st party games here, But Sony was in the red the entire time with PS3. Hate to say it but sometimes profitability means less money spent to keep fans happy,

 

[Baemono]

Look at the above 2 graphs and the trend is pretty apparent that the middle years of any consoles life are when most of the sales come, the early and end years are not.

That's what I keep saying

You do know console sales are following a Bell's curve, right ?

Switch 1's best performance was during its 4th year, same with PS4, same with PS5, and probably will be the same with Switch 2

And what is also a fact: console sales follow a Bell's curve, they peak between year 3 and 5 and then go down.

 

[Topher]

There's a certain hypocrisy when you compare sales between this thread and the Switch thread.

PS5 has been under PS4 sales basically it's entire life so far yet endless praise for our Sony overlords
Switch 2 is selling better than Switch 1 and has become the fastest selling console ever, yet, somehow, Nintendo is doomed because it's "underperforming"

Ya'll need to make up your minds.

Hypocrisy? Folks are reacting what is actually stated in the financial results. Are you going to be willfully ignorant every quarter and just repeat that "fastest selling console ever" line? Up to you, I guess.

 

[Fake]

Does that mean I get more first party Japanese games form Sony?........I'm guessing not.

PS5 is a great piece of hardware, thanks to Mark.

Software... nah. Astro Bot is my only favorite game this entire generation. Third parties and BC are doing the heavy job for PS5.

 

[SpokkX]

People praise the PS3 1st party games here, But Sony was in the red the entire time with PS3. Hate to say it but sometimes profitability means less money spent to keep fans happy,

Yes sony first party has proven irrelevant

 

[MisterXDTV]

Hypocrisy? Folks are reacting what is actually stated in the financial results. Are you going to be willfully ignorant every quarter and just repeat that "fastest selling console ever" line? Up to you, I guess.

Like fastest selling means anything

They got their ass beaten in their second quarter on the market by a 5-year old console

 

[Skifi28]

"Who cares about Spain!!!"

It was always clear that while a relatively small market, it mimicked the trends of at least Europe making it a very interesting market to observe. I don't believe that the 5-6 people that constantly tried to dismiss its relevance learned their lesson though. Prepare for more deflecting In the near future.

 

[Saber]

My goodness. Well quantity of exclusives and variety and choices are not as many as ps2 or ps3 but Ps5 is really a good hardware. Just imagine if there are more variety and choices of exclusives, maybe ps5 is already at 100 mil.

I keep saying that. PS5 is a pretty good machine, the problem is their line up of games and pandering. People can still buy PS5 to play good 3rd party games, like myself.

 

[saintjules]

actually the 1st one I sold so fast
I still have my Fat ps3

 

[Ramiro_Rodriguez]

Not bad for the worst generation of PlayStation

Because of the lack of real competition.

 

[Topher]

Looks like the two million gap with PS4 remains consistent, which tells me the PS5 is doing the same or better than the PS4 in real-world terms given the environments that the PS5 has had to sell in. That's pretty impressive, considering Sony's first party's pretty lacklustre dealings.

Interesting note about the hardware losses; looks like Sony is shouldering some of the cost to keep the hardware moving. That's a solid pro-consumer move that offers Sony a bigger install base, worth highlighting.

With the PS5 not making up the ground on PS4 despite Xbox's diminished state, it's still pretty clear the console market has contracted. I'm curious if the market can continue to support the amount of hardware we're seeing, or if Xbox's next-gen console will just be outright ignored.

It would be interesting to see how many gamers are still using last gen hardware. Sony's recent promotion to try and get more people to upgrade suggests there's a sizable number still on PS4. Prices are just too high all around. I believe PS4 was $300 at this point last gen.

 

[clappedcheeks]

That competition for for your time is the most important I think.
If for example in your limited time you choose to game on a switch and not a playstation that's money lost for Sony, and money gained for Nintendo.

And to your point that because Xbox has collapsed that automatically means all these users should equal more playstation sales just doesn't sit right for me.
It assumes people only buy one console and not multiple.
Personal e.g here, I play on playstation, I've always been a playstation first guy. But I've always also bought an Xbox every gen until this one.
Now think about that the other way.
How many millions of Xbox gamers already have a playstation.

Point Im getting at is just because one console only sells 30m or so doesn't mean the other 20m automatically go to playstation

This is a more reasonable explanation than just stating the high end market is declining just because PlayStation isn't picking up the slack from Xbox. It could very well be the case that the market is shrinking but we're not at the end of the generation yet. There are plenty of people hanging on to their PS4 or Xbox one and they might make the jump eventually. PS5 could end up with a stronger tail end than its predecessor. At the end of it all I'm happy as long as someone has enough success that they are providing a means to play; and they keep investing in the market so that there's an option for us console peasants for years to come.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

Because of the lack of real competition.

Are we ignoring Nintendo?

 

[Topher]

Are we ignoring Nintendo?

Switch 2 is not direct competition for PS5 like Xbox is.

 

[Steve Holt]

Consoles aren't dying. The console industry is down and the industry as a whole is in very interesting times, it has been for the entire gen when you look at it.

I don't think I've ever said differently but I do think the high end console market is in decline.

I hope so. Maybe Apple or Valve but honestly I think most companies will now leave it to companies like Asus. Consoles are clearly dying. If consoles are going to cost 600 Dollars minimum next gen I think the market has gone.

 

[roosnam1980]

gta6 release will be great for the ps5

 

[Putonahappyface]

All that profit and the bastards wont make PS5 PRO covers.

 

[Hyper_hyper]

Switch 2 is not direct competition for PS5 like Xbox is.

Sure. :/ That is one of the biggest crap I've heard. So, why From Software Duskoblood wont be on PS5? I mean, it should be irrelevant for Nintendo to be on PS5 because PS5 isn't a competition to Switch 2. :/ Switch 2 is much bigger competitor to PS5 than Xbox is. Nintendo can easily, very easily make a deal with Capcom for next Resident Evil or Monster Hunter to be exclusive on Switch 2. And those franchises are on PS5 too. Yes, it is competitor

 

[MisterXDTV]

I don't get the "no competition" thing: the 30 millions Xbox Series on the market are still working

The no-competition excuse can start only when devs stops making games for it...

It hasn't happened yet

 

[GHG]

 

[Mr_JPF]

PS5 is a great piece of hardware, thanks to Mark.

Software... nah. Astro Bot is my only favorite game this entire generation. Third parties and BC are doing the heavy job for PS5.

The games I played the most on my fat PS5 (before I sold it two years ago) were Astro Bot, The Demon Souls remake, and the Atari Recharged games. These were also some of the only games that really took advantage of the Duel Sense's full capabilities, it's a shame that most devs have completely ignored the Duel Sense's features since it's arguably one of the main selling points of the console ( at least it was for me ).

 

[Topher]

Sure. :/ That is one of the biggest crap I've heard. So, why From Software Duskoblood wont be on PS5? I mean, it should be irrelevant for Nintendo to be on PS5 because PS5 isn't a competition to Switch 2. :/

You can call it the biggest crap you've heard if it makes you feel better, but the games that are popular on Xbox and PS are distinctively different than the games that are popular on Switch. Duskbloods doesn't change that. If/when we see Call of Duty, Madden, and those annual games rocking the top of Switch 2 then I'll change my tune. Either way, settle down. It isn't that serious.

 

[Victhemic]

I figure the following:

2026: 20 million with gta6 boost
2027: 20 million gta 6 boost still in effect
2028: 18 million
2029: 15 million

No way. Not even close. At least 28 and 29 will be much less.