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News PS5 Major September System Update

Dr.Morris79

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Audio marketing is the worst.

All these 2 channel stereo speakers with "atmos" or "surround" audio also belong in a bin.

People don't know good sound until they hear it and unfortunately most people haven't heard it.




What happend to Ricky?
 

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I think some of what you are feeling has to do with the OS being new. That doesn't mean the OS does not need improvements — it does, there are many they can still make. I think most of the newness will wear off and you will either adjust or find it (hopefully) to be better. They mentioned some improvements to the friends list area under Game Base. Anyway, I hear you. I think some of it will go away though.

I mean sure it's new but it's been almost a year now...I still find it rather painful to view friends list to see who's online or to create party chat with friends. I've definitely been more disconnected from my friends through the PS5's OS. Weather that be messaging my friends, creating party chats, seeing who's online, etc... all of these behaviors personally have dropped drastically since being on PS5.
 
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Does anybody remember this shitty article from Bloomberg?


Adding support for additional drives will be enabled with a firmware update that also unlocks higher cooling-fan speeds to ensure the console doesn’t overheat, the people said, asking not to be named because the plans are not yet public.

🤦‍♂️🤣

Installed the NVME and there's no noise and fan speed increase.

What a piece of 💩 article.
 

NeonGhost

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I'm going to be honest after playing RE8 on Xbox One X where in 4k mode it would constantly go from 60 to 40/50fps with VRR enabled, it's honestly overrated af. It's extremely nice to have, but the effect is not that big of a deal lol, it makes such a minor difference and only makes a game look kind of less choppy. I'd say at high FPS ranges it's nice but tbh unless games are dipping into the 90s/80s at 120+fps you barely notice it's dropping fps even without VRR.
Eliminating torn frames is a big deal
 

LordOfChaos

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I'm just going to put this here as the latest update reminded me

I got the update, restarted, got a controller update, did that.

Just on a hunch I went and checked the "feature update" tab, and yep, there was another update and restart there.

What exactly is the difference between the OS updates and feature updates, why are they separated, and why do you sometimes have to do both?

Does anyone have a good answer what the differences are and why there are two sections?
 

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Well despite watching dozens of videos during the beta of how to install the M.2 SSD I still went and managed to ever so slightly mess it up anyway! :messenger_open_mouth:

Nothing serious, mind. My 2 TB WD SN850 SSD with heatsink is installed and working, currently moving (disappointingly slowly) a number of archived PS5 games on my external 4 TB Crucial X6 SSD to the new M.2 drive. This just hammers home how basic the PS5's copy/move features are when you cannot do anything else with the console while the files transfer (unlike on my 4 year old Xbox One X!).

No, I managed to first scratch the innards of my PS5 trying to remove the side panel. I was taken aback at how hard it was to get it off so put more force in than I needed to at which point the cover came off very fast, causing some noticeable white scratches with it. Great start! Sure, you can't see them with the panel in place but I know they are there. That's what's so damn annoying.

Installing the SSD was relatively easy or so I thought as I put the PS5 back together and plugged everything back in. I turned the console on to be greeted with a request to update my profile but nothing came up about formatting the new drive. Puzzled, I rebooted my PS5. Same result. The Storage section only showed the Console and External drives. Fearing the worse, that my PS5 was defective or that the drive itself was duff, I unplugged the PS5, removed the base... again (God, how I hate that thing!) and checked to see if the drive was correctly inserted.

Turns out it wasn't. Duh! So I removed it then reinserted it, remembering from those many YouTube videos, that the drive when not tightened down sort of pops up slightly at an angle. Anyway, I reinserted the mounting screw but, this time, decided to try my PS5 first before putting everything back together. That's probably a good time-saving tip for anyone else about to install an internal M.2 SSD, by the way.

I have come across a couple of issues though with the new firmware. One, when going to Storage > External Storage all my archived PS5 games were at the very bottom of a very long list of PS4 games on my 4 TB SSD. There's no way to sort by PS4 or PS5 games, that I could see.

The second issue is a puzzling one. Assassin's Creed: Valhalla and Resident Evil Village, both PS5 games, which were archived from the internal Console storage to my external SSD make space are greyed out in the Move to M.2 SSD section for some reason. The PS5 says I cannot move them because they are being moved to the Console storage! No they aren't. They were both moved to the 4 TB drive from there a few months ago where they have remained.

Does anyone know how to fix this as I want to move both from the external drive to the M.2 SSD.

*UPDATE*
Reinstalling both games to the new M.2 drive fixed the issue as the archived copies on the external drive became selectable and could then be deleted. Clearly this is a bug, possibly the games glitched out when they were moved/archived, but I thought I'd post it here in case anyone else comes across the same issue.
 
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LordOfChaos

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Trying 3D Audio via TV speakers(I'm not technically using TV speakers, but a 2.1 system) in Immortals, woah it's kind of trippy. Definitely feels more like there's a center channel, the characters voice seems to come from the center now rather than just being balanced on both left and right, and objects can move through space more.

It's not going to trick anyone into thinking TV speakers are a 5.1 system, but it sounds way more 3D-ey than two speakers
 
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After this update, every time I put FFVIIR’s disk to play the game, it tries to download the PS4 version....it’s little annoying.
 
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NeonGhost

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I totally forgot about that, you are correct, but iirc isn't that more of a problem on Xbox than PlayStation to begin with? I know COD has zero screen tearing on PS but it was a huge issue on Xbox without VRR
But who knows how the games will perform tomorrow
 

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Do you mean fix why it is always using 40+ GB of storage space?

I understand what it is but it never seems to compact properly. My other space was at 97 GB. I factory reset my PS5 and reinstalled my PS5 games and it now sits at just 20GB. I think the issue is, and what a lot recommend against, is ever installing PS4 games to anything but external storage.
 

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Has anyone updated the firmware on their Samsung 980 Pro before putting it into the PS5? I'm seeing people getting noticeably faster read speeds.
 

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This might be a silly question, but would the 3D audio for TV speakers make a difference with a home theater system in any way?
I found the answer to be No.

I checked after updating the firmware last night. I have 5.1 home theatre (or whatever it's called) as my sound output in the audio options and the new options regarding 3D audio for TV speakers is greyed out.
 
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Justin9mm

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Has anyone updated the firmware on their Samsung 980 Pro before putting it into the PS5? I'm seeing people getting noticeably faster read speeds.
Sorry, don't know the answer to your question but this is why I didn't go Samsung. They always have some sort of issue with their storage devices and I hate Samsung Magician. I also have had two previous older SSD drives in my PC that eventually had issues so never again.
 

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Exactly, already upgrade to PS5 version, I don't need PS4 one but every time I put the disk on to play it tries to download the PS4 version.
Oh I get it now. I thought you didn't have the PS5 version downloaded already. That's silly.
 

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After this update, every time I put FFVIIR’s disk to play the game, it tries to download the PS4 version....it’s little annoying.

It started doing that to me with this update. Been playing the ps5 version with the ps4 disc in all week just fine. Now everytime I turn the ps5 on it tries to reinstall the ps4 version.
 
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It started doing that to me with this update. Been playing the ps5 version with the ps4 disc in all week just fine. Now everytime I turn the ps5 on it tries to reinstall the ps4 version.
Yup! exact same problem, its really annoying.
 
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Hawk269

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Is there a thread for recommendations of M2 SSD's that work with the PS5? Also ones that come with a Heatsink? I am thinking of getting at least a 2tb one, but have not followed enough to know which one is the best but also comes with a heatsink.

I wish it was as easy as MS made it for the Series consoles. You buy it, plug it in and done...no worrying about opening the system, adding a heatsink etc.
 

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This might be a silly question, but would the 3D audio for TV speakers make a difference with a home theater system in any way?
You can't use both at the same time on PS5. You must use your TV audio with the new 3D stuff OR your home theater. As of now, there is no virtual 3D audio for home theaters, but Sony said they will bring it in a later date.

I tried both, 3D is pretty cool, but 5.1 or higher is better ☺️ still a very surprising feature, imo.
 

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I found the answer to be No.

I checked after updating the firmware last night. I have 5.1 home theatre (or whatever it's called) as my sound output in the audio options and the new options regarding 3D audio for TV speakers is greyed out.
If you are using the soundbar via ARC from the TV, you can change the soundbar selection in that PS5 menu to TV, and then those options become available, and it allows you to calibrate through the soundbar - which is what I did - but I haven't had time to try any content I know to work well on phones, to see if it works as hoped.

I have a funny feeling, the console is reading the TV's identifier to have knowledge of the TV's speaker specs and relative positions, and reading the TV internal setting for whether the TV is on a stand or wall mounted, so its algorithm would have false info if using a soundbar instead of the TV internal speakers.

Makes me want to try the PS5 3D audio on the spare TV's excellent 60watt fluid magnetic speakers.