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[longdi]

Guess it is better to start a clean thread.
Leak spread your wings and take flight

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PS5 probably targeting near 2080 speeds.

Discuss your disappointment, happiness or expectations.

Im on 1080ti. It is pretty good gaming at 1440p.

I have no info on the XSX. PS5 was told "between 1080 and 1080Ti performance". No numbers were given as most devs don't know the specs. Real world performance though is what I was after. That performance simply isn't enough for any real RTX enhancements IMO.

 

[Mista]

More powerful than 2080? Sure.

 

[renzolama]

Surely this will be the generation where new consoles outpace PC performance at launch!

Edit: Also, this will be the generation where manufacturers are able to sell an entire console for half the price of the GPU they claim it to outperform. The entire hardware industry will be in chaos and even the laws of thermodynamics may be in jeopardy.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

More powerful than a 2080 and between 1080 and 1080 Ti are so far off as to make this not worth anyone's time.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

I hope all the GPU rumors are true because that will mean tons of bottleneck and short cut threads, filled with warriors.

Same, but different, but still the same. Put it in my veins

 

[Heebie Jeebies]

As powerful as a card that costs £750. Okidoki.

 

[too much eslim]

I'm confused. Everyone was saying how more powerful the PS5 was compared to Scarlett. Now no one knows anything lol. People need to stop talking about things they know nothing about. Too much misinformation being spread just for a click.

 

[longdi]

1080ti trades blow with 2080, winner depends on which games are used.

 

[Fake]

So, this is a lie just like Horizon Zero Dawn on PC or this is true just like Horizon Zero Dawn on PC.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

More powerful than a 2080 and between 1080 and 1080 Ti are so far off as to make this not worth anyone's time.

For real lol.

 

[Blond]

Surely this will be the generation where new consoles outpace PC performance at launch!

Edit: Also, this will be the generation where manufacturers are able to sell an entire console for half the price of the GPU they claim it to outperform. The entire hardware industry will be in chaos and even the laws of thermodynamics may be in jeopardy.

The 360 did lol.

But that was a fluke and wasn't Microsoft eating like 2-300 dollars a console or something like that?

 

[FearlessBelgian]

Let me pop a pimple from excitement.

God please hide this horror of my eyes...

And in reality it gonna be a miracle if the PS5 and XS will have a GPU more powerfull than a GTX 1080(non-ti)...

 

[Thanati]

Surely this will be the generation where new consoles outpace PC performance at launch!

Edit: Also, this will be the generation where manufacturers are able to sell an entire console for half the price of the GPU they claim it to outperform. The entire hardware industry will be in chaos and even the laws of thermodynamics may be in jeopardy.

for the first month? Sure.

 

[Chiggs]

Oh man, they are soooooo equal in power!

 

[Dr.brain64]

Pretty good considering the price of a console.

 

[Proelite]

1080ti is essentially equal to 2080.

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

I guess Timdoggydog is the only one to be verified of the @OsirisBlack @CameFromNearFuture @Tommy Fisher @XcloudTimdog bunch? Can't say I'm surprised, though. Timdoggydog is a verified fanboy, that much is true

www.neogaf.com

 

[Gamernyc78]

I'm confused. Everyone was saying how more powerful the PS5 was compared to Scarlett. Now no one knows anything lol. People need to stop talking about things they know nothing about. Too much misinformation being spread just for a click.

Almost no one said how more powerful ps5 is over nextbox, the narrative has always been ps5 is more powerful buttt thy are close in power.

 

[DynamiteCop!]

1080ti is essentially equal to 2080.

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

I guess Timdoggydog is the only one to be verified of the @OsirisBlack @CameFromNearFuture @Tommy Fisher @XcloudTimdog bunch? Can't say I'm surprised, though. Timdoggydog is a verified fanboy, that much is true

www.neogaf.com

It's about 8% faster, but the jump from the 1080 to 2080 is like 31% so this whole conceptualized performance window is super vague and not worth bothering with.

 

[Rightisright]

2080 = 10.07 tflops

 

[DaMonsta]

What’s more telling is that he says “devs don’t know final specs”

Which tells me all this“insider info” is likely BS

 

[magnumpy]

are there any rumors about 3080 performance? other than the code name ampere and the shift from 12nm -> 7nm.

 

[mango drank]

Somewhere between a 96 Honda Civic and 99 Nissan Sentra but more powerful than a Lamborghini Aventador, with the acceleration of an SR-71 Blackbird but no faster than a housecat, and the fuel capacity of a Vespa or, I dunno, an oil tanker. Does that paint a picture?

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Firstly:

Secondly, we're supposed to believe a 2080 can push 8k/120fps with ray-tracing enabled?

*checks out until Sony speaks and raw data is available*

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

sure

 

[Celcius]

I'll be glad when we finally get to that February event... then people can hopefully stop all these wild guesses lol

 

[Hendrick's]

I can't wait until the specs are out so we can stop with these dumb threads and instead move on to secret sauce and hidden chip speculation.

 

[ethomaz]

The title says one.
The body says two.

Who believe?

Over RTX 2080 is not between GTX1080 and RTX 2080.

But from the two guys Jason will always be the right one.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Y'all wanna pop pimples out or excitement....ok lol

 

[Rayderism]

I think the biggest difference is games being optimized to run on a single design of a console, that's dedicated primarily to playing games, versus making a game for a multi-purpose and the wildly varying hardware of a PC.
While a PC can run those game much better, they also tend to be much more powerful than a console. Most times, the minimum specs for a PC to run the same game as a console is still higher than what the console has in it. Build a PC with the meager specs of a PS4, for instance, and the PC probably couldn't run its version of the game as well as the PS4 runs the version made for it.

So, in other words, a PC can't make a game that looks better than a console game unless it's MUCH more powerful to begin with.

 

[Max_Po]

I think the biggest difference is games being optimized to run on a single design of a console, that's dedicated primarily to playing games, versus making a game for a multi-purpose and the wildly varying hardware of a PC.
While a PC can run those game much better, they also tend to be much more powerful than a console. Most times, the minimum specs for a PC to run the same game as a console is still higher than what the console has in it. Build a PC with the meager specs of a PS4, for instance, and the PC probably couldn't run its version of the game as well as the PS4 runs the version made for it.

O REALLY !!!! ????

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Is this the first generation where we have no credible leaks whatsoever?

With the exception of the PS4, because Sony did a last minute switch, we knew about the xbox one since 2011.

 

[Bkdk]

It’s possible they will have multiple models at launch. For Sony’s first party exclusives, graphical power is by far the most important due to them love making linear and atmosphere and cutscene focused games so how beautiful their games look is always their priority.

 

[nkarafo]

599 US dollars.

 

[Reallink]

are there any rumors about 3080 performance? other than the code name ampere and the shift from 12nm -> 7nm.

Logically, it will have to be at least a 20%+ gain on the 2080Ti. The node shrink alone will add 50%, never mind architectural improvements. AMD will have a whole range of cards that match and surpass the 2080Ti which they will have to price very competitively to claw back Nvidia's monopolistic marketshare. Nvidia in turn will have to deliver performance at a reasonable price, or risk ceding considerable share to AMD. If Big Navi's and 3XXX's launch around the middle of the year and production rates are good, I expect you will start seeing discounts around the console launches which means PC GPU's that surpass PS5 by 30-50%+ could be streeting for $500-$600.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

God please hide this horror of my eyes...

And in reality it gonna be a miracle if the PS5 and XS will have a GPU more powerfull than a GTX 1080(non-ti)...

Xbox Series X beats 2080 Super and matches 2080 Ti. If it truly has a 12 teraflops Navi GPU, likely RDNA 2, it is clearly 2080 Ti class in performance. Know that's shocking, but it's happening.

 

[stranno]

It will be between 3DFX Voodoo 1 and Nvidia 40080ti.

 

[Ellery]

wait so the new consoles are not more powerful than the 2500$ RTX Titan with 16 TFLOPs, 300W power usage, and 754mm² chip ?


I was so sure this time they could make the impossible possible

 

[Shin]

599 US dollars.

I'd be more than ok with that price if it gets me a 12TF console and bandwidth in the mid to high 5xx/6xx GB/s.

 

[Dacon]

Xbox Series X beats 2080 Super and matches 2080 Ti. If it truly has a 12 teraflops Navi GPU, likely RDNA 2, it is clearly 2080 Ti class in performance. Know that's shocking, but it's happening.

I love how people say such things with so much confidence.

 

[FearlessBelgian]

Xbox Series X beats 2080 Super and matches 2080 Ti. If it truly has a 12 teraflops Navi GPU, likely RDNA 2, it is clearly 2080 Ti class in performance. Know that's shocking, but it's happening.

Hum, i want to believe it but i can't... How much for a console with so much power in it ? a 599-699€/$ console have no chance to sell...

 

[zeorhymer]

Between 1080 and 2080...isn't that a giant swath? Sounds like it's in between the east coast and the west coast.

 

[DonF]

I game on the PS4 mainly, last gen on x360, I would say I'm a console guy.

I don't expect that amount of raw performance, but the games will look as if where running on equivalent hardware.

 

[Spukc]

i heard the ps5 will play games

 

[Dabaus]

In laymens and dragon ball z power level terms what are we looking at here if a 1080i is the least we can expect from next gen? Whats the gulf of power between an 1080 i and regular 1080?

Edit: Looking at a graphics card chart there does seem to be a pretty wide gulf between a regular 1080 and 1080 i gpu card...

 

[GymWolf]

Between 1080ti and 1080 or 2080 are 2 different things...

Am i drunk without even drinking and i saw wrong??

 

[GymWolf]

Somewhere between a 96 Honda Civic and 99 Nissan Sentra but more powerful than a Lamborghini Aventador, with the acceleration of an SR-71 Blackbird but no faster than a housecat, and the fuel capacity of a Vespa or, I dunno, an oil tanker. Does that paint a picture?

But how pepe silvia fit in all of this?
Do we have to call CAROOOOOL??

 

[StreetsofBeige]

If PS5 and SeX have similar power with these gpus, sounds good to me.

 

[MoreJRPG]

These new consoles are gonna cost $1000 if all this nonsense is true.