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Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
It won’t be anything more than $499.99, history has shown that consoles sell miserably at $600, and best at $399 or less. $499.99 is the “sweet spot” for eating a fairly small loss and still being marketable, with room for plenty of future price cuts to bring it down to the $400 range in a few years when the initial hype dies down and more casual gamers start to consider the console.
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Codes 208
Member
I got the reference, im just saying people really do still look for archaic systems.
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itsjustJEFF
Member
Maybe best for Xbox? probably. Really best case scenario would be $399 each.
I think these things will come in at $499, which is a great value. I think both PS/Xbox can afford to lose money on console sales. They have other revenue streams that can make up for those loses, PS+/Live, Now/GamePass, to be specific. I think we'll be okay... unless these two somehow get together and make some weird agreement to price their pieces of plastic "at cost."
Blond
Banned
Yep, I don't think people realize that last gen for once it didn't take them 2 years to make a profit on hardware sells. They were pulling in positive cash flow 5-6 months into the generation, I don't believe either company is willing to eat a long term loss anymore after that. It'll be expensive, but close to the actual manufacturing price I bet.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Everyone's definition of "cheap" is comparatively different though.
Keep in mind that the dude telling us this is worth millions of dollars.
Keep in mind that the dude telling us this is worth millions of dollars.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
You just wait and see my friend.so you expect ms to just take a huge loss on each console just because? both consoles will be the same price
geordiemp
Member
and retailers get nothing and shipping is free ?
Shipping costs for freight has doubled internationally last 3 months...to add to the pain.
550 for ps4, 600 for XSX. lockart comes in at 400 to 450.
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Slings and Arrows
Banned
Shin
Banned
I think next gen might last longer due to dev time and the gen after that won't be bringing 8K.
More the reason I wish Sony would have went with a 12TF machine, forgo a potential Pro model.
SaturnSaturn
Member
You are correct, Kenichiro Yoshida even went as far to say that it was a niche product aimed at hardcore gamers
Sony Positions Next PlayStation for Hard-Core Gamers
Sony’s next-generation PlayStation is still more than a year away, but its marketing strategy against newcomers like Google is already clear: Focus on hard-core gamers who obsess over the latest features.
www.wsj.com
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Codes 208
Member
It was, my personal favorite really, but its just so alien to me when people walk into into walmart/target looking for systems that have been obsolete for years.Ohh
The 360 was a good system.
then again, i equally have people coming in asking if we have VCR’s.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I heard the Pro revision will have 3 super secret SSDs linked together by Magic and will only cost a cool 50k. Good value for unlimited bandwidth tho
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manuvlad
Neo Member
I'm ok with 499 dollars. I think the 399 barrier makes the development and implementation of meaningful features really hard. I'd rather pay a little more for a one time purchase that will allow me to have a better experience, than pay a little less for something that will be outdated pretty soon.
ethomaz
Banned
Real from Brasil.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Thanks...ohh shit wasn't there PS4 like super expensive initially?
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap.
For comparison PS4 was launched at R$4000 when the exchange rate was around R$3 per $1... now it is over R$5 per $1.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Stay safe
Bladed Thesis
Member
TheAssist
Member
Dont forget FF7R and Dreams. This is great year for PS4. Not that great for XBone. Well last year wasnt great for them either. Time for a new console I guess.
Anyway, I personally dont think that 499 is expensive, considering its a one time payment for a machine that you'll use for about 6 to 8 years. Considering what people pay for other stuff.
I find it especially weird when you think about the fact that people are arguing between a range of 400 and 550 bucks. Like how much does that 150 (put in your currency of choice) really matter. I mean if the difference is too much for you to pay, than you should really just wait for a pricedrop and get some discounted older games for maximum value. I dont mean that in a mean way, but if you can not afford this, than it should not be your first priority to get a console on launch when there is hardly anything to play on. Just doesnt make sense. If you are a bit short on money, then just wait a year, enjoy the games that are out on your current plattform because I'm sure you havent played all the games yet and wait until the market has decided what a good price for these new consoles is.
That doesnt mean they should go completely nuts with pricing, but I think people who pay that amount of money to get a gaming console at launch buy a luxury product and in that context 50 bucks more or less shouldn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Especially if these system are going to be limited in numbers at launch.
I know I will piss people of with this post, because everyone is entitled to their hobby. Then again I think if 50 bucks more or less breaks your bank it would be financially not advisable to buy a console on launch. For the first 10 years after moving out from home I couldnt buy shit without savin up for several months or even a year. For the first 5 I was in university and for the later 5 I was paying back my student loan. I couldnt afford a lot of games or hardware and that was that. I had to wait or get creative. Now that I earn enough money I just dont care if these new consoles cost 400, 500, or 600. If I decide that the hardware and software is worth that price I can just buy it without thinking about it too much. Thats why I find price speculations in a vacuum quite useless.
Just my two very radical cents.
Vaztu
Member
Isn't it cheaper to book a flight to Mexico/US (or cheapest country) and buy a PS5 ?
Digity
Member
Day one baby.
Grinchy
Banned
I know I'm getting 11 jobs!
NoMoChokeSJ
Banned
I know its not apples to apples but after building a gaming PC I can't see how both of these consoles won't be pushing $600.
Aceofspades
Banned
PS5 at $499 is a bargain. Its the most advanced next gen console (That SSD, Tempest Engine, advance cooling AND that pretty controller)
Hell I would pay more than that for it!!
Hell I would pay more than that for it!!
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Blond
Banned
Yeah damn straight. I tell people Cuba is cheap for an island vacation, but that doesn't mean 2,000 dollars for a 2 week stay that'll pay for everything from flight, hotel, food, transporation and experiences (paid and free) doesn't make 2000 dollars any less expensive. You just get a better value for your vacation.
martino
Member
i see it like you
turtlepowa
Banned
Sony is not that stupid to ask for more than 500 bucks, they know how they mainly won this gen and how important the price is to the people.
Entroyp
Member
$499 is a sweet deal today. Same price as the Xbox X
ManaByte
Gold Member
Xbox X is $299.
gamerforever
Banned
I’m comfortable with this being £699 in all honesty because of how much time i will spend on this. It will be £499.
They should eat a small loss in each console sold
Entroyp
Member
Was it launched at $299?
Woodchipper
Member
I really hope for people’s sake that it will not be another “$599 fuck up” but personally, I know I’ll get it no matter how hefty the price tag will be.
gamerforever
Banned
Sony’s exclusives are worth more, so even £699 is appropriate. Microsoft have to price their console £399 to get any traction because they simply won’t have the exclusives and will be relying on gamepass and bc.
ethomaz
Banned
To Paraguay yes... to Mexico I don't know... to US probably not (but you will enjoy the travel so it is a plus).
But you won't have it at launch that way
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Self High Five
Member
Kaz Hirai in 2013: "Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?"
Shortly after, Sony announces the Playstation meeting.
I don't believe executives in general.
Shortly after, Sony announces the Playstation meeting.
I don't believe executives in general.
Jigga117
Member
Sorry this is such a bullshit comment. Why stop there and just say $1000? What is ironic about you saying they rely on gamepass and BC thats what all the consoles relied on was game sales not the hardware. So how is this a bad thing that services associated with systems sold is a bad thing? So Sony doesn't want you to buy Playstation Plus and Now to make more money? Thats the way it works in any market but MS is special somehow.
FranXico
Member
Then you pay for customs when you bring it back.
Vaztu
Member
Dunno about how it works in different parts of the world, but I just put it in hand-carry and they don't check jackshit, if they ask - I tell them its for personal use. Maybe its only my country but never had a problem
Radical_3d
Member
Completely agree. What a pitty they won’t be worth 700€ and priced 599 for a 32GB pool.