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PS5 Pro Reveal Thread - Not Flops, TFlops

GHG

Member
$700 + no disc drive + no included $2 stand reeks of finance monkey involvement.

It wouldn't even be so bad if not for that fact that all they have to show off this hardware with is a bunch of cross-gen games that also run competently on 2013 hardware. Oh, and they are also pretty much all on PC right now running at the same or better settings than what they showed off today running on pro hardware.

Insane levels of incompetence on display.
 
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LordCBH

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There was thst one leak that said PS5 Pro would support Dolby Vision go UHD disk movies. Has that been confirmed anywhere?
 

dDoc

Member
And yet this PC won't be able to play GTA6 until 16 months after the PS5 Pro, Sony don't really need "advantages" when this is the only place to play GTA6 at 60fps for 16 months after release

Who says it will run GTA6 at 60 fps? We do not know that yet.

CPU is the same as the base model. Obviously it's more powerful than the base version, but do not expect miracles from the pro.
 

LordCBH

Member
It wouldn't even be so bad if not for that fact that all they have to show off this hardware with is a bunch of cross-gen games that also run competently on 2013 hardware.

Insane levels of incompetence on display.

For real. Had they dropped even a small like 30 second teaser for Tushy 2 or ND’s next game I could at least be like “aight.”
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
When this gen consoles came out, they were pretty good deal, due to covid and crypto craze in comparison to PC. Now for 800EUR you can actually build a PC with same level of performance.
 

Fake

Gold Member
Cerny did his job this gen, and he did it very well.

However, everyone else surrounding him at Sony are trying their best to undermine his work.

Don't be surprised if he bounces before the end of this gen.

Cerny was what make me buy a PS4 to begin with.

If Cerny get out of the boat next gen PS5 will be my last console.

Its funny you mention that people 'are trying their best to undermine his work' because is a pattern I've be seeing in movies quite ofen this generation. About new folks trying to get famouns by the work of others.
 
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lmao

Here we go with those bad takes just to defend Sony.

I am not defending sony, its common sense. They have the data and they know people who spend a certain range in the ps store are mainly buying games digitally.

People who spend a lot of money want convenience and buying/using disc isn't convenient.

If you are buying a $700 console, most likely you don't care about saving a couple dollars buying or trading in a disc.
 
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kiphalfton

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$700 + no disc drive + no included $2 stand reeks of finance monkey involvement.

I would have never guessed a mid gen refresh would cost this much.

I feel stupid for selling my PS5 launch system now... Got $400+, but still.
 
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Buggy Loop

Gold Member
On pc its very cpu heavy, and pr0 has same cpu as base ps5 just with tiny overclock, maybe we could hope for 40fps mode if that.

This is what I don't get. The more complex the scene for ray tracing, the more load on CPU. To keep the same CPU with a tiny overclock is already bottleneck galore. Forget complex scene path tracing on this thing.
 
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Fake

Gold Member
I am not defending sony, its common sense. They have the data and they know people who spend a certain range in the ps store are mainly buying games digitally.

People who spend a lot of money want convenience and buying/using disc isn't convenient.

You must have missed a lot of sales thread dude. The disc version sell a lot more than the digital only version. In every fucking metric. It's not even debatable.

'They have the data'. They don't have shit.
 
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Akuji

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PSSR should work on Bloodborne if i interpret cernys quote from the cnet video correctly.
But with PC Emulation doing Bloodborne now, not sure how much that actually matters.
 
You must have missed a lot of sales thread dude. The disc version sell a lot more than the digital only version. In every fucking metric. It's not even debatable.

'They have the data'. They don't have shit.
Dude this is a premium product that isn't targeting the main stream audience. Its not the same thing as the base model. Plus you can buy the disc drive as an add on.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I just bought some blu-rays again since streaming is getting worse by the day, and my PS5 is my only blu-ray player. So the real price of the PS5P for me is $780 + tax.

Maybe $300 resale value on the PS5 Disc? After taxes and fees it's a >$500 upgrade. Tough pill to swallow without a system seller title.
 

Flintty

Member
When I bought my PS5 a couple of months ago I was toying with the idea of waiting for a Pro version but at 700 notes, I think I made the right call.

Definitely not interested in mind-gen upgrade, I did last time and in hindsight it was a waste of money.

I’ll save the cash for the next gen console shopping spree!
 

Saber

Member
I am not defending sony, its common sense. They have the data and they know people who spend a certain range in the ps store are mainly buying games digitally.

I don't think so? The difference in sales between the disk version of PS5 and the Digital one is huge. Unless you have something to counter this I don't think will be different on this case, even if the PS5 PRO is supposed to be a premium product people make absolute case of the disk, theres no denying.

Sorry if this has been asked, does it come with the vertical stand?

No, it doesn't.
 
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Fake

Gold Member
Dude this is a premium product that isn't targeting the main stream audience. Its not the same thing as the base model. Plus you can buy the disc drive as an add on.

You even read what you post?

A premium product without even a metal base to put in vertical mode. A premium product without disc drive. A premium product without a new software that take 100% use of the capability.

I'll be surprise if even come with a HDMI cable.
 

N30RYU

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Who does this target??? PS5 Pro is a PS5 in quality mode running fps like in performance mode...

Cerny says in the video that 3/4 choose performance... so they don't care about graphics above fps... so they aten't gonna spend 800€ to run games again in 60fps...

And the 1/4 that run games in quality mode... they don't care about fps... so why would they spend the money to get 60fps??

I DON'T GET IT
 
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DryvBy

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Don't you guys see the graphical difference?
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Not yet. I doubt it will sell out, unless they're under stocking it because they know the market will not react positively.
Just saw, September 26. I'm actually on the fence a out it because I want a PS5 in time for GTA6 and want the best experience at launch. That is going to be on the pro
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
You even read what you post?

A premium product without even a metal base to put in vertical mode. A premium product without disc drive. A premium product without a new software that take 100% use of the capability.

I'll be surprise if even come with a HDMI cable.
I don’t know what the fuck Sony is thinking making digital only and you fucking pay extra for disc drive…..WTF!?
 

Klosshufvud

Member
The target audience for this console don't care about a disc drive.
What exactly is the target audience again? Because all I can discern is that this is made for people who are willing to pay huge sums for "upgrades" that are completely arbitrary and limited, with some features even cut. This is nothing but a maneuver to boost stockholder esteem. This has no actual purpose for us. I'm going to be sad when this launches and mindless consumers buy this in the millions simply because it has the "Pro" tag on it, not even knowing what it is they're buying that's so Pro. This console generation has been a long joke.
 

LostDonkey

Member
Wow that is gonna flop so hard at that price. £699?? They really didn't learn did they with the pricing after PSVR2.

That is ridiculous.
 

leo-j

Member
I also believe Sony are testing the waters with this price point….. you’re talking people upgrading their iPhones every year or two for $900-1200+ , and PC’s close to what this can do probably run at 1k+ in cost….. so they wanted to close the gap a bit, steam decks are quiet expensive too, people expecting a $499 console are in over their heads imo.
 

Magic Carpet

Gold Member
I'm going to put all future PS5 Pro threads on ignore. My interest in PS5 and PRO has tanked.
PC port begging on the menu.
 

near

Gold Member
Just saw, September 26. I'm actually on the fence a out it because I want a PS5 in time for GTA6 and want the best experience at launch. That is going to be on the pro
Yea me too. There is fuck all on it that I can't already play somewhere else. I want this for GTA6 and DS2. I'd be playing PS4 games and watching films on it. It's so hard to justify that price, I think I will just tank the pain.
 

GHG

Member
I just bought some blu-rays again since streaming is getting worse by the day, and my PS5 is my only blu-ray player. So the real price of the PS5P for me is $780 + tax.

Maybe $300 resale value on the PS5 Disc? After taxes and fees it's a >$500 upgrade. Tough pill to swallow without a system seller title.

Look in to getting a kaleidoscope player if it's available where you are, I hear great things about the system. It is expensive though.

If it were available where I live then I'd be all over it. But until then, purchased movies via the 4k Apple TV and blu rays are my only options.
 
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Danjin44

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That 2TB SSD will not survive with this bunch of games patches with ultra hd textures.
Especially you have a game like FFVII Rebirth that take 145 GB and even PS4 game like Monster Hunter World + Iceborne has big file size let alone Monster Hunter Wild + its expansion.

It just fucking stupid.
 
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