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PS5 specs revealed. Up to 10.2 Tflops.
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GymWolf
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tbh i really don't care about both. (and i don't know if i wasnt' clear but sex win both on storage and BC)
i will switch the current ps5 with a ps5 14tf and 300gb of ssd with zero BC without a single regret.
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MisterXDTV
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Agreed, I have unlimited 1 gigabit fiber at home so I can Install and delete at will...
About BC, I'm happy with just PS4 games, don't care about older titles
GlassAwful
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Hey where's that indie VR dev from that noname company or the garage band dev to update us on the latest console devkit specs? Obviously Cerny is not aware of the most recent dev kit release.
Is Klee still in canada? Has Osiris gone to join him?
Not even Press Sneak fuck was right about spec claims. Insiders are worthless.
Is Klee still in canada? Has Osiris gone to join him?
Not even Press Sneak fuck was right about spec claims. Insiders are worthless.
JareBear: Remastered
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both XsX and PS4 have 8core/16 thread CPUs, right?
What people are not taking into account with the PS5’s SSD speeds and “bigger and more detailed worlds” due to faster streaming are the GPU and CPU requirements to render said “bigger and more detailed worlds”. The GPU and CPU are considerably weaker than the Series X. It won’t be rendering bigger and more detailed anything.
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MisterXDTV
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correct
DntMesArnd
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I'm kind of confused. Last gen, Flops were a big deal when sony had more. But this gen the don't matter as much?
I'll get both as always, but Xbox day 1. PS4 when I get enough points to get one.
I'll get both as always, but Xbox day 1. PS4 when I get enough points to get one.
GymWolf
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rumors says that with a faster ssd you don't even need a cpu to begin with.
sony always a step ahead.
TLZ
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How'd you get that conclusion? 10.3 and 12.1 is what's available as max power for devs to use. He's basically saying PS5 will have 10.3, and it's upto devs to use it's full power or not. Just like it is every gen. It doesn't mean it goes up and down and likely 9.5 :/
If devs are only using 5tf of it, it doesn't mean it's a 5tf machine.
I think I did my maths wrong before. So at 10.2 and 12.1, the XSX has 17.5% more TF. I hope I did it right this time. Still closer to 15% than 25%. How'd you guys get 25%? Because 10.3 + 25% = 12.87, say 12.9.
dangopee
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The idea is that the percent difference this gen is less than last gen. And also diminishing returns of visual improvement per TFLOPS.
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MisterXDTV
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TLZ
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Of course TFs matter, but we didn't have these ultra fast custom SSDs and hardware that's aimed at speed more moving things so much quicker than last gens. So we haven't experienced that yet and it'll be very interesting how that turns out.
DntMesArnd
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Forget what it was last gen. This gen it's 18% increase for Xbox.
Moridianae
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This was a pretty big fuck up on many, many levels.
You don't wait until shortly after specifications of your competitor are revealed and announce an event that:
A.) Ended up being a bunch of techno-babble nobody truly understood or expected when they tuned in by and large, based on how your social media fired it off.
B.) Release a specification sheet that pales in comparison to your aforementioned competitor on basically *all* fronts, except for the SSD.
C.) I'm no technical guru, but even I saw through the jargon about teraflops and frequency enough to see "We overclocked the shit out of this to close a gap we somehow didnt see coming."
No reveal of the system, no reveal of a game running, nothing. Literally zero, whereas your competitor has done all that so far on TOP of having superior performance by a non-small margin.
Needs to be $399 and that's the only saving thing I can say so far.
Bad marketing, weaker specs(even a layman can look at specs and see the difference), just all around a bad situation for them. They deserve to be called out on it, also.
People are already fed up with you and this is all you had to give?
You don't wait until shortly after specifications of your competitor are revealed and announce an event that:
A.) Ended up being a bunch of techno-babble nobody truly understood or expected when they tuned in by and large, based on how your social media fired it off.
B.) Release a specification sheet that pales in comparison to your aforementioned competitor on basically *all* fronts, except for the SSD.
C.) I'm no technical guru, but even I saw through the jargon about teraflops and frequency enough to see "We overclocked the shit out of this to close a gap we somehow didnt see coming."
No reveal of the system, no reveal of a game running, nothing. Literally zero, whereas your competitor has done all that so far on TOP of having superior performance by a non-small margin.
Needs to be $399 and that's the only saving thing I can say so far.
Bad marketing, weaker specs(even a layman can look at specs and see the difference), just all around a bad situation for them. They deserve to be called out on it, also.
People are already fed up with you and this is all you had to give?
alabtrosMyster
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Obviously, same for the CPU/GPU... the differences may be pretty hard to spot, even for the trained eye.
I mean - both should run existing games extremely well (Ms seems like it has put more effort in enhancing their existing games, which is pretty great, no matter what you think of their first party output)... so the SSD is not really a differentiation factor in those.
But if you have a scene with tons of details (something mostly AAA games should have) half the transfer speed will make a difference there. Will any third party games do that? probably not that often as they will have designed some ways around it and we will never know what the impact is, except on fast travel, MAYBE.
I also stated that this does not make up for the CPU/GPU disparity.
I want to tell DF I am sorry for complaining about the video they made, this presentation did not make a good job at selling us the product's potential. Even worse than the overly edited DF video.
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DntMesArnd
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Hobbygaming
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It's the truth, the cold truth for someThats how you're comforting yourself now? You lot can sound pathetic sometimes
Rolling_Start
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This is fanboy crap.
I know families with 2 adults and 2 kids and an Xbox or PS4. Not unusual. Even if only three of them play games, between them they might want to play on a regular rotation: CoD, Fortnight, Minecraft, Apex legends, RDR2, GTA5, Fifa, and a few "minor" platform exclusives like (in the Xbox realm) Halo, Forza, Gears and whatever couple of hundred games are on Gampass.
Families needing more than 825 GB next gen to cover frequently played games being outrageous?
Get the fuck out of here. I've had more than a TB of storage in my PC for more than a decade, and I'm just an unloved, miserable, single fuckwit like you.
im disappointed in sony ,theyr system looks about 20% weaker, most games probably wont do 4k native,which is a joke as its a console meant for over 5 years and many ppl have 4k tvs, I might have to go with xbox this gen if they don't announce ps2 backwards compatibility with 4k resolution and automatic upgrades like xbox is doing ,xbox has way more incentives from the outset tbh with upscaled and upgraded old games ,sony doesn't seem to care to give us choice but push their blurry ps now service
Hobbygaming
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We haven't seen gameplay for those titles other than Flight Simulator
vpance
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It's a 1440p console when it comes to the top end games. Expect checkerboard and reconstructed 4K for sure, but then again that was going to happen even if it were 12TF.
Just wait for the DF comparos to see how bad the difference really is. Might actually hold off on getting a launch PS console for once.
siekro1983
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agreed i find myself waiting for ps4 pro. ps5 sounds like the red ring of death waiting to happen.
Rolling_Start
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In bandwidth limited situations, which based on RDNA 1 will be reasonably frequent, it's going to be rather more than 20% weaker.
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Hobbygaming
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Yeah, Cerny is a genius, PS5 will be very powerful
MisterXDTV
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I wrote temperature but I should have written "power consumption", not exactly the same thing....
GymWolf
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i think sex is gonna have more games at real4k, just look at pro and xone x, heavy games like rdr2 show pretty signifcant differences.
my 2070super is around a ps5 in power and i can't do 4k60 or even 4k30 with high details in a lot of games, a 2080ti is around a sex and it can achieve that. (stupid example but you get the gist)
this is why people wants more power, there is no secret ssd sauce that can change that and 20-30% more power is not a joke like some people think.
obviously this doesn0't mean that sony exclusives can't be better in overall graphics because they still have team of sorcerers devs, but still...
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JareBear: Remastered
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I am not sure this is accurate. I think 4k won't be an issue, but 4k/60 will
I espect a lot of games that are 4k/60 on XsX and 4k/30 on PS5
MilkyJoe
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they didn't say native 4k all games xbxo has been more clear on their messaging ,ps5 said 4k support
Hobbygaming
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PS5 will have a lot more games due to more 3rd party support especially from Japan and Sony has the China Hero Project
StreetsofBeige
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With the PS5 set up, Sony SP games will be 4k/30 and optional checkboard 4k/60.
MisterXDTV
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M1chl
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That presentation does not suggest SMT with PS5 though.
Shin
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DF: PS5's Variable Clocks Will Force Devs to Make Choices; Only 1st Party Will Truly Utilize SSD's Speed
Sony's PS5 has a blazing fast SSD, but only first party are truly going to use it. Meanwhile, variable clocks will force devs to make choices
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PleaseWaitStation4
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PS4-U ES6/30fps 4K, XBX ES6/60fps 4K
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MisterXDTV
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Eurogamer says it does
Elenchus
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From what I’m hearing Sony was forced to go with 36cu to achieve backwards compatibility with PS4.
If that’s true, Phil’s decision to push that feature and pressure Sony into having to match (or at least attempt to) may have been the greatest 3-dimensional chess move I’ve ever seen.
And what does this mean for PS6? Will that also need to be 36cu? Or will a more expensive solution be necessary?
Sony probably should have just dropped that feature. May not be worth the sacrifice.
If that’s true, Phil’s decision to push that feature and pressure Sony into having to match (or at least attempt to) may have been the greatest 3-dimensional chess move I’ve ever seen.
And what does this mean for PS6? Will that also need to be 36cu? Or will a more expensive solution be necessary?
Sony probably should have just dropped that feature. May not be worth the sacrifice.
siekro1983
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Holy crap, this is terrible boost system imo. Only looking at the logic being ran but trying maximize clocks will result in so many consoles overheating over the lifetime. The cooling system always degrades and if it's 60C at launch and boosting, once some dust gets in there, its going to 100C easily.
Will have to see what actually happens at launch but I have a feeling the console will launch hot and only get hotter over time with those kind of clocks if they really are targeting boost at those frequencies.
Talking about Dreams.... the dream is over lol.
Oh man, it's really 9TF with boost.
CPU is 100MHz slower than Sex Box.
Lower RAM bandwidth that have to be shared between the CPU and GPU unlike the dedicated lanes on Sex Box.
The SDD is nice, but all the transistors used for that probably subtracted from the GPU, and specially... it's good that the consumer can buy a standard SSD for expandable storage, but the money Microsoft will make with their proprietary cards should help subside the bigger GPU.
And not talk about back compatibility with the PS3-2
Will have to see what actually happens at launch but I have a feeling the console will launch hot and only get hotter over time with those kind of clocks if they really are targeting boost at those frequencies.
Talking about Dreams.... the dream is over lol.
Oh man, it's really 9TF with boost.
CPU is 100MHz slower than Sex Box.
Lower RAM bandwidth that have to be shared between the CPU and GPU unlike the dedicated lanes on Sex Box.
The SDD is nice, but all the transistors used for that probably subtracted from the GPU, and specially... it's good that the consumer can buy a standard SSD for expandable storage, but the money Microsoft will make with their proprietary cards should help subside the bigger GPU.
And not talk about back compatibility with the PS3-2
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bhunachicken
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Same! And from 10 feet away I can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K anyway..!
JareBear: Remastered
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DF: PS5's Variable Clocks Will Force Devs to Make Choices; Only 1st Party Will Truly Utilize SSD's Speed
Sony's PS5 has a blazing fast SSD, but only first party are truly going to use it. Meanwhile, variable clocks will force devs to make choices
Has D dark10x or Richard (or anyone from DF) tweeted anything about the PS5 GPU specs? That is what I am mostly interested in, specifically how they feel it will hold up against the XsX
StreetsofBeige
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That's ok. frames per second > resolution for me!Well, I'm poor I'm gonna be playing in 1080p/60 anyway
MrRenegade
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No it's not, they can buy external storage. If you've got above average needs, pay for it.
I know a family of orangutans who play 70 games and even 15TB is not enough for them... blabla usecase.
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Kenpachii
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I can actually see nvidia skimping on v-ram and amd again because of the lackbusting memory solution in the next consoles.