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[Wario64]

SE have just been in touch on this - there's no DRM. Will update with full story shortly.

Update: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/03...erence-was-an-error-no-psn-connection-needed/

Credit to LittleToaster

Warning about Tomb Raider:
It has the strict DRM that forces you to log in to PSN before playing it.

From the details:

Purchase or use of this item is subject to the PlayStation®Network Terms of Service and User Agreement and this item's use restrictions. This item has been sublicensed to you by Sony Computer Entertainment America. One-time license fee for downloads to up to 2 console systems that are associated with the purchasing account. No more than one activated PS3 system within a 24 hour period. Content may not be used by any other account. You must sign in to PSN each time you start the game.

Tomb Raider is the new Final Fight Double Impact. Some people might think this is no issue, but remember that PSN does have frequent maintenance periods. You won't be able to play the game when PSN goes down, even in single player. If it's like Final Fight, it only requires Internet connection when you launch the game. Most likely to combat gameshare, but seems very inconvenient for legitimate users.

At least this time, they made note of it in the terms on the product page. But I know many people (almost everyone) don't read it, so I thought you guys should know about it before opting for a digital version of the game.

Aren't you able to sign into PSN most of the time during maintenance?

Actually this is true, but you have sign into the service recently before maintenance for you to sign on. It depends on the type of maintenance though

 

[Tyrax]

Precursor to PS4?

 

[LiK]

The future

 

[Voice of Reason]

Holy shit why

 

[brandonh83]

Wow, then I'm actually glad that gamestop.com is taking fucking forever to send me the PSN codes I bought for this. However, that also means that I've already spent the money. Guess I'll be skipping the game for now.

Good job asshats.

 

[dallow_bg]

How many games total now have this kind of DRM?

4?
and 3 are Capcom?

So stupid.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I'm glad I didn't buy this game

 

[AppleMIX]

Why? I can at least see why Sim City did it but their is not god damn reason to do this.

 

[jwk94]

Aren't you able to sign into PSN most of the time during maintenance?

 

[Joseph Flemming]

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Painraze]

It begins.

 

[famousmortimer]

Precursor to PS4?

Not necessarily (though Im guessing sharing is out next gen...). This type of DRM has always been available on the PSN and has been used a few times, mostly by capcom, but also NBA 2k13 uses it as well for some odd reason.

 

[Wario64]

Aren't you able to sign into PSN most of the time during maintenance?

Actually this is true, but you have sign into the service recently before maintenance for you to sign on. It depends on the type of maintenance though

 

[EekumBokum]

Dammit. This is just the beginning.

 

[chubigans]

Why? I can at least see why Sim City did it but their is not god damn reason to do this.

I don't see any good reason why SimCity does it. Just thinking about that game makes me sad.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Holy shit why

Piracy, matey. Th' "Fish Breathed Waster!" custom firmware stuff must be th' reason why.

 

[DukeBobby]

What a fucking joke.

 

[GAMERG0D]

Come on Sony, how could you allow this? I was going to buy it on PC anyway.

 

[famousmortimer]

Why is everyone acting like this was just invented?

 

[Toki767]

It was Square Enix's choice to implement this. I guess they probably thought the amount of people that would want to buy it digitally aren't huge enough to make a big noise about DRM.

 

[whitehawk]

What I'm scared most about always-online games is game preservation. What would you do if you wanted to play this game, SimCity, or Diablo 3 15-20 years from now? I highly doubt the servers you would have to connect to would be online.

 

[Mik_Pad]

It was Square Enix's choice to implement this. I guess they probably thought the amount of people that would want to buy it digitally aren't huge enough to make a big noise about DRM.

And this prevents PSN game sharing to some extent.

Edit: No more than one activated PS3 system within a 24 hour period. Content may not be used by any other account

Fuck this, does this means I can't share the game with others in the same console?

 

[Vamphuntr]

What I'm scared most about always-online games is game preservation. What would you do if you wanted to play this game, SimCity, or Diablo 3 15-20 years from now? I highly doubt the servers you would have to connect to would be online.

They can always patch out the DRM before the network goes down... If they care enough at that point.

 

[nikos]

This doesn't bother me at all. My PS3 is always connected to the internet. In the rare occasion that it wouldn't be, I'd be OK not being able to play a game.

 

[Wario64]

Why is everyone acting like this was just invented?

It's not used frequently I guess...I already mentioned FF has done it before, I think you can count the number of titles on 1 hand that contain this DRM though. So I'm not surprised that people aren't aware of it


SOCOM Confrontation, Warhawk, Final Fight, Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 I think?

 

[KalBalboa]

Why is everyone acting like this was just invented?

Beats me. It's just anti-game sharing.

 

[whitehawk]

They can always patch out the DRM before the network goes down... If they care enough at that point.

But what about the case of physical games that require always online? Say you bought Diablo 3 from a flea market 20 years from now. The patch wouldn't be on the disc. What then?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I guess SE wanted to be stupid still welcome to the the future for some companies .

 

[Snaku]

What I'm scared most about always-online games is game preservation. What would you do if you wanted to play this game, SimCity, or Diablo 3 15-20 years from now? I highly doubt the servers you would have to connect to would be online.

Simple, you buy the new Super HD 10k re-re-release.

It's clear that these publishers are now in the business of selling you the same old shit in as many different ways, and as many times, as they can going forward.

 

[ambientmystic]

What I'm scared most about always-online games is game preservation. What would you do if you wanted to play this game, SimCity, or Diablo 3 15-20 years from now? I highly doubt the servers you would have to connect to would be online.

This game? At least the PC version has you covered with the Steam offline mode. If Steam ever gets fucked, you can at least crack your purchased game.

SimCity + Diablo 3 = You're fucked.

 

[Toki767]

It's not used frequently I guess...I already mentioned FF has done it before, I think you can count the number of titles on 1 hand that contain this DRM though. So I'm not surprised that people aren't aware of it


SOCOM Confrontation, Warhawk, Final Fight, Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 I think?

NBA 2K13 as well.

It's clear that these publishers are now in the business of selling you the same old shit in as many different ways, and as many times, as they can going forward.

To be fair, Square Enix has always been that way.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

Eff that noise. I once bought a game that had this 'always online' DRM BS - GT 5 Prologue. Never again.

 

[Wario64]

NBA 2K13 as well.

Interesting, news to me. Still a very small list of games

 

[Call Me Maybe]

What is this shit?
Is this also true for the XBL version of this game? IS there an XBL version of the game?

 

[sp3000]

First Simcity

Now this


Gaming is finished

 

[Jinfash]

This is really disappointing. I was literally waiting to get home tonight to download it, it was supposed to be my first "D1D" purchase. How unfortunate. This is not the type of DD that deserve to be embraced or rewarded.

 

[Pachterballs]

Hmmm.

not like I was going to buy this off PSN DD but it certainly makes it undesirable.

 

[JaseC]

It begins.

Somebody didn't read the OP.

Tomb Raider is the new Final Fight Double Impact.

 

[Tyrax]

First Simcity

Now this


Gaming is finished

You should consider getting the internet. It will change your life.

 

[ElectricKaibutsu]

I am shocked and appalled.

(No really, that super sucks)

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Umm why?

 

[jwk94]

Actually this is true, but you have sign into the service recently before maintenance for you to sign on. It depends on the type of maintenance though

Yeah, that's true.

 

[Roto13]

You should consider getting the internet. It will change your life.

Having "the internet" hasn't helped people with Sim City.

 

[Toki767]

You can't even gameshare with people in the same household who want to earn their own trophies. This type of DRM is pretty bad.

 

[MormaPope]

What an awesome meta puzzle, the solution to playing a single player game is to always have internet! That's the best puzzle in Tomb Raider I've heard about.

 

[water1111]

Is just like steam then, I don't see a problem.

 

[JaseC]

Is just like steam then, I don't see a problem.

Steam has an Offline Mode. PSN does not.

 

[dreamfall]

This is awful. I hope this isn't the start to the PS4 generation.

 

[GraveRobberX]

Is just like steam then, I don't see a problem.

Steam - $49.99
Can play offline

PSN - $59.99
Anytime time you want to play have to log-in, just to start the game, what if connection isn't available?

 

[water1111]

Steam has an Offline Mode. PSN does not.

You need internet to install, download and use other services like achievements, cloud saving and community, If you going to play offline it's not worth it.