GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
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PT and others games recreated in Dreams WTF!!!!
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I'm just far too busy unfortunately. I'm spending around 6 - 8 hours a day making videos ... It's worth it though. I'm now 4 off 700 subs.
When I started covering Dreams, I had 220 subs.
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Thanks mods for the title change
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Geki-D
Banned
I really want to see an OT. Might make one myself if no one else will, just so we have one at this point. Not really sure what to put in the OP or what I can even be bothered to put in in terms of effort.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Awesome living, breathing city:
Digital Gex
Banned
Isn't this basically Project Spark with less options?
Why would the average casual fortnite player buy this?
Why would the average casual fortnite player buy this?
I lost all interest in it because it's been overhyped to the point it's impossible to deliver. People post like pr staff that your kid can just up and make half life 3 or gta vi or the cure for cancer on it with no trouble, and "please note these were definitely not made by professional developers
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Digital Gex
Banned
I'm lost all interest in it because it's been overhyped to the point it's impossible to deliver. People post like pr staff that your kid can just up and make half life 3 or gta vi or the cure for cancer on it with no trouble, and "please note these were definitely not made by professional developers
Yeah it doesn't make much sense to me. Project Sparx failed because of the complexity being a barrier to get casuals, and limitations. This seems to be even less tools than PS, and it's being hype like a 5 year old kid can make a dream furry platformer or something in 2 days. Like it's some kind of minecraft substitute.
SlicedBread3
Member
Never tried Project Spark. What tools did that have that this is missing?
nkarafo
Member
It's like the "Awesome living, breathing city" example a few posts above. It's something that would look cool if you knew a friend of yours made it but would you actually spend time with it as you would in a real game? It looks really bad in that context.I lost all interest in it because it's been overhyped to the point it's impossible to deliver. People post like pr staff that your kid can just up and make half life 3 or gta vi or the cure for cancer on it with no trouble, and "please note these were definitely not made by professional developers
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
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FranXico
Member
No, it has more options than Project Spark, the only perceived limitations come from the UI that's designed only for a console controller.
And no, of course not, it's for a niche who likes game building tools.
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Digital Gex
Banned
Everything I seen shows there's less tolls, and there's lack of passing around to collaborate with others. I don't see this being much more of a success.
Tripolygon
Banned
Less tools such as? There's sharing of assets and collaboration. There's online collaboration and multiplayer coming post launch.
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Digital Gex
Banned
Yeah...Post launch...
Geki-D
Banned
Still not gonna say what tools aren't there, huh.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
A bunch of new characters:
Stop Making Sense
Neo Member
I'm really happy with my EA-Purchase. Let alone the Music-Tool, it was worth its 30 Bucks.
Moves are mandatory IMO to sculpt proper, but -> IMO ..and it's more of an easy-Mode for 90 Bucks
Strongly wishin for a "Listing of all Objects"-Mode inside a Dream to mark and group Objects.
Any OTs up for Dreams-Scenes made for Things besides the "Games"-Folder? Seems much more interesting than the obvious "Look at Me"-Contributions....e.g. mine
Moves are mandatory IMO to sculpt proper, but -> IMO ..and it's more of an easy-Mode for 90 Bucks
Strongly wishin for a "Listing of all Objects"-Mode inside a Dream to mark and group Objects.
Any OTs up for Dreams-Scenes made for Things besides the "Games"-Folder? Seems much more interesting than the obvious "Look at Me"-Contributions....e.g. mine
Geki-D
Banned
EA is just creation. Full game has SP.
Stop Making Sense
Neo Member
Its EA. It was meant for Creators to begin with. Full Game with StoryMode + "good" Games of Creators are comin' later.
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SonGoku
Member
So its a full meatty campaign not just an afterthought?
Stop Making Sense
Neo Member
Geki-D
Banned
I'm curious how the devs actually gather feedback these days. LPB 1 & 2 had official forums but Official Forums aren't really a thing anymore. I guess we have to directly suggest them stuff on Twitter now? The only real plus side to that is that it would seem MM are open to suggestions.
Seemingly it'll be a full thing.
Stop Making Sense
Neo Member
reddit seems to be a thing... besides the Sony-Mm-Sub. But yeah.. asking myself how they want to get proper Feedback. Maybe with a Survey? Im not
enough to express my thoughts on reddit
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Why do you need to be interested in creating to play games? Odd.
SonGoku
Member
I asked because im not sure whether sp is a full fledged game and not just an afterthought
The way this game is advertised promotes the creation part only
Geki-D
Banned
Are the devs active on Reddit? That's sort of the thing with third party forums; you can suggest stuff as much as you want, but if the devs aren't there it's all pretty pointless. Theoretically with official forums the devs are meant to check them. Though I guess with Reddit being so big, the devs, if they were gonna pay attention to any forum, would chose there.reddit seems to be a thing... besides the Sony-Mm-Sub. But yeah.. asking myself how they want to get proper Feedback. Maybe with a Survey? Im not
Personally I hate Reddit's layout, their boards make no sense to me so I don't post there.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Yeah, but those creations are there to play. I haven't made a single thing during EA but I've been playing a whole lot. Whatever you like, it's there. It's not a game, it's a development suite. But you have access to everything people make with that development suite.
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SonGoku
Member
User made creations are a bonus thing not the main draw for me
Its not my intention to shit on the game, just not for me i guess.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
User creations are the only reason to play Dreams. It's not a bonus, it's the reason Dreams exists. People have had a few weeks to get used to the tools and after a year the games are going to be AA quality.
SonGoku
Member
That's what i feared, user creations don't appeal me.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
So games don't appeal to you? It's a FULLY FLEDGED development suite. What part of that are people not quite getting? It baffles me.
SonGoku
Member
People making these "games" are not professional game designers, just amateur users. Any of those videos you linked dont look anywhere close to full featured games. I rather play one quality indie game than 100 short user projects.
Geki-D
Banned
In his defence, whilst the videos you posted look awesome, can you really call them "games" at this point? Besides a whole load of tech demos, Dreams is lacking actual stuff to play (as in has a beginning, middle & end with goals to achieve) and for someone who really just wants to do that, I can understand that Dreams doesn't seem all that appealing right now.
Of course full games take time to make so they'll come but I can imagine pretty much any person who isn't following Dreams coming in to play stuff, seeing a thousand unfinished levels of varying quality (and let's be honest, generally lower than higher), seeing a bunch of stuff to just look at and saying "That's it"?
Amateurs can make amazing things. The issue is that right now on Dreams there's a tendency to publish stuff that's nowhere near in a state for public consumption when it comes to levels and of course anyone really working on anything you would call a full game is still doing so because it's only been out for a few weeks.
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SonGoku
Member
That's important point to make, Indie devs take years working on their solo projects. Just because you have a development suite doesn't mean you can just press a button and be done. Game creation still takes months if not years.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Marbelous was made in 6 weeks, had 4 levels, had a menu system, selection screen, was great to play and took 45 minutes to an hour to finish.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
But with Dreams it takes far less time. It's why developers are calling it a revolution.
Stop Making Sense
Neo Member
Yeah.. thats a def "problem" right now. Its not a good look from the Outside. As a participant it may make sense... but for a Only-Surfer its not. Partly more of of a boredom.
The whole Folder-Organization needs an Overhaul.
SonGoku
Member
Marbelous (mobile) is not exactly what i have in mind when playing a console game. That Sonic video for example looked cool but the actual gameplay reminded me of bubsy3D .
I can see the appeal for others just not for me.
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Geki-D
Banned
Yes, there are types of games you can make quickly, and the asset share in Dreams help makes things faster. But come on dude, you know that people aren't really looking for small puzzle games and mini games, they're expecting full action adventure, shooter, horror and whatever else games. Stuff with plots, multiple levels, goals and an ending. I know that stuff like that is in the making but it takes way more time.
Yeah, I dabble in creation, I've tried to do some stuff (but I suck), but I'm mostly in it for play and it's been a bit of a pain to find stuff worth playing. The recommended seems to always be the same, the most thumbed up too and going to recent is just soul destroying to know that most games consist of a quarter finished forest levels (why are there so many forests?) where you run forward for about 20 secs doing nothing and then fall off the level and quit out.
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Like the campaign that MM are making? People will better that within the year.
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Geki-D
Banned
That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm saying people need to be patient for the better stuff but I can also recognise that right now the play side isn't all that great.