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Pushing Back on Grievance Studies with Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

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This latest video from documentary film-maker Mike Nayna brings together principals from two other sets of films of his: 2018's Grievance Studies Hoax (Helen Pluckrose, Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay) and the Evergreen College Protests in which Brett Weinstein was literally hunted and made to fear for his safety.


From the YouTube page:
You Tube said:
In an attempt to expose academic fields corrupted by postmodern ideology, Helen Pluckrose, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay spent a year submitting intentionally broken papers to academic journals.

Their secret project was cut short when an investigative journalist from the Wall Street Journal discovered the group had published a paper under a fake name.

In October 2018, with the story set to break within days, the group seeks advice from Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying.

Given that this video claims to be from footage recorded in Oct 2018, it is startlingly prophetic and insightful.

Some choice quotes:
11:30 - Brett Weinstein said:
"The fact is, we're not going to get very far if we don't have a legitimate concept of racism we can invoke where it is necessary. And the point is, as long as it's being used for this other purpose, we're now stuck.

Likewise 'White Supremacy', we're stuck. 'Transphobia', stuck. 'Islamaphobia', stuck. We don't have the substitute terminology to use, and so the point is they've actually successfully hobbled us in discussing real problems that exist in the world by taking all of these terms and weaponising them for their own purposes. "

13:30 - Heather Heying said:
"Students are flocking to these fields because [...] they've [Academia] wrapped up something quite ugly in a very pretty box and put a name on it that sounds beautiful. It's the wrong name, and it's the wrong wrapping - it's ugly inside. But students go to it because they don't know."

On the rephrasing of passages of Mein Kampf for papers submitted for peer review:
15:20 - Peter Boghossian said:
"We took 'Jew'.. we swapped 'Jews' for 'Whites'"

Prophecy:
16:20 - Heather Heying (to Peter Boghossian) said:
"So you're the only one of us with a university position at the moment. And there's four other of us here who have been associated with universities and colleges in the past and are no longer. I don't think that's an accident.

...

Is PSU [Portland State University] going to be OK with this?"

PB: "They will come for me."

HH: "Yeah, I think they will. And they'll weaponise Title IX, they'll weaponise something.."

(They came for him)

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Whilst the Grievance Studies Hoax is eye-opening and has barely any 'real' casualties, the Evergreen College stuff is genuinely chilling.
Mike Nayna has put together a You Tube Playlist as the best way to digest this.
 

DunDunDunpachi

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Grievance Studies are propaganda, because there's no room to disagree with the premise of the curriculum. If you reject the core premise -- that certain arbitrarily-grouped humans are entitled to recompense from other arbitrarily-grouped humans who supposedly wronged them -- then everything else falls apart.
 
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arbitrarily-grouped humans
If we say they are arbitrarily grouped without considering the obvious uses, then we are being ignorant. Criminology, Psychology, and Anthropology all find differences between populations, which means that we can make more accurate, meaningful predictions about nearly everything based upon the grouping we have chosen, we could atomize the groupings smaller and smaller to get slightly more accurate predictions, but we reach a point of diminishing returns eventually. We're all humans, but acknowledging differences gives us the ability to say meaningful things about what is best for society.

As for who deserves reparations, this video makes a decent case for them. Using studies he talks about the value of the labor slaves were compensated, through housing/food etc, versus the uncompensated value of labor. The uncompensated labor after housing and food is considered is what would actually be owed.
 

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If we say they are arbitrarily grouped without considering the obvious uses, then we are being ignorant. Criminology, Psychology, and Anthropology all find differences between populations, which means that we can make more accurate, meaningful predictions about nearly everything based upon the grouping we have chosen, we could atomize the groupings smaller and smaller to get slightly more accurate predictions, but we reach a point of diminishing returns eventually. We're all humans, but acknowledging differences gives us the ability to say meaningful things about what is best for society.

As for who deserves reparations, this video makes a decent case for them. Using studies he talks about the value of the labor slaves were compensated, through housing/food etc, versus the uncompensated value of labor. The uncompensated labor after housing and food is considered is what would actually be owed.

A black man descended from 2 black slave great great grandparents, 3 black non-slave great great grandparents and 3 white slave owner great great grandparents, does he pay reparations or receive them?
 
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Brett Weinstein is the fake leftist who whined that he was being threatened after the black students at Evergreen had the temerity to actually want to process their feelings on race without a paternalistic ally policing their tone nearby. Funny how "liberals" like him suddenly move to the right when their pets don't roll around and jump when told to.
 

DunDunDunpachi

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Brett Weinstein is the fake leftist who whined that he was being threatened after the black students at Evergreen had the temerity to actually want to process their feelings on race without a paternalistic ally policing their tone nearby. Funny how "liberals" like him suddenly move to the right when their pets don't roll around and jump when told to.
Found footage of students wanting "to process their feelings on race":