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Racists Getting Fired
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Atraveller
Banned
They are already a bunch of unapologetic bigots, I don't see why they would change their opinions if no one would do anything about it.
googleplex
Member
Do people really think a racist would treat other employees, or customers of color as good as white employees or customers l? No employer in their right mind would want anyone that used speech like that working for them. Unless the employer share the same views.
No thing wrong with letting their employers what kind of asshole they've hired.
Who the hell cares
It's worse to sit by and let them keep doing it with this whole "boys will be boys" mindset.
Nah, but stupidity is definitely a genetic thing, and most racists are just complete fucking heehaw morons.
tkscz
Member
The "Boys will be boys" mind set is ignoring them because of who they are. I'm not saying ignore them, I'm just saying other repercussions that can come up from doing something like this. Glad everyone assumed I meant do absolutely nothing.
googleplex
Member
Not my problem if they can't sort their shit out. Imagine one of these racist idiots in supervisory position? Imagine if they had a say in hiring or terminations.
No I have absolutely no issues with this.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Poor racist..this seems cruel and unusual. Comfort level decreasing..
Ember Spirit
Banned
employers deserve to know what kind of people their employees are
Yeah? There's always repercussions for actions. For example, them getting fired for their racist actions.
If they want to spiral downward from there, that's their problem. Not ours.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
I'd certainly wanna know.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Them just being fired is far enough in my opinion.
I don't believe this will, in any way, help curb racism. However, it may suggest to some that racism is best kept around the kitchen table and not loudly broadcast over community forums.
It seems that in the past 10-15 years, racists have become more and more bold, and more and more vocal. I would attribute this largely to there being zero consequence for them spouting their BS. If five racists see VATRUCKDRIVER get suspended from work and decide to quiet down a bit, I'd say this is a good thing.
Oh, and any remedial business class will tell you: in the age of social media, your public expressions are of great interest to your employer, and how you conduct yourself outside of work can have a direct effect on your employment. I've no pity for someone having to deal with the consequences of their actions, and I can't agree with the playground/prison mentality that being a tattletale is a bad thing.
It seems that in the past 10-15 years, racists have become more and more bold, and more and more vocal. I would attribute this largely to there being zero consequence for them spouting their BS. If five racists see VATRUCKDRIVER get suspended from work and decide to quiet down a bit, I'd say this is a good thing.
Oh, and any remedial business class will tell you: in the age of social media, your public expressions are of great interest to your employer, and how you conduct yourself outside of work can have a direct effect on your employment. I've no pity for someone having to deal with the consequences of their actions, and I can't agree with the playground/prison mentality that being a tattletale is a bad thing.
maquiladora
Member
You don't think their racist attitudes that are being exposed don't extend to the work that they do? You think these racists treat black people equally in their line of work? They deserved to be fucking fired from any job.
Hot Coldman
Banned
This is assuming we all believe these people deserve rehabilitation.
This is censorship of free speech. Welcome to Obama's America!
I like this. Actions have consequences. I'm not happy about this being done by private citizens though. All other can of worms.
Most of us have registered using accounts given to us by our ISP, University, ... It should be relatively easy to link everyone to their real life name if someone hacked the database. Even regular GAF detective work could expose a lot of us.
Atraveller
Banned
Like what? More circlejerking with their family and friends? One guy was waving Confederate flag, and someone thought it was a good idea and took a picture!
No, they do not.
People deserve to have separation.
If it is not a business website, and they are not posting on their work time and the site does not have business logos on it then no they do not have any right to know.
This kind of thing is a Pandora's Box.
If you are truly stupid enough to say something brazenly racist with your real name attached to said comment, my sympathy could not be lower.
People can get fired for things they do outside of work. For a lot of companies, they view their employees as a representative of the company's brand. Going to twitter and talking about how they want to shoot up Ferguson protestors or the necessity of the KKK in a public setting would usually end in a termination. The same thing would happen if you wrote the same statement to the local newspaper.
People can get fired for things they do outside of work. For a lot of companies, they view their employees as a representative of the company's brand. Going to twitter and talking about how they want to shoot up Ferguson protestors or the necessity of the KKK in a public setting would usually end in a termination. The same thing would happen if you wrote the same statement to the local newspaper.
crimsondynamics
Member
They're basically apologizing not because they feel that what they have done is wrong as much as they are sorry they got caught. Those apologies would not have been made otherwise.
Sorry, but that is not how business operates anymore (or, really, ever). As a business owner, my employees are a reflection of my company. If I hire people who are on good behavior during work hours, but become absolute assholes when they go out for an evening, then that affects my company's reputation. Social media has just placed a megaphone in front of their thoughts so that it's not just the people at the bar hearing their BS, it's an entire community, or, in some cases, the world.
Again, every job out there has an explicitly stated rule that actions on social media can and will affect employment.
As another poster pointed out, what if these people are responsible for the hiring/firing of the working team? What if their job means that they have to interact with different customers? Their jobs give them certain responsibilities, their racist views can impact on these responsibilities so I would think an employer would want to know.
googleplex
Member
Yes they do. If an employee is saying things publicly that will reflect negatively on the employer, they deserve to know. No one is sneaking into their homes and stealing diaries from up under a pillow. These idiots are expressing their shitty racism publicly. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.
Circle Jerk
Member
I honestly dont understand. You want these people to stay racist? Why wouldnt you want people to learn the error of their ways and you know stop hating people based on skin color?
Ventilaator
Banned
I can definitely see how some people would have a problem with this, but holy shit I am so completely not one of those people.
This kind of thing will not change someone's mind, it will only make it worse.
Hate it or not people will have their opinions, let them die off and work harder to educate the younger generations
As far as what most seem to define as "public" we will agree to disagree.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Except no one does, because no one posts under their real name and there's the assumption of anonymity, even if it's possible to figure out who a poster is. These people are posting under public accounts with their real names. It's not really a comparable situation.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Makes me happy. Racists are scum of the earth and deserve it
We currently have a terrible system where basic survival needs are contingent on employment, and where companies do everything possible to scrape up a penny for their shareholders at the expense of payroll and benefits. Hours are cut, wages stay stagnant, and jobs are eliminated. This system needs to change, and America needs to remember that a functioning social safety net is vital to our success. There won't be enough pressure to make this change until enough people are abandoned by this system, and sadly that means even more people are going to have to be struggling.
In light of this, I'm perfectly fucking fine with racist shitheads being at the bottom of that heap. I really do want a basic income for everyone so they can all get the fundamental things they need to live, but until then, if companies can just throw people to the wolves for any reason, being racist is a good one. Racism is the biggest political problem in our country, to the point where racist people are manipulated into voting against their own economic interests, which is the main reason why we've lost so much progress since the New Deal. If things are to change, then racist behavior and attitudes will need to change, and that requires the kind of social pressure we see here. It also requires a lot of repeated discussion and awareness of the unconscious and structural elements of racism, which is why there are so many threads on the subject.
So to those of you who are tired of hearing about it, tough shit. This is our problem, and we need to address it until it is fixed, and it's not going to be fixed for a long time. Racism needs to be pointed out and shamed wherever it occurs, and this is a good example. If capitalists can use racism to prevent us from using our collective governing power to ensure that the disadvantaged are taken care of, then we can use capitalism to make sure racists feel the consequences. Fuck 'em.
In light of this, I'm perfectly fucking fine with racist shitheads being at the bottom of that heap. I really do want a basic income for everyone so they can all get the fundamental things they need to live, but until then, if companies can just throw people to the wolves for any reason, being racist is a good one. Racism is the biggest political problem in our country, to the point where racist people are manipulated into voting against their own economic interests, which is the main reason why we've lost so much progress since the New Deal. If things are to change, then racist behavior and attitudes will need to change, and that requires the kind of social pressure we see here. It also requires a lot of repeated discussion and awareness of the unconscious and structural elements of racism, which is why there are so many threads on the subject.
So to those of you who are tired of hearing about it, tough shit. This is our problem, and we need to address it until it is fixed, and it's not going to be fixed for a long time. Racism needs to be pointed out and shamed wherever it occurs, and this is a good example. If capitalists can use racism to prevent us from using our collective governing power to ensure that the disadvantaged are taken care of, then we can use capitalism to make sure racists feel the consequences. Fuck 'em.
I can agree with that. Racism is one thing but I've heard stories of teachers being fired because there were pictures of them drinking on Facebook. Not getting shit faced mind you. Just drinking.
This is a slippery slope, I feel, because a line has to be drawn regarding what sort of behavior/opinions are a fireable offense. That's where it gets murky for me. I can imagine a situation where a christian boss fires an atheist for posting anti-religious views. At the end of the day, these are all just opinions.
I say all of this yet I completely agree with what's happening in this instance... So I don't know, lol.
Redneck45Rem/VA Truck Driver seemed to post under a fake name. His Twitter seems to be gone so I can't be sure he didn't mention it somewhere else.
CrankyKong
Member
A site dedicated to getting racists fired and thrown into financial hardship.....awesome!
Following this we could abandon any sort of penalty for misbehaviour or crimes which is not just there to keep other people safe from the wrongdoer. Fines and other stuff might not change everyone's mind, but it certainly often helps preventing more wrongdoings. It's also quite pessimistic. People change all the time. There are great organisations which support people from fascist groups to exit or paedophiles to change. It may not be the same as fines or other penalties but still, of course people can change through help and/or punishment.
Phat Michael
Banned
Exactly. That's site is bullshit. People looking to get others fired? Fuck that shit.
If the employee was tweeting about how terrible his company was and how no one should work there or do business with them most people saying this is wrong wouldn't care that they were fired. It wouldn't be news and no one would think twice. But when its negative about an entire race of people suddenly it's not okay.
Well, in this situation what options is there to do other than absolutely nothing?
It's not like these people got SWAT'ed or had bricks thrown at their houses. Their employer was simply notified of their public behavior online.
freeofgreed
Member
Huh? What point are trying to make here? The later is significantly worse then the former...
Atraveller
Banned
That's the point
That is the point. Not sure where you're confused.
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