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diffusionx
Gold Member
AMD GPUs were revitalized after he left. This guy sucks at his job. Hope Intel finds someone more competent to lead this business.
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winjer
Gold Member
Like a wreaking ball.
winjer
Gold Member
No. Intel's Battlemage is still on development.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm sure he's a smart dude, but his track record isn't the best. Cutting edge tech needs people who are not just smart but more than that.
nowhat
Member
Arc. There's nothing lackluster about Arch.
(and why yes, I do run Arch Linux, I think I'm contractually obliged to mention that)
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Wicked witch.
Intel basically can't afford his vision, it's wasted on their side ,not him, I don't think he's in a bad shape, it's just intel being intel.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
LordOfChaos
Member
I actually hope Intel doesn't give up on gaming dedicated GPUs and keeps trying for several more architectures. It's ironic because the company is Intel, but the duopoly is going to end up with $2000 GPUs with 12GB VRAM. The first one didn't light the world on fire but that's fine, just keep trying, make it a long term strategic goal.
Unknown Soldier
Member
LMAO Raja ruins everything he touches, Lisa Su cut him loose but Intel was desperate. Turns out desperation doesn't result in good things.
bender
What time is it?
Please no. You don't want him at AMD.
VolticArchangel
Member
This clown was the reason for the massive fuckup between Polaris and Vega timeline. Never forget.
Intel didn't just dodge a bullet, but a freaking nuke. Good riddance.
Intel didn't just dodge a bullet, but a freaking nuke. Good riddance.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Glad to see people recognize what a joke this guy is. I do hope that Intel continues to make GPUs. Hire away more of nvidias engineers.
PeteBull
Member
GymWolf
Member
supernova8
Banned
Arc itself doesn't even seem that bad at the right price. Sure the drivers are all over the place but the team seems to have made major improvements over the last 2 or 3 months.
www.tomshardware.com
Plus, while we cannot get the whole picture, it does appear that Intel has managed to sell a decent number of Arc GPUs even after the hopeless (delayed, confusing) marketing push, shit pricing at first, and shitty drivers at launch.
I get the impression that if they launched Arc GPUs about 10 years earlier (before AMD started actually competing in the CPU space), they would have still had the financial capacity to take the hit associated with selling Arc GPUs cheap (even at or below cost) to gain more traction and win mindshare. Instead we have a situation where Intel's GPUs are just making AMD look good.
Intel Looks to Be Catching Up with AMD's Discrete GPU Market Share
Nvidia predictably retains the discrete GPU crown in Q4 2022.
Plus, while we cannot get the whole picture, it does appear that Intel has managed to sell a decent number of Arc GPUs even after the hopeless (delayed, confusing) marketing push, shit pricing at first, and shitty drivers at launch.
I get the impression that if they launched Arc GPUs about 10 years earlier (before AMD started actually competing in the CPU space), they would have still had the financial capacity to take the hit associated with selling Arc GPUs cheap (even at or below cost) to gain more traction and win mindshare. Instead we have a situation where Intel's GPUs are just making AMD look good.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It looks like the Arc GPUs have been getting a lot better with driver updates, and the price is excellent.
I’m more excited to see what Intel brings in the future, versus AMD and Nvidia.
Engineer ceos are actually the ones who ruins everything, no one should hire an engineer as a ceo.
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I think the A750 at $230 is very, very close to becoming an excellent value card. The hardware is clearly better than the AMD offerings in the price range (~6600 XT) the software just has to improve a little bit more.
winjer
Gold Member
In tech companies it's the opposite. For example, Intel for decades had engineers as CEOs.
Then they decided to hire non-engineers as CEOs. And when Brian Krzanich took over, that is when Intel's decline went into full gear, as he focused on immediate profits through stock manipulation, and reducing research investments to single-digit percentages of revenue.
The damage he did to Intel is still felt to this day, so no wonder Pat Geisinger pointed the finger at him.
Business guys do things the dirty way , science guys have broader vision than both , engineers are at the moment, better at handling bad situations instantly.
winjer
Gold Member
Raja Koduri Joins Tenstorrent Board: AI and RISC-V Solutions Set to Compete with Intel
Tenstorrent recently announced the appointment of Raja Koduri to its board of directors. The company, comprising former AMD, ATI, and Intel employees, is focused on developing high-performance Artific...
And so it starts the end of Tenstorrent.....
ToTTenTranz
Banned
AMD's R&D budget for the graphics division was ridiculously low while he was running.
winjer
Gold Member
But on Intel he had a big budget and several ex-engineers from AMD and NVidia, and still he underperformed.
SantaC
Member
Doesnt explain why he sucked at apple and intel
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Up until last year there were only two companies in the whole world doing high-performance discrete GPUs. The amount of IP and expertise on hardware and software needed to get in that market is such that all the other companies that tried it were pushed away, and there were a lot of those 2 decades ago: 3dfx, Matrox, Imagination/PowerVR, VIA/S3, XGI, 3DLabs. And I'm only naming the ones that got to the point of launching products in the market, because there were a bunch who cancelled their products and closed down during development.
Pretty much all of them struggled with windows and linux drivers that supported millions of hardware combinations, as well as scaling up / widening GPU resources where interconnects and caches become more complex and important.
There's a bunch of companies making tiny embedded GPUs for mobile devices. There were only two making large discrete GPUs for PCs, and now there are three.
Intel's 1st gen Arc was never going to win big on their first try, and whomever thought otherwise had pretty unrealistic expectations.
AFAIK Raja didn't suck at apple. He was pretty much responsible for apple's SoCs getting beefy iGPUs from PowerVR with adequate bandwidth which enabled the iPhone and iPad to get unparalleled UI fluidity and gaming performance until well after he left for AMD in 2013.
winjer
Gold Member
Intel is not new to GPUs. They have been making tem since the 90s.
Even today, Intel is the company that ships the most GPUs, thanks to it's integrated parts. Intel is not new to producing GPUs and drivers.
They may not have been competing at the mid and low end, but they have the majority of the entry level
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Intel isn't new to GPUs and neither is Imagination, Vivante, ARM or Broadcom. All of those make successful smaller integrated GPUs, but none of them make large / wide discrete GPUs that need to work across millions of combinations with different operating systems, CPU architectures, motherboards, RAM, drivers, quickly changing APIs and API features, etc.
When it comes to small integrated GPUs that only work in a SoC with one CPU architecture and memory configuration, even a tiny ASIC company that no one heard of before can make it work.
No one really knows if Raja really failed because no one except a handful of people knew his key performance indicators for 1st-gen Arc.
Does Arc underperform in terms of die-area / performance and power / performance when compared to the latest GPU architectures by AMD and Nvidia? Of course it does.
Was it realistic to expect otherwise, and have the 1st-gen Arc GPUs beat the accumulated know-how of two decades of thousands of engineers dedicated to high performance GPUs and their drivers, not to mention a vast network of developer relations that leads to specific performance optimizations on most games before launch? No, it was not.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Tensisters... it's over before it started...
Raja Koduri Joins Tenstorrent Board: AI and RISC-V Solutions Set to Compete with Intel
Tenstorrent recently announced the appointment of Raja Koduri to its board of directors. The company, comprising former AMD, ATI, and Intel employees, is focused on developing high-performance Artific...www.guru3d.com
And so it starts the end of Tenstorrent.....
winjer
Gold Member
Intel's GPU Division AXG Gets A New Boss: Deepak Patil
Intel has found a replacement for Raja Koduri for its GPU division in Deepak Patil. Previously serving as the CTO of Data Center and AI at Intel, he will be leading one of the most tumultuous and heavily scrutinized business units at Intel. AXG is also the most ambitious and building on the...
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Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
I have a rig with an arc 770 in it. Fantastic performance 1140p max settings in most everything I play on it.
(PoE, Elden Ring, D4 Beta, RE 4 Remake) they all run great. Great card imo especially given the price you can snag them at.
(PoE, Elden Ring, D4 Beta, RE 4 Remake) they all run great. Great card imo especially given the price you can snag them at.
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