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Rambo V: Last Blood OFFICIAL Trailer (different to the Cannes version)
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kunonabi
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Yeah I wouldn't expect this to be up her alley. Does she whine about him killing Mexicans like every other review?
Screamer-RSA
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Her very first sentence called it overly violent racist and mysogynistic. I stopped watching after that
captainraincoat
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Yeah it felt really off pacing wise.
Not a bad film but not a great one also
kunonabi
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Her very first sentence called it overly violent racist and mysogynistic. I stopped watching after that
I'm sure if they had race bent Rambo she would have loved it.
LMJ
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The reviews thus far just prove that these so called reviewers are so out of touch with the average person that it's just pathetic...
I've read 3 and watched 4 and almost every single one of them whines and moans about so called misogyny, racism and violence We are truly living in clown world when people are upset about violence In a freaking Rambo film lol
I've read 3 and watched 4 and almost every single one of them whines and moans about so called misogyny, racism and violence We are truly living in clown world when people are upset about violence In a freaking Rambo film lol
MayauMiao
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How is the gore when compared to Rambo 2008?
Guardian gave it a 1 star.
I think I will actually go see this in a theater now.
theguardian.com
I think I will actually go see this in a theater now.
Rambo: Last Blood review – Stallone storms Mexico in a laughable Trumpian fantasy
The grizzled warrior dusts off his crossbow to take revenge on sex traffickers in a creaking, cringeworthy fifth instalment
theguardian.com
kunonabi
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Just got back from it. As a standalone action flick it delivers the goods. As an actual Rambo film it's kind of weak and really isn't nearly as good an endpoint as Rambo was. Totally worth seeing for the action though.
Fun fact: My whole auditorium was Mexican aside from myself and the annoying Russian guys sitting next to me and everyone seemed to have a blast. That reminds me of a great moment when Rocky Balboa came out. I saw it opening night and when Paulie made the crack about Italian food cooked by Mexicans everyone burst out laughing and cheering and this one guy yelled " You damn right!"
Fun fact: My whole auditorium was Mexican aside from myself and the annoying Russian guys sitting next to me and everyone seemed to have a blast. That reminds me of a great moment when Rocky Balboa came out. I saw it opening night and when Paulie made the crack about Italian food cooked by Mexicans everyone burst out laughing and cheering and this one guy yelled " You damn right!"
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Stuart360
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Very gory kills. Obviously not as gory as Rambo 2008 as there is no 50Cal machine gun destroying people, but there are still a lot of gore. Heads being shot off with shotguns, explosions blowing people apart etc.
strange headache
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Guardian gave it a 1 star.
I think I will actually go see this in a theater now.
Rambo: Last Blood review – Stallone storms Mexico in a laughable Trumpian fantasy
The grizzled warrior dusts off his crossbow to take revenge on sex traffickers in a creaking, cringeworthy fifth instalment
This review is so dumb, it's honestly the best advertisement for Trump.
If I can't enjoy a Rambo movie as a lefty anymore, guess I'll have to become republican.
kunonabi
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The crazy thing is Rambo has never been super jingoistic and nationalistic not even in this one. The closest it gets is First Blood 2 and even then the government is still part of the problem.
These people are working backward from a conclusion based on nothing but preconceived notions.
These people are working backward from a conclusion based on nothing but preconceived notions.
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strange headache
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Indeed, Rambo always had a decisive anti-war message, especially First Blood.
I mean, I'd much prefer if my left-leaning friends would remove their sticks from their bums and simply let a good action flick be a good action flick, but if push comes to shove... I'll stick with Rambo. Ain't nobody gonna take away my silly love for 80s action flicks, where men could still be manly men and impale mustachioed net-shirt wearing baddies with steam-pipes. Frikkin' hell, leftist media critique has just become so utterly miserable and pitiful.
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GV82
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Ltto: this is a stupid question I’m watching Rambo (4) for the first time (is the footage at the start of the movie real war stock footage or is it made for the film? The very first thing that pops up on screen?) If it is real war footage it was kind of crazy to see real dead bodies footage onscreen then 
kunonabi
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Ltto: this is a stupid question I’m watching Rambo (4) for the first time (is the footage at the start of the movie real war stock footage or is it made for the film? The very first thing that pops up on screen?) If it is real war footage it was kind of crazy to see real dead bodies footage onscreen then
It's real footage.
GV82
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Damn this movie is brutal
kunonabi
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Yeah, Stallone really wanted to shine a light on how bad things are there since the mainstream media rarely discuss it.
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Hate Angry Joe reviewing movies.
Cleared_Hot
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So weird this is the movie he went with when the Creed sequels were still fucking well done
I mean they literally started the franchise with shitty white guys as the villains... So what's their problem? Rambo gives everyone a chance to be killed
Dontero
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I thought it will be bad judging by premise but since SJWs are up in arms about it, it seems like it will be good movie in the end.
Also love how they talk about bad potrayal of Mexico like mexico doesn't actually have fucking army on street today and thousand of dead due to cartel wars and gov wars with cartels.
Also love how they talk about bad potrayal of Mexico like mexico doesn't actually have fucking army on street today and thousand of dead due to cartel wars and gov wars with cartels.
PPIMystaceus
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Saw it last night, thought it was pretty great, very brutal. Maybe not the greatest film, or the greatest Rambo film, but it was very entertaining. I got some Home Alone vibes from the ending too, which I didn't expect.
SirKicksalot
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Man this movie was fucking awesome. The lengthy exposition was worth it because holy fuck what a payoff lmao
kunonabi
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So apparently the reason the movie feels so truncated is because the studio chopped off like 12 minutes right before release. Several territories still got the complete version but I think the US and UK did not.
I thought it would have been from the 2nd act but apparently it was from the opening of the film with Rambo involved in some sort of rescue operation during a hurricane.
I thought it would have been from the 2nd act but apparently it was from the opening of the film with Rambo involved in some sort of rescue operation during a hurricane.
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mcjmetroid
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So.. what's with this word "trumpian" they're often using in the reviews.
Video on it here.
Video on it here.
Airola
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My favorites are First Blood and 08, and this was really good.
It's a vigilante movie with a hint of the survival aspect of First Blood and quite a bit of the brutality of 08. It's not like Rambo 2 or 3 at all. And it was really well made. It's a revenge fantasy and it doesn't apologize that at all.
I really liked it but it could've been better if the bad guys would've been shown to be even more cruel. In its current state what it shows Rambo doing to the villains is overboard comparing to what they show the villains do to their victims. A lot of what the villains do are only implied so it feels like they shy away a bit from showing their cruelty but they show what Rambo shows no holds barred. You kinda have to know what the worst Mexican drug and sex trafficing criminals have done in real life to really appreciate the revenge fantasy. That's the only criticism I have for the movie. Other than that it was a blast. I even shed a couple of tears for both reacting to sad things and vengeful things.
SirKicksalot
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The opening rescue is perfect IMO. It's basically a short movie that says a lot about where the character is 10 years after returning to America. It affects him throughout the movie. Cutting it is stupid.
kunonabi
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I don't know where any of the Trump stuff is coming from. The movie kind of highlights how ineffective the border is but that's about it.
Rambo 08 showed how terrible the villains were in more detail but there were fewer personal stakes so it was a little more necessary there. I think Last Blood is also trying to show that Rambo is just as messed up as those he kills. When he talks about the evil in man he's including himself in that.
I do agree that fleshing the villains out a bit wouldn't have hurt though.
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Airola
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Yeah, this was one of the reasons I really liked the movie. There's zero apologies, only brutal honesty.
SirKicksalot
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For some reason I found these villains very easy to hate, even more than the guys in the previous movie.
I think one of the henchmen was in Apocalypto.
I think one of the henchmen was in Apocalypto.
Airola
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It was REALLY nasty at some points. There's less gore than in 08 but the violence feels more sadistic. It's a mix of 80's slasher kills and those parts of 08 where the violence was more personal (like in the throat ripping scene of 08). My gf counted there were 27 kills in the finale. I don't remember how many there were before that. There are two particularly nasty scenes.
kunonabi
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Best part was the people sitting on right in the theatre was a nuclear family with a dad, mom, teen daughter, and preteen son. I dont think the kids had any idea what was coming but they sure enjoyed it.
Explosive Zombie
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Why would anyone need more proof the dudes who use women as sex slaves and dope them up until they overdose are bad? Like what the actual fuck. It shies away from showing violence done to them because it doesn't want you masturbating to such violence, the violence you see mostly is the violence they are glorifying, and they don't want to glorify the abuse of innocents.
Anyways, fantastic movie, perfect franchise... the best action franchise?
Anyways, fantastic movie, perfect franchise... the best action franchise?
Cleared_Hot
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The left is adamant that literally anything bad about actual bad people is "trumpian" misogynistic racism
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BTW where did you guys hear other regions get a 12 minute longer cut?
kunonabi
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I heard about it at blu-ray.com and sirkicksalot appears to have seen the full cut himself.
Edit: a bit more context for the cut opening
How ‘Rambo: Last Blood’ Writer Wove in His Own PTSD and Tragic Personal Loss
In telling the fifth story of the Rambo franchise, co-writer Dan Gordon drew from his own wartime experiences as well as the tragic loss of his son to craft an emotional throughline into the veteran action hero's tale.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
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Dirk Benedict
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I thought it was pretty good. I've been following the Cartels for quite a few years and felt it was somewhat accurate on how they are portrayed. I don't see how it was racist.
Anyone here who's watched it already knows WHY this isn't racist. Don't want to spoil anything. SJWs should just chew on a dick rather than give a verbal review on Youtube, as they are more suited for that line of work, rather than giving a genuine opinion on movie that couldn't be yanked from the depths of their own ass.
Anyone here who's watched it already knows WHY this isn't racist. Don't want to spoil anything. SJWs should just chew on a dick rather than give a verbal review on Youtube, as they are more suited for that line of work, rather than giving a genuine opinion on movie that couldn't be yanked from the depths of their own ass.
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SirKicksalot
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Alternate opening spoilers:
A rescue operation during a heavy storm in the mountains at night. The rescuers are called off because a flash flood is approaching. Someone asks where's that guy with the horse.
Cut to Rambo looking all cool with a hat on the horse. He finds a dead woman. Pushes forward and finds a guy and another women, tells them to get on the horse. Guy asks about his wife, Rambo says he found her dead. Guy runs off to find her despite Rambo warning him.
The flash flood barrels down the mountain towards Rambo and the girl. He ties the horse to a rock, then ties himself and the girl to another one, facing the opposite direction to the flood. They're covered by water - cut to the rescuers and Sheriff.
A body is.loaded in an ambulance. Rambo arrives with the horse and the woman, has a short talk with the Sheriff about the guy. The guy is one of those dead bodies. Sheriff says Rambo tried to save him, Rambo mournfully agrees.
Some other guy talks to the Sheriff about Rambo, Sheriff delivers exposition: Vietnam did a number on him, he keeps to himself but sometimes volunteers for search and rescue because he's one hell of a tracker.
The context of that entire first act is informed by the rescue operation. It's a weight on Rambo's shoulder. I think there's a short flashback to it (or at least he remembers.some.lines) but I'm not sure.
I can't imagine the movie without it... It sets up the character really well, even without the Sheriff's exposition dump. Some of what Rambo says about the world echoes those events. There's an obvious parallel between the dead guy and the going to Mexico talk. I guess he sounds like a grumpy old man in the American version, but in my version all that stuff about learning the truth later was clearly meant to reference the opening.
Cut to Rambo looking all cool with a hat on the horse. He finds a dead woman. Pushes forward and finds a guy and another women, tells them to get on the horse. Guy asks about his wife, Rambo says he found her dead. Guy runs off to find her despite Rambo warning him.
The flash flood barrels down the mountain towards Rambo and the girl. He ties the horse to a rock, then ties himself and the girl to another one, facing the opposite direction to the flood. They're covered by water - cut to the rescuers and Sheriff.
A body is.loaded in an ambulance. Rambo arrives with the horse and the woman, has a short talk with the Sheriff about the guy. The guy is one of those dead bodies. Sheriff says Rambo tried to save him, Rambo mournfully agrees.
Some other guy talks to the Sheriff about Rambo, Sheriff delivers exposition: Vietnam did a number on him, he keeps to himself but sometimes volunteers for search and rescue because he's one hell of a tracker.
The context of that entire first act is informed by the rescue operation. It's a weight on Rambo's shoulder. I think there's a short flashback to it (or at least he remembers.some.lines) but I'm not sure.
I can't imagine the movie without it... It sets up the character really well, even without the Sheriff's exposition dump. Some of what Rambo says about the world echoes those events. There's an obvious parallel between the dead guy and the going to Mexico talk. I guess he sounds like a grumpy old man in the American version, but in my version all that stuff about learning the truth later was clearly meant to reference the opening.
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Airola
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I can't tell what others think but for me a revenge fantasy works the best the more you know about the details of what should be avenged.
The more horrible things a bad guy has done, the more cathartic it is to see that bad guy getting beaten up.
I don't understand that masturbation comment. I didn't watch the film to laugh at all the violence Rambo did or to glorify it.
The thing is that we know what terrifying things Mexican cartels are doing in real life. It is way worse than what was shown in this movie. What they do in real life is more in line with what Rambo did in this movie.
Now that said, I think that not showing it works thematically pretty well. Rambo is in a mission of revenge. He hasn't actually seen much at all of what the bad guys do. He doesn't know it in detail. He just cares for the girl he feels is like a daughter to him. Rambo doesn't know the actual details but chooses to go beyond "eye for an eye" and wants to kill them as savagely as possible and sometimes physically and emotionally as sadistically as possible just to show them how he is feeling. So to make us think about the concept of revenge more deeply it can be good for the story to not show too much of what Rambo is avenging because Rambo himself doesn't know that much either.
But still, for me, seeing someone having a revenge for something is more effective if more is known about the bad things that might deserve a revenge. For example in the movie Wolf Creek I wouldn't have hated the bad guy as much as I did if they wouldn't have shown the horribly mutilated corpse and shown the bad guy tell in detail what terrifying fate waits for the girl he just caught.
In real life I wouldn't feel as much hate towards drug cartels if I only vaguely knew that they do some bad things somewhere. But the more I read about what they have actually done, the more it feels someone should go all rambo on them. So for a revenge movie it would've been more effective if they'd made the bad guys look even worse by either showing them doing worse things or showing the girls getting even worse treatment. Don't get me wrong, what they showed was very bad already. I'm just saying I would've felt Rambo's certain super sadistic actions more justified if they had gone just as much all the way with the actions of the bad guys too.
Not that it breaks the movie. I loved it and thought it was fantastic. But one way for it to be even better for me would've been if the violence by Rambo would've been a bit better balanced with what the bad guys did. But then again as I mentioned above, if one of the movie's purpose was to also comment on the concept of revenge and let Rambo be a man with broken soul whose mind is torn by war and whose actions shouldn't be completely glorified, showing more of the cartel's victims might hurt that purpose.