What kind of logic is this. If Dark Souls 4 came out at 30fps I would not buy it. Some people have higher/lower standards of what to expect and that is fine either way.
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Ratchet & Clank: PS4 Pro Update details
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What kind of logic is this. If Dark Souls 4 came out at 30fps I would not buy it. Some people have higher/lower standards of what to expect and that is fine either way.
What if the responsiveness of the gameplay is part of why they're a huge fan?
I tried the demo for the new one once and just it wasn't the same to me. It made me want to just play the ps2 games again instead.
Uh.
So you don't play any Souls game then?
Because aside from DS2 on PS4, none are 60fps.
I think we have a differing opinion of what constitutes as a huge fan.
Unknown?
Member
A huge fan of something will buy into that brand no matter what. It's why so many people didn't care how terrible Xbox One was before and post launch. It's why fans of a particular sports team still support that team even if they lose all of their talent, etc. Fan /=/ huge fan.
thelastword
Banned
And you wonder why they couldn't put this AA in the PS4 version in the first place. I mean why wouldn't you want to properly anti-aliase a ratchet game from the outset....IQ in such games make them look so much better when implemented. (games going for the cg look or artstyle)...SMH every time I see a bad IQ insomniac game.
while working on the Pro patch they decided to implement some the of the stuff they've learned while working on Spider-Man
You've never played Demon's or BB period? Your missing out on goodness.
I just can't relate to the 60fps or bust mentality at all, so its hard to empathize, but if you've got the hardware, i don't see why anyone wouldn't run the games at 60fps if they could
Because they didn't make it yet?
HDR in this game is absolutely amazing, I definitely felt the impact of HDR in Infamous First Light but in Ratchet it's honestly a night and day difference (that volcano stage...Gaspar? Something like that...amazing).
Do it guys, try it!
Do it guys, try it!
I think the game was designed at 30fps in mind with the density of all the scenes. As much as I prefer 60, it's not really impactful here. The Souls comparison isn't apt. Having played through all of them, particularly DS3 many times on both PS4 and PC, the extra frames make a substantial difference in roll timing and hit accuracy from your inputs on PC over PS4 in most encounters. Having R&C in 60fps would look and feel great but the gameplay is incredibly forgiving in comparison.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Dodging and combat precision are key elements of action platformers like Ratchet.
The extra frames make a substantial difference there, too.
BigEmil
Junior Member
The Pro will bring out the finer details in everything and stand out
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
If I didn't already platinum this game, I would be playing it all the way through all over again after i pick my Pro up Thursday!!!!
visiblemode
Member
This, for the millionth time.
60 is better. Flat out better. However devs get so much ROI for effects and IQ that most of them will choose that over FPS every time. Is simple really.
Anyway, the game looks even more incredible than it did before. Tempted to replay.
CyberPunked
Member
Those ~4K screenshots look amazing.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
And they'd get an even larger ROI if they let players choose between the two.
Even simpler.
Broken Hope
Member
Games are already taking longer to make and are more expensive and you want to increase both the cost and time to make?
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
I think Gaspar impressed me the least, because apart from the few inside/underground parts, there's a very constant, bright steamy red haze while other planets provide much more contrast in brightness and colour.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Sure.
eso76
Member
This game looks glorious post patch on regular PS4.
Sharp and almost 100% aliasing free, looks a lot better than it used to, which is saying a lot.
I understand the disappointment over no 60fps ps4 pro mode, but the game is developed around 30fps and plays perfectly fine.
Spiderman licence couldn't be in better hands
Sharp and almost 100% aliasing free, looks a lot better than it used to, which is saying a lot.
I understand the disappointment over no 60fps ps4 pro mode, but the game is developed around 30fps and plays perfectly fine.
Spiderman licence couldn't be in better hands
Broken Hope
Member
To appease probably less than 1% of their potential customers?
Can't see it happening.
you have to just ignore that guy, he has been relentless about this subject in several Pro threads for days
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
I'd love to see how you arrived at that number.
Cartoony style doesn't mean it doesn't require horsepower to create the visuals you see on screen.
Unknown?
Member
2/10. It'll fool some users, but I see what you did there!
Naw I think he's just convinced himself the PS4 Pro sucks, I don't even think he's doing the "lol people don't read my post properly" gag.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
AlexFlame116
Member
Man he's still at it?! Come on seriously?!
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Does cartoony mean it somehow doesn't require hardware resources to put the image on the screen? I had no idea.
Why didn't wind waker run at 120fps on GameCube?? Wtf...
Coolbgdog12
Member
You guys are STILL responding to Ghost? LOL
iHaunter
Member
Prove me wrong, I was pretty excited for the PS4 Pro when it was initially announced..
But with everything I constantly read about it, there's nothing special really, the pros seem to be so minor for the cost increase.
Maybe I can Ebay my PS4 since it's the original Destiny PS4. Trading it in for only $150 isn't big enough atm.
Prove me wrong, I don't mind being proven wrong as long I get the correct information.
Edit: To respond to Ghost. The whole point is 4K right? It can't run these on native 4K. I did see a list of games where I can, but it's pretty scarce so far.
Edit2: To me it's like the difference between my 3DSXL and the "New" 3DSXL. Slight minor enhancements for double the price. Still have my old 3DS and see no point in upgrading for an 8-12% HW increase.
Broken Hope
Member
Except the Pro is way more than a 8-12% HW increase and will actually benefit more than like 2 games.
iHaunter
Member
Never said it was 8-12% between PS4 Pro and the PS4, was talking about the 3DS as a general parallel example; "Minor" increase was the point, not a direct % comparison.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
DJ Lushious
Member
For those that have beaten R&C (even Platting it), how long would you say the game is? A guesstimate is good enough, of course.
I now have three PS4 Pro compatible games that I won't touch their SP campaign until I have the system in my hands: Ratchet and Clank, Rise of the Tomb Raider, or CoD: Infinite Warfare.
Decisions!
I now have three PS4 Pro compatible games that I won't touch their SP campaign until I have the system in my hands: Ratchet and Clank, Rise of the Tomb Raider, or CoD: Infinite Warfare.
Decisions!
It's quick, maybe 9-12 hours on your first playthrough? That may be low-balling it. 12-15? I honestly can't remember.
Edit: it's designed for at least one challenge mode (ng+) playthrough if you want to level all of your shit.
AlexFlame116
Member
If you really want to play this way here is some advice:Some advice:
It's 30 FPS. The likelihood of them changing it now is not high at all and besides you already said you're not buying it so just let others enjoy this.
but in the end it's up to you and arguing with you isn't going to help anything anyway so I guess agree to disagree.
CyberChulo
Member
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
We have this in common.iHaunter said:
iHaunter said:
The whole point of PS4Pro is giving consumers choice.
The machine can provide different modes. A developer choosing not to use them is their fault, not the machine's.
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Always-honest
Banned
Lol...
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
The game is 30fps in all modes. Insomniac don't make 60fps games anymore.
There is no 60fps. The game only runs at 30, it was designed that way from the ground up.
And there is no enhanced 1080 mode.
If you're playing at 1080 then the game runs at 30 fps while rendering internally at (I think, but not 100%) native 4k and then downsample to hell.
Tarkus
Member
Thanks guys. Buying the game "for my daughter." *Hint: That's how you get away with buying a new game along with a new $400 system when you're married with children.