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Red Dead Redemption 2 PC [OT] - “Vengeance is an idiot's game”

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So I'm right on the verge of buying a new graphics card for this game. From a performance to price ratio in the range I'm looking (400-500), it seems that the RTX 2070 Super is the best pick. Do any of you guys have this card, or do your recommend something different?
 
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So I'm right on the verge of buying a new graphics card for this game. From a performance to price ratio in the range I'm looking (400-500), it seems that the RTX 2070 Super is the best pick. Do any of you guys have this card, or do your recommend something different?
Looks good just don't do SLI or you'll be getting headaches from all the crashing.
 
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I gave up on this game on PS4. The combination of 30 fps, heavy motion blur and vaseline filter was unbearable to me. And i always felt i was spending too much time on horseback moving from A to B just to have a few minutes of meaningful action. I loved the setting, story and characters though.

I double dipped on PC as i usually do. And... Now i love the game. Higher framerate, fov slider. Man, i love this stuff. And i could actually see what was i shooting at.
But the game was pretty much broken at first. I could barely play it. Constant crashes at startup. But it's better now. Though it still crashes from time to time.

Let me talk about the things i still hate about the game first. The control scheme, aim assist and mission design.

Aim assist and control layout are completely archaic. It's like Rockstar's being frozen in 2010. Aim assist is snap to target or nothing at all. I tried to find the sweet spot but i just couldn't.

I would completely rework the control scheme if i could. D-pad is mostly wasted. No way to quickly switch weapons. Schizophrenic context buttons. Sometimes you interact with (xbox controller) X, sometimes it's Y, sometimes it's R2. Too much reliance on weapon/item wheel.
Movement is clunky. Sometimes when i press against cover Arthur will climb over it and awkwardly get shot. And what the fuck is this shit of having to keep pressing A to run. Yeah, i know you can change it to toggle with L3. But it shouldn't be a thing in the first place. If you could watch me playing you'd see me constantly yelling at Arthur. "What the fuck are you doing?!?"

The game often switches your weapons or force you to use ones you don't want. In one mission i was using a pump action shotgun. Then Dutch threw me a double barrel shotgun and it replaced my pump action one. It was overwriten.
I spend money customizing my weapons just to find mid mission that the game replaced it with a cattleman revolver.

Mission design is too restrictive. In one mission i had to kill this beast. I brought my rifle. But if i tried to use it i'd immediately fail. Game forced me to use a revolver instead. In another mission i had to kill this nasty wolf. But if you shoot it before it's appropriate you do no damage.

I still spend a long time crossing the map on my horse. But my mindset changed a little. I'll camp, hunt, rob people or explore instead of making a bee line to my next objective. BUT i still wish fast travel was more convenient.

I really want to see how the story ends. I remember the names of every character and their stories. Rockstar made a damn good job making them all feel alive.

I don't know what else to say. RDR2 is the worst GOTY i've ever played. It's an amazing game. Production value through the roof. But it has some annoying flaws.
 

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> RDR2 is the worst GOTY i've ever played. It's an amazing game.

I completely agree. Rockstar is fascinating.
 
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Finished chapter 6 last night.

RIP Arthur Morgan
He was a good man.

What a journey.

Post chapter 6

It's weird how you can continue stranger quests years later with John as if he's always been there. Met the two brothers competing over a lady, and they even called John by name. I know it's a game but my immersion suffers.
 

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I gave up on this game on PS4. The combination of 30 fps, heavy motion blur and vaseline filter was unbearable to me. And i always felt i was spending too much time on horseback moving from A to B just to have a few minutes of meaningful action. I loved the setting, story and characters though.

I double dipped on PC as i usually do. And... Now i love the game. Higher framerate, fov slider. Man, i love this stuff. And i could actually see what was i shooting at.
But the game was pretty much broken at first. I could barely play it. Constant crashes at startup. But it's better now. Though it still crashes from time to time.

Let me talk about the things i still hate about the game first. The control scheme, aim assist and mission design.

Aim assist and control layout are completely archaic. It's like Rockstar's being frozen in 2010. Aim assist is snap to target or nothing at all. I tried to find the sweet spot but i just couldn't.

I would completely rework the control scheme if i could. D-pad is mostly wasted. No way to quickly switch weapons. Schizophrenic context buttons. Sometimes you interact with (xbox controller) X, sometimes it's Y, sometimes it's R2. Too much reliance on weapon/item wheel.
Movement is clunky. Sometimes when i press against cover Arthur will climb over it and awkwardly get shot. And what the fuck is this shit of having to keep pressing A to run. Yeah, i know you can change it to toggle with L3. But it shouldn't be a thing in the first place. If you could watch me playing you'd see me constantly yelling at Arthur. "What the fuck are you doing?!?"

The game often switches your weapons or force you to use ones you don't want. In one mission i was using a pump action shotgun. Then Dutch threw me a double barrel shotgun and it replaced my pump action one. It was overwriten.
I spend money customizing my weapons just to find mid mission that the game replaced it with a cattleman revolver.

Mission design is too restrictive. In one mission i had to kill this beast. I brought my rifle. But if i tried to use it i'd immediately fail. Game forced me to use a revolver instead. In another mission i had to kill this nasty wolf. But if you shoot it before it's appropriate you do no damage.

I still spend a long time crossing the map on my horse. But my mindset changed a little. I'll camp, hunt, rob people or explore instead of making a bee line to my next objective. BUT i still wish fast travel was more convenient.

I really want to see how the story ends. I remember the names of every character and their stories. Rockstar made a damn good job making them all feel alive.

I don't know what else to say. RDR2 is the worst GOTY i've ever played. It's an amazing game. Production value through the roof. But it has some annoying flaws.
Sounds like you’ve got a bad case of the hyperboles there.
Love. Hate. lots of passion. But the game is about Story not gameplay, so criticising it for things it’s not trying to achieve isn’t exactly fair. I understand your complaints about mission design being restrictive, but given that the rest of the game is very free, I think that is a fair price to pay. But I don’t really understand the vitriol.

Game works like this — Do whatever the hell you want, delve into the story whichever way you want, but when you play the missions, play them out the way the story forces you too — as It‘a a small price to pay.

... And strangely realistic. I certainly live my life that way. — I’m free, but when I work I try and do what I’m told Or pay the price, so it feels believable to me.
It;s a superb game— As long as you don’t try and play it as a shoot em up, One or the only games I’ve played that genuinely puts story ahead of the action.
 

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Sounds like you’ve got a bad case of the hyperboles there.
Love. Hate. lots of passion. But the game is about Story not gameplay, so criticising it for things it’s not trying to achieve isn’t exactly fair. I understand your complaints about mission design being restrictive, but given that the rest of the game is very free, I think that is a fair price to pay. But I don’t really understand the vitriol.

Game works like this — Do whatever the hell you want, delve into the story whichever way you want, but when you play the missions, play them out the way the story forces you too — as It‘a a small price to pay.

... And strangely realistic. I certainly live my life that way. — I’m free, but when I work I try and do what I’m told Or pay the price, so it feels believable to me.
It;s a superb game— As long as you don’t try and play it as a shoot em up, One or the only games I’ve played that genuinely puts story ahead of the action.
Well, it should be about story and gameplay since it's a game, not a movie.

I don't like when gameplay keeps fighting against my enjoyment. I know it's not a twitch shooter but considering you spend a significant amount of time shooting things i wish gunplay was more fluid.

I don't mind restrictions when it makes sense. I'll give you another exemple. Sniper uphill. Objective was to advance from cover to cover. But i could see the sniper and had a clear shot. It didn't register though.
I had to move from rock to rock until the game said "ok, now kill him". I hate shit like this.
 
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just about to start on PC. all i want to ask is should i be playing with my XB1 controller or keyboard/mouse?

i'm excited for 60fps but the controls felt awful on PS4. does the game feel better with kb/m?
 
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So now that people have had time to tinker with it, what settings would you guys say the PS4 and Xbone are running the game on?
 

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A bit surprised by the games performence on Steam so far. Being beaten in the charts and player counts by a 10yo 360 game (46k in Halo Reach, 18k ingmae in Red Dead)
Maybe people are waiting for patches.
 
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It makes sense for Rockstar to remaster RDR1 for PC and next gen considering how most of the map is done, the plot, voice acting, etc, and it all runs on their new next gen engine that RDR2 runs on. It would sell a couple million easy.
 

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So now that people have had time to tinker with it, what settings would you guys say the PS4 and Xbone are running the game on?
Mostly medium to high one or two ultra and one or two lower than low. Ultra low as we call it :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 

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So now that people have had time to tinker with it, what settings would you guys say the PS4 and Xbone are running the game on?
i watched a digital foundry video where they tried to match the Xbox settings (not sure if it was the S or X model) and they couldn't lower some of the settings enough to match it but generally it ran similar to a mix of mostly medium/low settings (if i remember right). i'll try find it and link it.

edit: think it's this one
 
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I gave up on this game on PS4. The combination of 30 fps, heavy motion blur and vaseline filter was unbearable to me. And i always felt i was spending too much time on horseback moving from A to B just to have a few minutes of meaningful action. I loved the setting, story and characters though.

I double dipped on PC as i usually do. And... Now i love the game. Higher framerate, fov slider. Man, i love this stuff. And i could actually see what was i shooting at.
But the game was pretty much broken at first. I could barely play it. Constant crashes at startup. But it's better now. Though it still crashes from time to time.

Let me talk about the things i still hate about the game first. The control scheme, aim assist and mission design.

Aim assist and control layout are completely archaic. It's like Rockstar's being frozen in 2010. Aim assist is snap to target or nothing at all. I tried to find the sweet spot but i just couldn't.

I would completely rework the control scheme if i could. D-pad is mostly wasted. No way to quickly switch weapons. Schizophrenic context buttons. Sometimes you interact with (xbox controller) X, sometimes it's Y, sometimes it's R2. Too much reliance on weapon/item wheel.
Movement is clunky. Sometimes when i press against cover Arthur will climb over it and awkwardly get shot. And what the fuck is this shit of having to keep pressing A to run. Yeah, i know you can change it to toggle with L3. But it shouldn't be a thing in the first place. If you could watch me playing you'd see me constantly yelling at Arthur. "What the fuck are you doing?!?"

The game often switches your weapons or force you to use ones you don't want. In one mission i was using a pump action shotgun. Then Dutch threw me a double barrel shotgun and it replaced my pump action one. It was overwriten.
I spend money customizing my weapons just to find mid mission that the game replaced it with a cattleman revolver.

Mission design is too restrictive. In one mission i had to kill this beast. I brought my rifle. But if i tried to use it i'd immediately fail. Game forced me to use a revolver instead. In another mission i had to kill this nasty wolf. But if you shoot it before it's appropriate you do no damage.

I still spend a long time crossing the map on my horse. But my mindset changed a little. I'll camp, hunt, rob people or explore instead of making a bee line to my next objective. BUT i still wish fast travel was more convenient.

I really want to see how the story ends. I remember the names of every character and their stories. Rockstar made a damn good job making them all feel alive.

I don't know what else to say. RDR2 is the worst GOTY i've ever played. It's an amazing game. Production value through the roof. But it has some annoying flaws.
Add it as a nonsteam game and use gyroscope on your dual shock 4 or steam controller then turn off all aim assist.
 

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I have this game on PS4/XboxOneX and on PC.

I love the PC's 60 fps but the console problems are still present. The game is/has the most immersive world, but I really hate when I have to try 5 times to pick an item.

Some of the things that I really hate are the terrible NPC ... even on the PC version. I wish the PS3 gen hair for fixed for the PC..
 
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i'm sad I thought the snowstorms in ONline mode would have persisted a bit longer. They lasted what, 5 days?
 

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Picked this up recently when it hit Steam, though I've only really had the time to finally get into it during the Christmas Break. Gotta say visually it's pretty fantastic, even running on my rather antiquated i7 and GF 1070Ti. Performance has generally been pretty decent (I'm running it at 1920x1080 for more bells and whistles versus 2560x1440). PC does sound like it's about to take off at times though and I'm wary of playing for super long stretches versus and hour here and there.

My only real beef is with the fact that you can't save whilst on a mission and invariably there's a good trek involved before you even see any action, which is kind of frustrating if you're a bit of a medal hunter like me. Also, I'm not a fan of the way the game gatekeeps you on certain things like the Deadeye ability. I'd have liked that early on versus a couple of missions in.

Still early days (in the midst of Chapter 2 so it's all gravy).
 
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It's been running well for me, but the grindy design is getting to me. The hunting for camp upgrades while only being able to carry one animal carcass on your horse is really getting to me.
 
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It's been running well for me, but the grindy design is getting to me. The hunting for camp upgrades while only being able to carry one animal carcass on your horse is really getting to me.
Yep there are several annoying little things like this that piss me off. Even pressing the right buttons to kill an animal, pick it up, stow it on horse then take it off is a pain in the ass. Whoever came up with the controls for this game needs shooting (playing on PC with mouse + keybo)

I have this game on PS4/XboxOneX and on PC.

I love the PC's 60 fps but the console problems are still present. The game is/has the most immersive world, but I really hate when I have to try 5 times to pick an item.

Some of the things that I really hate are the terrible NPC ... even on the PC version. I wish the PS3 gen hair for fixed for the PC..
Yes again the controls are fucking stupid. Why when I look into my player or horse/animal menu or other menus do I have to exit about 3 screens to get back into the fucking game?

Visually, really impressive, but not mind blowing. It has the hint of old current gen consoles about it.

Overrall, after getting to about 30% complete, it's a really good game. I would love it more if it had a more appealing setting to my tastes. I actually like Westerns a little, but it can't compete with other settings (more sci-fi or fantasy) that I prefer. Like I was playing TLOU Remastered this weekend with the family, and I find that world much more compelling and it has a greater sense of escapism for me.
 
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