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Red Dead Redemption - 360 & PS3 comparison (Bish-approved!)
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imtehman said:
*raise hand*
Anyways, playing PS3 ver and dear god, I feel bad for the people who can notice slowdowns and jaggies while playing. I rarely find them until I start looking at it, the only thing that I really really notice while playing is Screen Tearing and thanks god this game doesn't have that feature! :lol
MazingerDUDE
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upper: 360
lower: PS3
640P + QAA makes some blurry image quality similar to that of GTA4.
There're some significant loss in foliage making some epic scene on 360 looking down right pathetic on PS3.
On 360's side, trees are well alpha blended looking very smooth overall.
PS3 on the other hand, trees are processed with alpha test creating some serious shimmering artifacts.
There're some LOD issues on PS3 as well. As you approach buildings, shadow pop is very apparent on PS3 where it is very smooth on 360.
There're some missing self shadows on PS3, making its characters look rather flat.
LOD is a lot more aggressive on PS3, change in geometry and object pop etc are a lot more noticeable.
The frame rate is much worse on PS3 too.
It is definitely NOT better than GTA4.
It's just that the nature of game makes frame rate issues less noticeable.
(You drive 200MPH in middle of crowded city in GTA, where you ride horse on barren wasteland in RDR)
Probably one of the worst port ever.
Funny how RDR got free pass from IGN when Bayonetta & Lost Planet 2 got picked for their flaws.
lower: PS3
640P + QAA makes some blurry image quality similar to that of GTA4.
There're some significant loss in foliage making some epic scene on 360 looking down right pathetic on PS3.
On 360's side, trees are well alpha blended looking very smooth overall.
PS3 on the other hand, trees are processed with alpha test creating some serious shimmering artifacts.
There're some LOD issues on PS3 as well. As you approach buildings, shadow pop is very apparent on PS3 where it is very smooth on 360.
There're some missing self shadows on PS3, making its characters look rather flat.
LOD is a lot more aggressive on PS3, change in geometry and object pop etc are a lot more noticeable.
The frame rate is much worse on PS3 too.
It is definitely NOT better than GTA4.
It's just that the nature of game makes frame rate issues less noticeable.
(You drive 200MPH in middle of crowded city in GTA, where you ride horse on barren wasteland in RDR)
Probably one of the worst port ever.
Funny how RDR got free pass from IGN when Bayonetta & Lost Planet 2 got picked for their flaws.
TheLegendary
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As a predominantly 360 gamer I really think you're exaggerating a bit.
I NEED SCISSORS
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I don't think the blurring would be quite so offensive if it didn't dull the entire image. I think a lot more clarity gets lost through the color/brightness than through the detail.
supermackem
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TheLegendary said:
:lol just a tad, i can barely tell the difference the ps3 grabs look a tiny bit more blurry thats about it. Its the worst port ever if you believe him.
As a person playing the PS3 version, I just have to say...I havent seen the framerate drop or because noticeably bad once, even during free roam online with explosions going off and crazy shoot outs.
Also calling that scene pathetic just because its got a few missing patches of brush...is a bit much. Same for calling the characters flat looking in the last set of shots.
In the end, RDR is nothing like Bayonetta on PS3. In game everything still looks pretty clear and decently sharp. You'll notice the small jaggies in the opening cutscene even if you arent looking for them, but after that, nothing really smacks you in the face.
Also calling that scene pathetic just because its got a few missing patches of brush...is a bit much. Same for calling the characters flat looking in the last set of shots.
In the end, RDR is nothing like Bayonetta on PS3. In game everything still looks pretty clear and decently sharp. You'll notice the small jaggies in the opening cutscene even if you arent looking for them, but after that, nothing really smacks you in the face.
Are there any points on which the PS3 wins out? Otherwise it seems like 360 is the clear choice if you have both platforms.
Think I'm going to cave and pick this up tomorrow, just looks too damn good (and refreshing, given the setting), and it seems pretty clear that I should go 360 just by this page alone.
Think I'm going to cave and pick this up tomorrow, just looks too damn good (and refreshing, given the setting), and it seems pretty clear that I should go 360 just by this page alone.
marathonfool
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MazingerDUDE said:
That's disappointing to hear a big game release from Rockstar get a worst port than the previous game. I'm kind of interested to hear what the devs did wrong in the port similar to Final Fantasy XIII. Hopefully Digital Foundry can shine some light on it.
JRW
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supermackem said:
The difference is a little more than "a tiny bit" on my 1080p monitor. Pretty substantial difference in sharpness and the lack of foliage on ps3 ver cant be denied.
Top that off with a lower framerate and its pretty clear which version is better here..
I own both systems so no special bias on my side, just going by what im seeing here.
Windom Earle
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Thx for the comparison, Mazinger. The overall IQ on PS3 seems to be pretty good and superior to GTAIV (no blur filter). Not comparable to the bad PS3 captures we've seen so far.
Surprised at the other differences you pointed out. Rockstar's overall treatment of the PS3 version is poor (not showing it, etc.) and it's quite sad that they get a free pass on it.
Not really seeing the self shadowing issue though. Interesting to see better trees on 360 too, GTAIV was quite different in that area. And the foliage differences are indeed huge!
Surprised at the other differences you pointed out. Rockstar's overall treatment of the PS3 version is poor (not showing it, etc.) and it's quite sad that they get a free pass on it.
Not really seeing the self shadowing issue though. Interesting to see better trees on 360 too, GTAIV was quite different in that area. And the foliage differences are indeed huge!
zero margin
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Some big differences there. Wow.
oversensitive
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Is there any performance difference? The game looks very similar without a microscope, in my opinion.
Stillmatic
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Well that comparison tips the scales in Modnation Racers favor for me, money is tight so it was either that or this.
From my impressions the only thing the PS3 is better at is the dithering. I guess because everything is so blurry, that's not as noticeable.
Otherwise I'm now a bit unhappy about the situation (I pre-ordered the PS3 version because I couldn't believe it would be as bad as it was 2 years ago)
The foilage especially is a big downer.
Otherwise I'm now a bit unhappy about the situation (I pre-ordered the PS3 version because I couldn't believe it would be as bad as it was 2 years ago)
The foilage especially is a big downer.
Foliorum Viridum
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Does the game look good in motion? Those screens are kinda ugly, but so are ones of GTA4 and when that's running it looks really good to me.
I'm hopeful for a PC port, but the good things I'm hearing are tempting me to resist waiting. Hmm..
I'm hopeful for a PC port, but the good things I'm hearing are tempting me to resist waiting. Hmm..
CartridgeBlower
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Yeah, why do websites pick apart other ports, but then a game like RDR, there's barely a mention of the differences from major websites? Is it just Rockstar not sending them the PS3 version in time for the review?
I mean, isn't this one of the reasons people go to review sites in the first place? To see which version of a game they should buy if they have both systems and there are differences?
I mean, isn't this one of the reasons people go to review sites in the first place? To see which version of a game they should buy if they have both systems and there are differences?
marathonfool
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Valru said:
Is it safe to say Rockstar has an awful multiplatform engine? You think they would at least improve the performance. As a PS3 only owner, I'm pretty disgusted that a big name developer is incapable of outputting a "parity"engine when a smaller studio like Avalanche is putting them to shame.
Windom Earle
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miladesn said:
Really, it's much better than GTAIV PS3 imo. The other differences are what makes this port bad. I know that "lazy devs" is a worn out meme, but it definitely comes to my mind here.
oversensitive
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okay so does the ps3 version run worse like most ports usually do? it was ported from 360, right?miladesn said:
zero margin
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oversensitive said:
Each version had it's own development team on RDR.
Ok, some people notice a big difference some don't but I do. I bought this today at kmart but unfortunately actually thought the opposite for some reason and in excitement opened it. Is kmart cool with exchanging a game but for a different platform if the game is already open (since it's not really a return)?
MazingerDUDE
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Foliorum Viridum said:
The game looks 'a lot' WORSE in motion with all the shimmering artifacts and flickering jaggies. (that is PS3 version of course)
Here're some videos I made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X271DTsH_g&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wge2EVB3wE&hd=1
Well, the video quality is rahter poor, but pay close attention to trees and the house up ahead.
The things get a lot worse on some epic vistas that what this game is all about.
It looks absolutely beautiful on 360, but just blurry flickering mess on PS3.
If you don't notice a difference, no need to switch (Keep in mind, frame rate is not shown here, but differs in favor of the 360 as is object pop-in which MezingerDUDE says is worse on PS3 as well.)Kruhex said:
This thread is mostly for people that notice those kind of things on their own anyway, so it's great if someone that is good at spotting this stuff can inform us before we buy it.
(The game isn't out in Europe yet for example.)
The foliage problem looks like the one between Operation Flashpoint on the 360 vs ps3. The 360 verison had good density but the ps3 had very scarse foliage.
That is probably the biggest complaint I would have if I were to complain about anything in the ps3 version. The other stuff wouldn't bother me as much but that foliage difference is pretty huge.
That is probably the biggest complaint I would have if I were to complain about anything in the ps3 version. The other stuff wouldn't bother me as much but that foliage difference is pretty huge.
oversensitive
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are you having fun with it and it isn't giving you problems? what does the other version give you than your current one?Kruhex said:
DeVeAn said:
Either you are blind to this sort of thing (good for you) or you're a ps3 fanboy deluxe.
C'mon, there is a huge difference in foliage atleast! But anyone with eyes can see all the other differences ... you may not be bothered by it, but that's another story.
Sorry for double post.
Thanks for the shots MazingerDUDE.
Looking at the screens they look similar enough that it wouldn't be too much of an issue for me, but a buddy of mine was going back and forth between the two versions and he texted me a while ago that on frame rate difference alone the Xbox version was the one to get and it was a "no brainer."
Looking at the screens they look similar enough that it wouldn't be too much of an issue for me, but a buddy of mine was going back and forth between the two versions and he texted me a while ago that on frame rate difference alone the Xbox version was the one to get and it was a "no brainer."
polyh3dron
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Hey it helped me out after I sifted through the bullshit. I hate these reactionary posts, they shit up and otherwise informative thread.noisome07 said:
You know, some of us have all 3 consoles and couldn't care less about console warz.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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schennmu said:
It's very apparent if you download the images and flip from one version to the other.
I don't know how they compare in motion, but based on these grabs, I wouldn't say the PS3 version looks bad at all. However, it does look noticeably worse, that much is obvious. If the performance gulf is also as wide as MagazinerDUDE claims... Yeah, PS3 ended up with a poor port.
scoobs
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lol this is one of the funniest threads ever.. i miss the old days on gaf where there wasn't blatant system wars goin down. I honestly can barely see any differences in any of those pictures, the 360 is a little sharper... but honestly?? that ps3 pic looks pathetic compared to the 360 one? lol alrighty apparently i'm in the minority here, i seriously am not seeing a big difference.
AsylumBlue
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This sort of discussion has been going on since day 1 on gaf. Actually, with the rise of insular mini-communities forming around official threads (where no negativity at all tends to be tolerated by the participants), things are rather tame compared to the old days.
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