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Reddit rumor: Insomniac almost worked on Conker reboot, Banjo + PD reboot in 2016/17

TomShoe

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I'd like to take the opportunity to state that Kampfheld is not a dev working on the next Crackdown, or is in any way associated with Cloudgine. I very rarely post in forums, and won't comment again, but as the co-founder of Cloudgine I can 100% state that all his comments should be ignored. Mods can feel free to reach out to me to verify.

Dave Jones, Cloudgine

Is this a denial of what Kampfheld said? Or is this just admission that he doesn't know him personally? I wonder if Mr. Jones has connections into what's actually happening with the IPs.
 

Messofanego

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Fuck, that means there's little chance of there being a Banjo Threeie.
 
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Very interesting. I imagine Insomniac would rather work on their own IP instead of taking over an old one.

Yes, that's exactly the reason they've stretched their legs beyond working with just Sony. They want to own the games they work on, not keep creating other properties for publishers.

I don't understand the obsession for 90s IPs. Let's move forward and create new IPs. The whole crash bandicoot and Conker obsession will not reflect on the masses.

I share this opinion. I know a lot of people really love '90s Rare, but it's been 15 years since they've been consistently good and I don't have much faith in the company they are today.

At least this finally confirms that MS are actively trying to do something with their Rare IP.

To be honest I think this is more a case of MS not knowing what to do with Rare. They shoot down Rare's new ideas but the casual movement has failed and they've mismanaged the historic IPs.

I think both companies need to forget the legacy, move on and create something new. They've tried to reinvent Rare, but they need to unleash them and commission some completely new projects.

How did Conker sell on 360? I wouldn't think there's much demand for Conker or Banjo on XB. I could see a PD reboot doing well, though.

Conker: Live and Reloaded was on the original Xbox, and it launched as I recall about six months before the 360 launches, and was pretty much sent to die. I doubt it sold much at all.
 

Yoshi

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I'd like to take the opportunity to state that Kampfheld is not a dev working on the next Crackdown, or is in any way associated with Cloudgine. I very rarely post in forums, and won't comment again, but as the co-founder of Cloudgine I can 100% state that all his comments should be ignored. Mods can feel free to reach out to me to verify.

Dave Jones, Cloudgine

So, can you comment on Banjo?

Plot twist: Both get Bish approved and DaveJ has to reinvestigate his team (I hope, I need Banjo :() ;).
 

Yoshi

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Woah, now that's a plot twist. I remember the thread where Kamp got verified... wonder what's up?

As a huge Banjo fan I just hope that he willingly told us the wrong working opportunity in order to not make himself easily exposed, but verified with the correct credentials to the moderation (I'd be fine with being lied to in that way, I don't need to know the position of the leaker, I only need to know if he is reliable).
 

Poodlestrike

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If Kamp got verified and he is a bullshitter then process of verification has to be improved.

As a huge Banjo fan I just hope that he willingly told us the wrong working opportunity in order to not make himself easily exposed, but verified with the correct credentials to the moderation (I'd be fine with being lied to in that way, I don't need to know the position of the leaker, I only need to know if he is reliable).

Well, IIRC, he was actually verified on the basis of him working on cloud tech, prior to his (now alleged) move to Crackdown. So it's possible that only the move was BS, and he's still in a position to know stuff, but wanted more attention.

I hope he's thoroughly for real, though.
 

amardilo

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I kind of hope this all isn't true.

I'd like to see a new Conker but I wouldn't like Insomniac to do it as I think the humour doesn't suit them but then again I'd imagine if they did do it the platforming would be great.

Conker's crude humour does need to modernise a bit but not too much and if someone is going to do they would probably need someone like Christopher Seavor to advise on the humour and style.

Also the idea of a quick turn around sounds very bad. I'd be really worried they would ruin what is left of any old franchise if they rush out a release and I'd imagine we would end up getting stuff like Crackdown 2 which were OK but could have been a lot better and improved on the original.

I would however like to see a new Perfect Dark and a new Banjo game but all this sounds like MS are giving other studios stuff Rare started. I would really like to see this stuff stay with Rare and see what current Rare (regardless of who has left the studio) can do with it.
 

Chris1

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I'd like to take the opportunity to state that Kampfheld is not a dev working on the next Crackdown, or is in any way associated with Cloudgine. I very rarely post in forums, and won't comment again, but as the co-founder of Cloudgine I can 100% state that all his comments should be ignored. Mods can feel free to reach out to me to verify.

Dave Jones, Cloudgine
Wait what..? Talk about plot twist

Even if he's not working on crackdown, I still trust him for now as everything he's said up until this point has came true so he's clearly in the know... but what the fuck?
 

jesu

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Oh shit, Banjo was a lie!?
Damn you Kampheld.

Wait what..? Talk about plot twist

Even if he's not working on crackdown, I still trust him for now as everything he's said up until this point has came true so he's clearly in the know... but what the fuck?

What did he say that was true?

edit - he was online 5 minutes ago.
 

Chris1

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Oh shit, Banjo was a lie!?
Damn you Kampheld.



What did he say that was true?

edit - he was online 5 minutes ago.
Mostly referring to what would be in the monthly updates, called screenshots being early 2015 like 6 months ago etc

Everything game related he's said was talking about being announced at E3/sometime in 2015 (his old game that I think he said is now cancelled because he was moved to CD, banjo, etc), so we don't know if he was telling the truth there and won't until E3 but If I remember correctly, he even said Banjo kazooie at e3 2015 way before any of the rumours either, and that's looking somewhat likely now with Phil's tweets about rares game being true rareware and such.

He also said a while back that it wasn't cloudgine developing the actual crackdown game and the studio was unknown.. is it possible Dave is just mistaken and doesn't know who Kampfheld is, especially if it's a different studio working on it it seems possible?
 

Kampfheld

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Hey guys,

relax everyone. I never stated I work for Cloudgine. On the contrary ...



That said, I will stop posting as of today. Don't want to hurt anyone. If mods feel like I should be banned - alright. Just make sure to check my statements again after E3.
 

Natiko

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Hey guys,

relax everyone. I never stated I work for Cloudgine. On the contrary ...



That said, I will stop posting as of today. Don't want to hurt anyone. If mods feel like I should be banned - alright. Just make sure to check my statements again after E3.
Got put on blast and run off the forum by Dave Jones for something you didn't even say? That's a shame.
 

jurec84

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Hey guys,

relax everyone. I never stated I work for Cloudgine. On the contrary ...



That said, I will stop posting as of today. Don't want to hurt anyone. If mods feel like I should be banned - alright. Just make sure to check my statements again after E3.

The plot thickens ... but afaik most stuff Kampfheld said here was about Rare and not Cloudgine ...
 

jesu

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Hey guys,

relax everyone. I never stated I work for Cloudgine. On the contrary ...



That said, I will stop posting as of today. Don't want to hurt anyone. If mods feel like I should be banned - alright. Just make sure to check my statements again after E3.

You said you were working on Crackdown though, which seems to have been shot down by
DaveJ.
 

Steverulez

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You said you were working on Crackdown though, which seems to have been shot down by
DaveJ.

Im pretty sure Crackdown has another team working on it too, Cloudgine are pretty small and I don't think they could be working on a game that size entirely by themselves.

Even with that, there is lots of outsourcing in the industry, just because he's not at Cloudgine doesn't mean he isn't working on it somewhere.
 

pizzacat

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This is my first insider thread. I don't know what to believe. Lurk reading this was awesome tho lmao
 

rob305

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So he doesnt work for cloudgine. Even if he would, how could DaveJ verify hes not an employee?
"Hey guys, is anyone of you guys leaking information on NeoGAF? No one? Well, got to post that the leaker is fake then since no one raised their hand"
 

Odah

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Im pretty sure Crackdown has another team working on it too, Cloudgine are pretty small and I don't think they could be working on a game that size entirely by themselves.

Even with that, there is lots of outsourcing in the industry, just because he's not at Cloudgine doesn't mean he isn't working on it somewhere.

I know that there is a team in Austria-Vienna which made some (or all?) of the assets for Crackdown 2
 

Bennicus

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So he doesnt work for cloudgine. Even if he would, how could DaveJ verify hes not an employee?
"Hey guys, is anyone of you guys leaking information on NeoGAF? No one? Well, got to post that the leaker is fake then since no one raised their hand"

Check out his post history though, it's virtually all Microsoft. (Kampfheld, not DJ)