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Risen 3: Titan Lords announced (Piranha Bytes)
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Yup, it's fantastic, a must play if you like games of that kind.
dragonbane
Member
One of the last decent studios in Germany. Come on guys, make me proud!
Piranha Bytes are truly the masters of bugs and glitches.
Still have some very fond memories of Gothic 1 + 2 though.
Paracelsus
Member
Make it so hard that even the title screen can kill you.
Even thought it is Risen 3, i hope it is a real reboot with new Characters. At best they even let us create our Character, but i don't think that will happen.
Hope it's PC and PS4/Xbone. Now with the PC like architecture of these machines they will maybe even be able to make decent console versions!
Hope it's PC and PS4/Xbone. Now with the PC like architecture of these machines they will maybe even be able to make decent console versions!
Dr D Wayne Love
Banned
I've just bought Risen 2 for the 360, wouldn't mind if three is on it too.
Yep it is. I am a huge Gothic fan, played all of them and Risen. But Risen 2 just sucked..
this x 1000
Dead Prince
Banned
please don't be like Risen 2. i had high hopes for that game.
Risen 1 had such a great world to explore and characters to interact with. I loved all the random profanity as well. The combat was poor.
Risen 2 destroyed the exploration element by having several small islands to explore. The main character became a parody of himself and somehow the combat was actually worse.
I'm hopeful but skeptical about risen 3.
Risen 2 destroyed the exploration element by having several small islands to explore. The main character became a parody of himself and somehow the combat was actually worse.
I'm hopeful but skeptical about risen 3.
I thought the problem with Risen 2 was that the game consisted of a series of islands with linear paths. The world design itself was pretty incredible, and just made it more annoying that it wasn't an open world game, or had any focus on exploration (Besides getting to your objectives.). Why, oh why did they do this? It obviously would have been an entirely different game if it had a single world or map.
If they do the same with Risen 3, then, well, it'll probably be a lot more like Risen 2 than Risen 1.
If they do the same with Risen 3, then, well, it'll probably be a lot more like Risen 2 than Risen 1.
Aren't you forgetting Gothic 4: Arcania?
ChosenPredator
Banned
won't fall for the hype on the forums anymore gonna just wait and see the results this time, they got some severe proving to do.
Wiktor
Member
No such thing exists.
In my mind it will forever be Arcania: Gothic Tale
Only PB can make true Gothic sequel.
It's flawed, but the atmosphere, characters and dialog make up for it. If you want to play it for the combat, then don't.
I loved it. Even bought the super big collector's edition with this guy (after buying the cheaper collector's edition from zavvi for 13pounds):
I would like that, however if that would be the case they could just call it Gothic since the rights are back with Piranha Bytes.
Pyrrhus
Member
Well, until that final dungeon it is. Still, very much worth playing even with the warts.
Let's hope they make the combat and role playing elements better this time. I loved Gothic I and II the first Risen, but their design and execution were wrongheaded in the case of Risen II. At least the writing was pretty decent, though the entire pirate thing was pretty half baked. Maybe now that the winds have shifted to favor PC and indie games they can go back to doing what they do well instead of trying dumb things down for what they perceive as a more lucrative audience.
I loved it. Even bought the super big collector's edition with this guy (after buying the cheaper collector's edition from zavvi for 13pounds):
Jafar was a big bastard bright spot, fuck yes!
Sentenza
Member
Still the terribly unfunny video I remembered.
Sentenza
Member
In the end I still think it's better than most "triple A" RPGs, but Jesus, there's a lot of poorly thought stuff (if not borderline garbage) to digest to appreciate the good parts. And it's *definitely* a step back from Risen 1.
ScepticMatt
Member
Shh, don't remind him.
It's not made by PB anyway
Lord of Castamere
Member
Will buy when 20$ if Ps4. Risen 2 was k.
Good god, not every series needs to be like Dark Souls. Why don't you go play Dark Souls 2 instead?
Gothic4 wasn't as bad as Risen2, imo. It was enjoyable just tedious and repetitive. I at least got maybe 20 hours of gameplay out of it. I didn't get that much out of Risen2.
Sentenza
Member
It was much worse in my opinion, and in a lot of ways.
While I can agree with you that listening to the rabid Souls fans can become tiring after awhile, I must admit that an open world RPG designed by Piranha with a combat took directly from Dark Souls would top even a proper Dark Souls sequel on my hype scale, and not by a small degree.
And i don't even think Risen 1's combat system was half bad, for the record.
True, but they need to improve their combat.
Kiru
Member
LOL I played Arcania. It was playable, but seriously better than Risen 2? Hell no! Didn't you notice how nearly every NPC looked the same, the stupid quests, the stupid story etc? Wow... This Risen 2 hate is too much for me.
ScepticMatt
Member
Not sure, never got past the demo. Either way G4 is terrible.
Good god i didin't say they should use Dark Souls Combat.
And yes, i think every game played with Swords, shields etc should take a good look at the Souls series. Not to copy the combat, but to give their own combat system a bit of the weight and feel of the weapons (I'm no native english speaker, so that may sound a bit off, but i think people know what i'm talking about.)
Oh and for all the Games with similar combat, i know not a single one that actually has comparable combat. People wish for it yes, but do you know a game that has it?
Turin Turambar
Member
You speak as if the objectives of games was to have realistic combat.
Lots of games have arcade, unrealistic melee combat because that's what they want.
What Risen 1 combat system really needed was a better parry. There was a parry skill, but it didn't create much of an opening. At least it didn't hand out invincibility frames like candy though. Dark Souls just resetting player and enemy model and animation each time you backstab or parry an enemy and then giving you invincibility for the duration of the animation instantly broke any immersion for me.
Sentenza
Member
On a side note, this artwork is quite dull. i seriously hope to get a better impression from in-game graphics.
I'm also a bit disappointed if they are going to ditch the pirate setting. It was the only thing I felt as an improvement over Risen 1 (well, that and the voice acting).
Quite the opposite: if you're going to have long ass animations (which i would gladly do without, anyway) you better be sure to give me invulnerability frames in the meantime, because if I'm getting killed while an unstoppable animation is playing I'm going to rage hard.
I'm also a bit disappointed if they are going to ditch the pirate setting. It was the only thing I felt as an improvement over Risen 1 (well, that and the voice acting).
Eh, can't say I give a damn about it.
Quite the opposite: if you're going to have long ass animations (which i would gladly do without, anyway) you better be sure to give me invulnerability frames in the meantime, because if I'm getting killed while an unstoppable animation is playing I'm going to rage hard.
I'm talking about Risen here, and that has definitely more of a realistic approach.
So if you feel better about it you can switch "all games" with "All games with realsitic combat ...." in my statement. And again, i didn't say they all should use it, but take a look at it and decide if it would benefit their own combat system. And in Risen's case i definitely think it would. That's all I'm saying.
Neither did I btw. (Well of course I did in my response to another poster above, but not in my initial post). Just tired of seeing Dark Souls fans suggesting to make X more like DaS.
Fuck that.
Sentenza
Member
Well, I guess they aren't going to step up their game too much, on the tech side.
Oh well, that never was Piranha Bytes' strong point, after all.
Pyrrhus
Member
That may be true but they need to throw out the Gothic era running and idling animations and start over with fresh stuff that looks more natural. It was bizarre seeing pirates gesticulate in a 2012 game using the same basic animations as people you'd see at the work camp in 1998's Gothic I.
Also, if they're going to give Risen Guy such a defined personality, they need to give his stupid ass a name. "You are the greatest hero of this land and a great historical figure and I will awkwardly use pronouns to avoid ever mentioning your name." And I wouldn't mind if they dropped pirates, but it does make their world building kind of stupid and incoherent at best.
Also, if they're going to give Risen Guy such a defined personality, they need to give his stupid ass a name. "You are the greatest hero of this land and a great historical figure and I will awkwardly use pronouns to avoid ever mentioning your name." And I wouldn't mind if they dropped pirates, but it does make their world building kind of stupid and incoherent at best.