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[Darkmakaimura]

Robert Englund says he is 'too long in the tooth' to play Freddy Krueger again

Actor portrayed slasher icon in eight films.

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Yeah I get where he's coming from. Kinda sucks though as he was and will always be the best Freddy Krueger. Freddy is my favorite classic slasher villain of all time.

 

[triplestation]

so fuckin get ben kingsley

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Freddy character is a joke and would get laughed off the stage.

Even in the 80s and 90s, these aren't really horror films. More like comedies with the occasional weird comedic killing.

Just like superhero movies, people have moved onto more gritty characters. Not sure when it happened, but maybe it was Matrix or Batman Begins that made action and horror movies more serious.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Freddy character is a joke and would get laughed off the stage.

Even in the 80s and 90s, these aren't really horror films. More like comedies with the occasional weird comedic killing.

Just like superhero movies, people have moved onto more gritty characters. Not sure when it happened, but maybe it was Matrix or Batman Begins that made action and horror movies more serious.

Yeah. I mean Freddy vs Jason was really more of an action movie than horror.

But that's why this subgenre is called 'slasher' movies. It's more about the gore than being scary.

 

[AlteredForms]

For old time's sake.

 

[Tesseract]

the englund i know would say too long in the claw and get on steroids and cocaine

holy shit imagine if freddy was jacked

 

[kunonabi]

If the man is too old then you have to just let it die. The sad thing is FvJ did a pretty job of finding the right scary/humorous balance for the character and instead of following that up with a movie or too we got that godawful reboot that killed the franchise again.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

If the man is too old then you have to just let it die. The sad thing is FvJ did a pretty job of finding the right scary/humorous balance for the character and instead of following that up with a movie or too we got that godawful reboot that killed the franchise again.

That NOES reboot was terrible. And such an utter bore too.

Freddy vs Jason was imo the best "versus" movie so far. I was really entertained. In fact, it's my favorite NOES movie after Dream Warriors and Dream Master.

I heard they had originally wanted to get Ash into it too. I wonder how a follow up with Ash would have fared or would it have been just too much overkill?

 

[kingbean]

If Rob Halford, KISS, and the Rolling Stones are still touring I think Englund could do it again if he wanted.

But then again, when I'm 72 I probably wont want to do shit.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

If Rob Halford, KISS, and the Rolling Stones are still touring I think Englund could do it again if he wanted.

But then again, when I'm 72 I probably wont want to do shit.

Don't forget Harrison Ford and Indy 5, which just got a confirmed release date.

Still I can understand England's feelings. Spending literally hours in a chair beginning at 4am for makeup can be pretty uncomfortable.

Englund will alwayd be beloved by me regardless. He's a living legend who helped define and shape the modern slasher genre along with the likes of Jason and Norman Bates.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I thought Jackie Earle Haley was fine as Freddy. The movie sucked but that wasn’t his fault, imo

 

[brap]

I thought Jackie Earle Haley was fine as Freddy. The movie sucked but that wasn’t his fault, imo

maybe if he wasnt 5 feet tall. if i saw him invade my dreams id punt that little farnsgoth like a football.

 

[Stouffers]

I want to see an aging Freddy flick similar to Rocky Balboa. He’s old, irrelevant and coming to terms with the temporary nature of the world and his legacy. Maybe he takes a new young child killer under his wing and shows him OR HER the ropes.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

I want to see an aging Freddy flick similar to Rocky Balboa. He’s old, irrelevant and coming to terms with the temporary nature of the world and his legacy. Maybe he takes a new young child killer under his wing and shows him OR HER the ropes.

"I.... Am.... Eternal."

 

[brap]

I want to see an aging Freddy flick similar to Rocky Balboa. He’s old, irrelevant and coming to terms with the temporary nature of the world and his legacy. Maybe he takes a new young child killer under his wing and shows him OR HER the ropes.

Why her? No guy is gonna tell some female Freddy not to molest him in his dreams lmao.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Why her? No guy is gonna tell some female Freddy not to molest him in his dreams lmao.

Could just have the Dream Demons find a new host but I definitely would NOT want a female equivalent of Freddy.

 

[Stouffers]

Why her? No guy is gonna tell some female Freddy not to molest him in his dreams lmao.

 

[Son Tofu]

Why her? No guy is gonna tell some female Freddy not to molest him in his dreams lmao.

Lena Dunham.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Looks like she devoured way too many souls.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Well there you go brap. She's all yours.

 

[Son Tofu]

brap prefers the tankass?

 

[Karma Jawa]

Doubt we’ll see any NoES films any time soon anyway, seeing as they’re going through similar legal issues to Ft13.

 

[kunonabi]

That NOES reboot was terrible. And such an utter bore too.

Freddy vs Jason was imo the best "versus" movie so far. I was really entertained. In fact, it's my favorite NOES movie after Dream Warriors and Dream Master.

I heard they had originally wanted to get Ash into it too. I wonder how a follow up with Ash would have fared or would it have been just too much overkill?

I think it could have worked with some better screenwriters. Hell, any input from Raimi would probably help quite a bit since I could see him having quite a bit of fun with Freddy's abilities.

I sort of liked Englund's idea where a different actor was used for each victim's dream that Freddy appeared in. If you can't have the definitive actor than just lean into a variety of different approaches and have as much fun with it as you can.

 

[Stouffers]

Looks like she devoured way too many souls.

She was originally killed in a low-country boil-er room.

 

[TaySan]

Dude deserves to retire from the character. He had a great run.

 

[Airola]

Just like superhero movies, people have moved onto more gritty characters. Not sure when it happened, but maybe it was Matrix or Batman Begins that made action and horror movies more serious.

Freddy was the best when the comedy part was Freddy being a god damn creep with his jokes with no intent to make anyone laugh but himself. Things started to change in Elm Street 3. In Elm Street 4 he was an almost full comedy character and finally in Elm Street 6 he was a complete caricature who had tons of kids as fans who laughed at his jokes.

All they would need is to make him be someone who jokes while killing kids because he's a monster instead of telling jokes while killing kids to make kids laugh.

They tried that a bit with the remake but the script was pretty bad to make it work. I've heard that quite a bit of its bad quality was because the producers wanted changes to the first cut, though.
I really liked some of the last 10-15 minutes of it. I thought they managed to make Freddy an actual creep of a monster for a short moment there.

Why her? No guy is gonna tell some female Freddy not to molest him in his dreams lmao.

The doctor lady on Elm Street 3, sure, but are you saying that even if that Doctor Lady turns into a full blown burned up freakshow there wouldn't be anyone to turn her down?

 

[nikolino840]

Freddy was the best when the comedy part was Freddy being a god damn creep with his jokes with no intent to make anyone laugh but himself. Things started to change in Elm Street 3. In Elm Street 4 he was an almost full comedy character and finally in Elm Street 6 he was a complete caricature who had tons of kids as fans who laughed at his jokes.

All they would need is to make him be someone who jokes while killing kids because he's a monster instead of telling jokes while killing kids to make kids laugh.

They tried that a bit with the remake but the script was pretty bad to make it work. I've heard that quite a bit of its bad quality was because the producers wanted changes to the first cut, though.
I really liked some of the last 10-15 minutes of it. I thought they managed to make Freddy an actual creep of a monster for a short moment there.



The doctor lady on Elm Street 3, sure, but are you saying that even if that Doctor Lady turns into a full blown burned up freakshow there wouldn't be anyone to turn her down?

The 6 Is that one between reality and movie?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Freddy was the best when the comedy part was Freddy being a god damn creep with his jokes with no intent to make anyone laugh but himself. Things started to change in Elm Street 3. In Elm Street 4 he was an almost full comedy character and finally in Elm Street 6 he was a complete caricature who had tons of kids as fans who laughed at his jokes.

All they would need is to make him be someone who jokes while killing kids because he's a monster instead of telling jokes while killing kids to make kids laugh.

They tried that a bit with the remake but the script was pretty bad to make it work. I've heard that quite a bit of its bad quality was because the producers wanted changes to the first cut, though.
I really liked some of the last 10-15 minutes of it. I thought they managed to make Freddy an actual creep of a monster for a short moment there.



The doctor lady on Elm Street 3, sure, but are you saying that even if that Doctor Lady turns into a full blown burned up freakshow there wouldn't be anyone to turn her down?

Shit, I don't remember much about the old Elm St movies, and definitely don't remember the first few except the mom getting pulled through the window. Googling it, my best memories were from 3 where you had the nerdy D&D guy wizard. That's probably where I got the impression it's a laughfest.

 

[Old Retro]

"I'm too old to be in movies" are words Stallone and Schwarzenegger never uttered Shit, the cast of the last Star Wars too

 

[xrnzaaas]

Freddy character is a joke and would get laughed off the stage.

Even in the 80s and 90s, these aren't really horror films. More like comedies with the occasional weird comedic killing.

Just like superhero movies, people have moved onto more gritty characters. Not sure when it happened, but maybe it was Matrix or Batman Begins that made action and horror movies more serious.

Speak for yourself, I remember feeling very uncomfortable after watching Nightmare on Elm Street for the first time as a kid, never had the same problem with series such as Friday the 13th or Halloween.

 

[Airola]

The 6 Is that one between reality and movie?

No, that's 7.

 

[EverydayBeast]

He shouldn't have retired. Freddy is a no brainer for box office.

 

[holygeesus]

Wes Craven's 'New Nightmare' is one of the smartest, most well crafted, horror films of all time. The writing is a masterclass.

 

[brap]

New Nightmare is one of the most pretentious movies I've ever seen. Craven was hunched over sucking himself off the entire time he was writing and directing it.
Shit is also like a Lifetime movie with a little bit of horror at the end. If Craven didn't direct it everybody would rightfully be calling it garbage like it is.

 

[holygeesus]

New Nightmare is one of the most pretentious movies I've ever seen. Craven was hunched over sucking himself off the entire time he was writing and directing it.
Shit is also like a Lifetime movie with a little bit of horror at the end. If Craven didn't direct it everybody would rightfully be calling it garbage like it is.

Nah you are looking at it in hindsight. The script was clever considering it came before all the self-referential wank that appeared in the post-Scream world.

 

[GymWolf]

robbie most disturbing role was the cripple in the mangler, fight me.

 

[Airola]

New Nightmare was really exciting when it came out. The idea of the characters playing themselves was fun, although I have to admit it didn't really feel like they were themselves as they clearly felt like characters to me. It would've been much better had them really felt they weren't characters but really just themselves. It was still fun to watch. It's not as good anymore as it was then, but I'd say if we'd have to categorize and list all Elm Streets into the good and the bad, it would be right there in the bottom of the good and that's much better than being on top of the bad.

Plus Miko Hughes must be the all time best child actor in horror movies.

 

[The Pleasure]

Freddy character is a joke and would get laughed off the stage.

Even in the 80s and 90s, these aren't really horror films. More like comedies with the occasional weird comedic killing.

Just like superhero movies, people have moved onto more gritty characters. Not sure when it happened, but maybe it was Matrix or Batman Begins that made action and horror movies more serious.

The first nightmare was genuinely scary. Movie holds up. It was 4-6 that changed freddy fundamentally.

 

[Riastrad]

Just let it die. Why does the culture turn these fictional killers into icons again?

 

[Gargus]

the englund i know would say too long in the claw and get on steroids and cocaine

holy shit imagine if freddy was jacked

We had that already.

 

[TriSuit666]

Just do a V and pull the old skin on his face off, to reveal a youthful lookin Freddy underneath.

 

[Tesseract]

We had that already.

where da fooking color @

 

[Gargus]

where da fooking color @

Was a black and white segment. I forgot which one it was really. I have the set with them all but really I only pay attention to 1, 2 and 3. But the others still have their own charm to them despite not being very good.

 

[Karma Jawa]

Nah you are looking at it in hindsight. The script was clever considering it came before all the self-referential wank that appeared in the post-Scream world.

I think Ft13th part 6 gets overlooked when it comes to being self-aware. It’s not as on the nose as New Nightmare, but it was the first of the genre to laugh at itself.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

where da fooking color @

He was imitating an old comic book pulp look so it's black and white on purpose.

 

[Foamy]

Jesus Christ that's terrifying!

 

[Airola]

Was a black and white segment. I forgot which one it was really.

Elm Street 5.
I recall that scene was in fact not shot with black & white film or not even made into b&w in post-production, but the set and make-up and clothes and all were made black & white.

 

[Airola]

The absolute jump the shark moment for Freddy and Elm Street movies was in Elm Street 6 where Freddy killed a guy in a video game using "Power Glove".

That shit was AWESOME when I was 12. I watched the movie three times in a row back then. That's how amazing it was. And I watched it a lot afterwards too.

Like hell, it's a character who murdered little kids (and probably molested them too) who was lynched by a mob of angry parents and who is now murdering teens. And somehow that concept was made into something with Power Glove references that a 12-year-old kid watches over and over again.

When I watched it again after a long pause maybe almost 20 years after I had seen it for the first time, holy hell the whole movie was awful. It was painful to watch.