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Rockstar uses cracked Max Payne 2 for Steam retail?

Diablohead

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hah, really? :lol

Which company a few years back used an unofficial patch as an official one without telling people? I forget what game it was for.
 

Dachande

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I wonder if it's because of something like Rockstar not having access to the Max Payne 2 source code? If that still belongs to Remedy, they won't have been able to make a non-DRMed exe, so this would have been their only option.
 

BudokaiMR2

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Brashnir said:
proving once and for all that pirates provide a better product than publishers.

I honestly tried for 4-5 days to get my copy of Dirt2 from the D2D sale to work. Tried a good dozen fixes I read about and ended up just downloading and inputting the key they emailed me. Worked on the first try.

DRM Fucking sucks and should be outlawed.
 

Visualante

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Dachande said:
I wonder if it's because of something like Rockstar not having access to the Max Payne 2 source code? If that still belongs to Remedy, they won't have been able to make a non-DRMed exe, so this would have been their only option.
Perhaps Rockstar didn't want to pay for Remedy's services.
 

Gattsu25

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Dachande said:
I wonder if it's because of something like Rockstar not having access to the Max Payne 2 source code? If that still belongs to Remedy, they won't have been able to make a non-DRMed exe, so this would have been their only option.
Or they could have done the damned work themselves before making a profit off of a hacking group's code
 

Dead Man

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Dachande said:
I wonder if it's because of something like Rockstar not having access to the Max Payne 2 source code? If that still belongs to Remedy, they won't have been able to make a non-DRMed exe, so this would have been their only option.
Or they could have hacked it themselves.

Edit: Beaten! :D
 

Gravijah

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maybe "myth" is actually a rockstar employee who reverse engineered code he stole from within rockstar to release cracks for their games. maybe then rockstar found out and they gave him an ultimatum: give us the crack so we can put it in a steam release of the game, or you are fired.
 

Gattsu25

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Gravijah said:
maybe "myth" is actually a rockstar employee who reverse engineered code he stole from within rockstar to release cracks for their games. maybe then rockstar found out and they gave him an ultimatum: give us the crack so we can put it in a steam release of the game, or you are fired.
Maybe this employee was a plant by 3DRealms. Maybe this employee was a giraffe. Maybe we shouldn't baselessly fucking speculate because it's idiotic?
 

Dead Man

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Gattsu25 said:
Maybe this employee was a plant by 3DRealms. Maybe this employee was a giraffe. Maybe we shouldn't baselessly fucking speculate because it's idiotic?
Maybe Gattsu25 needs to chill out a bit at a joke post.
 

Stumpokapow

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Dachande said:
I wonder if it's because of something like Rockstar not having access to the Max Payne 2 source code? If that still belongs to Remedy, they won't have been able to make a non-DRMed exe, so this would have been their only option.

... how do you think the cracking group did it to begin with?

If Rockstar didn't have access to the source code, they should have written their own crack. Taking an off the shelf crack undermines bogus publisher arguments that off the shelf cracks are dangerous. It's en endorsement of all legal owners using cracks. And if legal owners are encouraged to use cracks and illegal owners are trivially going to use cracks, there's no justification for DRM to begin with.
 

Dachande

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Stumpokapow said:
... how do you think the cracking group did it to begin with?

If Rockstar didn't have access to the source code, they should have written their own crack. Taking an off the shelf crack undermines bogus publisher arguments that off the shelf cracks are dangerous. It's en endorsement of all legal owners using cracks. And if legal owners are encouraged to use cracks and illegal owners are trivially going to use cracks, there's no justification for DRM to begin with.

Cool your jets (and everyone else who jumped on me), I agree with you. I didn't say what Rockstar did was morally or legally right, it's just how they might've seen the situation at the time.

Of course they should've removed the DRM themselves, but if they wanted to get it on Steam ASAP then they probably went for the quickest, most painless option from their point of view. I doubt the publishing arm of the company has the calibre of programmers that the hacking group has and they probably didn't want to pay lots of money for someone like that to spend weeks doing it when it's been done already.

That's not an endorsement, just a statement of a theory. Calm down.
 

BobsRevenge

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Heh. Selling the cracked version on Steam :lol How lazy can you be?
Maybe the call to Remedy would've been too awkward.
 

Wallach

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My guess is that they find humor in doing it this way. This crack probably cost them some money back in the day (I'm sure they feel that way at least), and now it serves them to make money. I mean, they could have used the crack and taken out the logo very easily, and they didn't.

Edit - They updated the game and this was removed from the executable. :lol
 

Truespeed

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Someone should do a byte comparison between the old and new executable. I'd like to know what exactly was changed.
 

Nemo

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It's not really possible to pirate your own merchandise. Still, Rockstar should acknowledge the crack group's work.
Seriously? If someone just busted your game like that? Hell I would've done the same if I was rockstar, would've saved money
 

purg3

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:lol not the first time a dev/pub has used release group crack/files in a game, but still funny.
 

Aon

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Thank god GAF is around to spot these gaffes :)

Also I have no problem with the publisher doing this, may as well recoup what revenue you can from the crack ><