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Rudy Giuliani, Who Leads Trump's Legal Team, Admits in Federal Court That Trump's Legal Team Is Just Bullshitting About Fraud Allegations


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Jan 22, 2016
Eh, not all legal cases brought forward are about fraud. There can be multiple cases targeting different perceived errors in the system. The case quoted is not about fraud, it's about illegal election rule changes.
In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud
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that same article talks about two other cases in PA about whether the Trump lawyers were alleging voter fraud or not, and both lawyers said they did not have evidence nor were perusing voter fraud allegations. So this is what is going on in the courts right now. The rhetoric we're seeing from the public and social media is not the same rhetoric the lawyers are using in the courts. Their strategy is seemingly to buy enough time to stop any counting of the votes in the hopes--the hopes--that they're able to uncover some widespread voter fraud. Most of the affidavits are about the possibility of fraud because both republican and democratic poll watchers could not get close enough, though Trump won that case and reduced the distance from 20 feet to 6 feet.


Jan 21, 2008
What we're seeing right now is a repositioning of the Dem's approach. They're promoting the idea that it's not Trump trying to prove the election was rigged, it's Trump is trying to steal the election. This is why the media keep saying there's no proof and deliberately conflating some cases with others, as we're seeing here. What does that tell us? Trump must have a reasonable case to challenge the election. They're worried.
No it's the Trump legal team that are conflating the two, publicly talking about massive voter fraud and then in court trying to get votes thrown out on technicalities.
They have no proof of massive voter fraud - if they do and are instead stretching their legal team to breaking point challenge voting technicalities then what the fuck is wrong with them? If they have the evidence to save the country from a fraud that fundamentally undermines it's society why are they instead trying to save some guys job?


Jun 11, 2016
They have no proof of massive voter fraud -
They don't need to provide proof before triggering an investigation. The investigation is there to provide proof and Dems are working hard to make sure there are as few recounts and audits as possible. There is more than enough evidence for an investigation.
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Oct 21, 2018
Rudy's just making a big mess.

From his team's point of view...all that matters is the fact MAGA world still believes in his sales pitch, even though the courts aren't picking up all these trash allegations.
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Jul 4, 2020
how to re-educate the 70,000,000+ racist people in the country. A camp has been brought forth as a solution multiple times.
Ah i feel a lot better now <3



I know this day would come, but seeing red eyed Trump die hards backpedaling, reframing, deflecting the mounting evidence that this is just the final gasp of Trump is too sweet. If you back the unbackable, against all reason, for a political high, one day you'll get shown up.
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Jan 13, 2017
Chicago, IL, USA
Once again, when they lose and when Biden is sworn in, I will laugh at you and your fellows. You're all desperate, delusional fools.
And yet, for someone so confident in his convictions, you're in every. single. thread. on the topic, feverishly and exhaustingly arguing with, and taking jabs at, everyone who disagrees with you, over a situation that, as far as you're concerned, has a foregone conclusion.

So what does that make you?


Aug 30, 2014
Wait, they weren't allowed to present evidence?

“Today’s decision turns out to help us in our strategy to get expeditiously to the U.S. Supreme Court. Although we fully disagree with this opinion, we’re thankful to the Obama-appointed judge for making this anticipated decision quickly, rather than simply trying to run out the clock.
"We will be seeking an expedited appeal to the Third Circuit. There is so much evidence that in Pennsylvania, Democrats eliminated our opportunity to present 50 witnesses and other evidence that election officials blatantly ignored Pennsylvania’s law denying independent review. This resulted in 682,777 ballots being cast illegally, wittingly or unwittingly. This is just an extension of the Big Tech, Big Media, Corrupt Democrat censorship of damning facts the American public needs to know.
"We are disappointed we did not at least get the opportunity to present our evidence at a hearing. Unfortunately the censorship continues. We hope that the Third Circuit will be as gracious as Judge Brann in deciding our appeal one way or the other as expeditiously as possible. This is another case that appears to be moving quickly to the United States Supreme Court.”
— Rudy Giuliani, Attorney to President Trump and Jenna Ellis, Senior Legal Adviser to Trump 2020 Campaign


Jun 25, 2013
Lausanne, Switzerland
i hope this is sarcasm. sometimes i think people here want a dictatorship.
People here want Trump, anything anti-Trump is automatically socialist and Connor be Republican. Georgia government is crap and now Michigan judge is all part of deep state. Aren't you in the know? Should I send you picture of my lizard face? We're here! We're taking over!!!