Because they can't afford 2-3 years to wait. I know Its not necessary , But the Ip will lose steam after a certain point of time. Also , someone else could by that like EA and Ubisoft, then what , it will not be an exclusive to microsoft than.
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Rumor: Crytek(Frankfurt) hasn't paid wages (on time?)in 4+ months for 300+ employees
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Because they can't afford 2-3 years to wait. I know Its not necessary , But the Ip will lose steam after a certain point of time. Also , someone else could by that like EA and Ubisoft, then what , it will not be an exclusive to microsoft than.
What steam?
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Sure, but I imagine they will want to use the engine for the next five years at least. And if there is no support at all (from Crytek) due to there not being a Crytek anymore.. that doesn't sound too comforting considering how invested Chris Roberts is in the tech.
thomasmahler
Member
I don't think the IP had a lot of steam anyway. I feel the same way about it that I feel about The Order 1886.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Because it's a genre in which MS lacks, they have shown interest in buying it previously and a sequel could clearly be very good with some different decisions.
Dictator93
Member
CIG employ a larger number of people employed who are experts about the tech and have been actively deviating from the Crytek version for years now. It is frankly a non-issue.
They already have this. There are tons of Crytek veterans across all the studios.
Triggerhappytel
Member
He could easily hire a team of two dozen ex-Crytek guys to handle the tech in-house?
Aceshighhhh
Member
CIG employs Marco Corbetta, the original designer of the cryengine. I don't think they have too much to worry about
Like recognition , I know its not something decade old , But still the early they get there hands on the better it will be for the fans. (not related to valves steam ,if that what you mean, lol)
People stay on jobs where payment is late in the service industry like restaurants and these are low paying jobs.
If they can hang on for 2 months of this nonsense devs with much higher wages can tolerate this behavior for a bit longer.
Besides switching to another company isn't a fast process. It does take a month or two if you are moving out of a smaller company. If you are moving out one of the largest employers in the same industry you'll have greater difficulty finding a suitable replacement.
I think they mean that they hadn't been paid on time in 4 months, not having not been paid in 4 months.
chromatic9
Member
Always amazed how great the tech is but no-one can come up with anything over there.
They should've done something along the lines of Skyrim/Witcher 3. Ever since Crysis OG I thought you could make an incredible large scale RPG.
They should've done something along the lines of Skyrim/Witcher 3. Ever since Crysis OG I thought you could make an incredible large scale RPG.
Guerilla Games is a Dutch studio, located in the Netherlands. They are known for Killzone and Horizon Zero Dawn.
Crytek Frankfurt is a German studio, located in Germany. They are known for the graphics engine CryEngine and the Far Cry 1 and Crysis 1-3, Ryse, and Homefront games.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Why would you think that?
InsaneTiger
Member
Is this the second time this has been reported? WTF.
Bits N Pieces
Member
How do you pay your bills and eat for four months without an incoming wage? 
Tallshortman
Member
The IP has already lost steam.
Neuromancer
Member
Yikes. Best of luck to everyone over there. For what it's worth, I am buying Robinson: The Journey on day one and am greatly looking forward to it.
I like you.
I'm not even sure I ever played a game from them but the next time I want to hear about Crytek would be that they announce a new game (or release one) and that it's going to be a success and they're expanding.
We don't need to lose more studios.
well they wanted the IP previously and thats why the sequel was canned (because Crytek didn't want to sell it). Ryse with a few tweaks would be a solid game
Also they have no hack and slash game in their current lineup, so it would fill a spot
DemonCleaner
Member
yeah correct, if you are employed here in Germany, you are not working in a workplace but in work camp.
just curious, where are you both coming from?
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
I assume part of it is people with families in Germany that can't just seek other opportunities outside of the country that still want to work in games.
We don't really have a lot of "good"/internationally recognized studios here.
Besthelboy
Banned
They've rewritten 50% of the Engine, they haven't merged for over a year, they have full rights to their Engine, they're not very concerned about what's happening. They don't need support since they have some of the original creators on their team, and many engine programmers. However, they do need more so this is actually very good news for CIG if they can get a few more to cross lines. I'm sure they're working on it.
I do feel bad for the people at CryTek though, a great engine and everyone deserves to be paid.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
If I was working someplace and wasn't paid in 4 months I would be a total dick about it. I think I would just act like how Peter does in Office Space.
This could back up the information from the OP.
It's a post from a German gaming website from October 7 that mentions several people who work for Crytek contacting them about unpaid wages as well as advertising partners who haven't been paid in months.
https://gamezine.de/crytek-erneut-in-der-krise-interne-informationen-offenbaren-die-talfahrt.html
I have never heard of this site, so I'm not gonna translate the post. Does anyone know if gamezine.de is credible? German gaming sites have a tendency to just make up stuff for clicks.
It's a post from a German gaming website from October 7 that mentions several people who work for Crytek contacting them about unpaid wages as well as advertising partners who haven't been paid in months.
https://gamezine.de/crytek-erneut-in-der-krise-interne-informationen-offenbaren-die-talfahrt.html
I have never heard of this site, so I'm not gonna translate the post. Does anyone know if gamezine.de is credible? German gaming sites have a tendency to just make up stuff for clicks.
Going off of the grammar and spelling in that article, the site doesn't exactly seem overly professional to say the least. Of course, the actual content may still be accurate but when the first paragraph has that many mistakes in it, that doesn't make the article appear trust-worthy.
Lasthope106
Member
That's a damn shame. They are one of the most influential studios regarding graphics technology, and I just don't understand how they have lasted all this time given that their games weren't super successful. I don't want to see them close down but not paying their employees is super shitty. I know I would have quit if I worked in a company like that.
LelouchZero
Member
F***! I hope this isn't true, I hope the best for the employees.
I don't want to see Crytek disappear, they sound like they're in a lot of trouble, terrible if true.
I don't want to see Crytek disappear, they sound like they're in a lot of trouble, terrible if true.
Fuck that. I had my paycheck held once and I made it known to my manager that if my following paycheck wasn't on time I was out the door. One of the reasons I left the gaming industry for IT not too long after.
Game developers put in way too much work to have to deal with that bullshit. Especially with companies that make millions off their precious work hours.
Game developers put in way too much work to have to deal with that bullshit. Especially with companies that make millions off their precious work hours.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Put me on the "SELL THE DAMN RYSE IP TO MICROSOFT ALREADY" train.
Not because I care about Crytek as an entity, but an IP acquisition from MS could give them what they need to at least pay their employees. There are real people at this company who have apparently not been paid for their work in months.
That needs to be be remedied. By any means necessary.
Not because I care about Crytek as an entity, but an IP acquisition from MS could give them what they need to at least pay their employees. There are real people at this company who have apparently not been paid for their work in months.
That needs to be be remedied. By any means necessary.
thepenguin55
Member
Yeah, I'm sure that every single person there has been actively putting there resume out there because they would be crazy not to. I'm also sure it's extra hard for them because if you're not getting paid then that probably means you can't really afford to travel and outside of Crytek I don't really know of many game devs located in Germany. A real bad situation for those people all around.
60EffPeeEss
Member
Games companies, and likely other industries, sometimes include non-compete clauses in your contract, meaning you can't actively seek employment with other companies while contracted to them. They could easily just be trapped.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
This is the studio who is making hunt horrors of the gilded age?
Frankfurt is their main studio, which was responsible for the Crysis series. Hunt is/was made by Crytek US (ex-Vigil people), I believe.
UserDoesNotExist
Member
Who gives a **** when they're not paying you?
Seriously, what are the other companies going to do? Report you to your employer? Who will then fire you?
How will the company hold up the contract in court when they're not paying their employees in the first place? The reason contact law exists at all is because contracts are not absolute. I know we're cynics around here, but judges have a lot of power, and something that is as open-and-shut as "I didn't get paid for three months" is going to heavily prejudice them in your favor.
If anything, it's likely that Crytek is breaking laws that could get them into serious trouble, and they're hoping that their employees can be tricked into believing that they have no case to keep the con going.
PanicFreak
Member
Seconded.
If they just walk off from the company they will lose the severence package and unemployment benefits (which are/ used to be huge in Europe). During the bankruptcy process in most of EUs countries, workers are the first to be paid (just after the social security) plus there are some kind of public office that covers those unpaid salaries in case the trustee cant.
So they have to hold on there until, either, the company goes bankrupt or they find another job to jump in (losing "only" your severence package).
So they have to hold on there until, either, the company goes bankrupt or they find another job to jump in (losing "only" your severence package).
Off-Kilter
Banned
Four... months?
Acidote
Member
Just to leave a note here, not every country has the same working legislations.
Years ago I wasn't paid wages for six whole months. Administration process. I got my money like a year later from a sort of government insurance program for these cases and by then the business was managed by a new company that kept all the jobs.
That in addition to what Johnny M said.
Years ago I wasn't paid wages for six whole months. Administration process. I got my money like a year later from a sort of government insurance program for these cases and by then the business was managed by a new company that kept all the jobs.
That in addition to what Johnny M said.
So obviously this happened on a large scale two years ago. This past August I got a couple of anonymous tips from people saying that Crytek was missing payments again, but the tipsters wouldn't tell me who they were, and shortly afterwards, they followed up to say Crytek had paid. Clearly something's still going on.
