Red Arremer
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It's likely. I mean, they've been around since Day 1, and have made the transition to the next game iteration.
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Rumor: Downloadable Expansion To Marvel vs Capcom 3 Possibly Coming [Sven/Seth: No.]
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It's likely. I mean, they've been around since Day 1, and have made the transition to the next game iteration.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
I highly doubt it. Didn't Ultimate flop?
I'd be there Day 1, though. Capcom shouldn't be surprised when people stop buying their games on the first iteration.
I'd be there Day 1, though. Capcom shouldn't be surprised when people stop buying their games on the first iteration.
That's what moneyhats are for.
Which is fine, understandable, and even the people hating on Capcom (me included) follow the same theory n real life, lol.
My issue is that at times it feels you don't get the bang for the buck you should. Which is fine; Capcom is providing me with a service and if I feel it's worth it Ill either buy or don't (and obviously I do since ive double dipped on all their fighting game releases). Imho it's just dangerously close to a subscription system, but without the benefits (rock *SOLID* online, minimal bugs, etc). Then ypu have the other aspect of us creeping around the 'pay to win' elephant in the room
Subscription systems usually cost way more. This is closer to older expansion systems.
In what way is 15 dollars for 8 characters milking? How is that in ANY way a bad deal from a consumer perspective?
I don't know if it's way more.
Figure we are a year into vanilla MVC3. If you've gotten everything, (ultimate, the main constume pack, the minor one) you've spent..$125?
Divide that up and it's cheaper then WOW is today, but not by a HUGE amount..ten dollars a month as opposed to fifteen
Red Arremer
Member
This, and lol @ "minimal bugs" regarding game subscriptions.
Also, since we're at the topic, which game was it again that not only charges monthly subscription fees, but also forces the users to buy a base game, and yearly expansions for 60 dollars each? I think it was made by Blizzard and has to do with fantasy...
Yes, if you ignore the fact that you need to spend 100 dollars on the actual games themselves.
And again, I think UMVC3 was not a good deal, and should have been issued like this content was and that MVC3 should have had the features of Ultimate on release.
This however, is a fair deal.
Red Arremer
Member
This made me chuckle. Then shed a tear because it's true.
Well, we don't know if it would be 15 dollars, I'm not gonna cling to that pricing.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
UMVC3 announced as disc title: "NYEHHH IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DLC"
Possible UMVC3 Dlc: "I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE MAKING ANOTHER ONE"
For fucks sakes, it's like the people in the first couple of replies didn't even read the OP.... oh yeah that's right they didn't.
Possible UMVC3 Dlc: "I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE MAKING ANOTHER ONE"
For fucks sakes, it's like the people in the first couple of replies didn't even read the OP.... oh yeah that's right they didn't.
true.
But for Capcom's cheaper pricing they don't have to maintain huge server farms...im hoping in the alternate universe where im setting up this hypothetical situation they pass the savings down to us
I wave the white flag on this argument, lol.
Chaplain
Member
Not the $15 part. I am talking about Capcom releasing the regular version, then the super version and now extra characters through DLC. A better way would be just release the regular version for free and charge for all extra characters and updates.
So people get mad when ultimate comes out as a disc only upgrade a few months after the original comes out. Completely understandable. Rumor states that another upgrade is coming but it's going to actually be upgradeable from the disk itself as well as a full retail purchase. People still get mad. What? I could have sworn this is what people wanted them to do the first time around.
BassForever
Member
I'm glad I didn't end up splurging on UMVC3, now I can wait for UMVC3X... I feel so dirty saying that
Of course.
That's the problem though...I personally didn't mind paying for those new characters because there was a bunch of them and they were all quality (sorry Shuma and Jill)...however the real selling points..the balancee of xfactor, the clearly superior online, etc...those are things I feel like we should have gotten for free...by them either putting the game in the oven a few months longer or just have patched it in.
TheThunder
Member
I most definitely agree that characters are the most important thing in a fighting game, but wouldn't you agree to the same when it comes to UFC fighters or cars in a game like Need For Speed ? yet those games add new fighters/cars as dlc and yet they still let the online pool intact for the most part unlike Street Fighter 4 which now has 3 different versions to play online and that's where I disagree with capcom, not that I'm against further content to extended the game's life (already said if this true is true then it's value is way too good)
Well I guess this is where we differ on the issue.
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
Eh, fuck it. I want the characters and this game has already given me hours upon hours of entertainment. Is it shitty business practice? Absolutely.
We just feel like we just got forced with the double dip..why release Ultimate if you were going to improve on it not even a year later? We should have skipped straight to UMVC3X (lol at those letters) as opposed to making us drop $40 along the way
Diddy Kong
Banned
Still no Mega Man confirmed.
Red Arremer
Member
But AE and SSF4 players CAN play with each other. AE owners just can't play AE with SSF4 players, but they play SSF4 with them. The only game that's left in the dust here is vanilla SF4.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Retail-releases are better than patches imo when talking about tournaments. That should however mean that when they release it, it shouldn't need to be patched. Release a different version a couple of years later.
That's the problem though. AE is just a balance patch with extra characters. Imagine if Modern Warfare Elite players/dlc buyers had to manually go into another screen and had to chose 'vanilla' MW to play with their friends.
The way it's structured now just puts an artificial wall up and makes the player pool smaller
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
How so?
Has this been posted?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/178414902740910080
Basically, Niitsuma responded to the rumor by saying, "the DLC costumes are out, and for now that is all." He hasn't flat-out denied this.
https://twitter.com/#!/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/178414902740910080
Basically, Niitsuma responded to the rumor by saying, "the DLC costumes are out, and for now that is all." He hasn't flat-out denied this.
Red Arremer
Member
Do you wait a year or two before buying any game that has DLC announced?
TheThunder
Member
That's my point though, it should've been a universal balance patch then 4 new greyed out character slots show up in the character select screen and whether you want to buy them or not is your choice but it shouldn't affect you online when playing against the dlc fighters.
ColossalLazy
Member
I will be happy when they release it for PC.
New version every nine months? This is getting ridiculous.
I thought UMVC3 was going to be the last one because of Marvel licensing stuff anyway.
They won't. The Marvel license is apparently different for PC games.
I thought UMVC3 was going to be the last one because of Marvel licensing stuff anyway.
They won't. The Marvel license is apparently different for PC games.
akilshohen
Member
If this comes back, the hook was in place based on Nova's Alt alone. Plus the Avengers and Spiderman movie's need some support right?
Red Arremer
Member
OK, now I'm starting to grasp what you mean. You mean that the AE changes should've applied to SSFIV for free, but only the characters be exclusive paid content. Am I understanding you correctly here?
Then I can get behind your point, although I'm fine with how they actually handled it. It could've been worse.
ColossalLazy
Member
Why is it?
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
Mostly because of the way Ultimate was rushed to meet the November release window. Niitsuma talked before about how he wanted to add those extra 8 for Ultimate but couldn't because of deadlines. Basically this is what Ultimate could and probably would have been in the first place. Other than that I don't have many problems with it.
toastyToast
Member
This is good news if true, but I doubt it'll be that cheap. That's less than costume value pack which costs 1600 ($20); which leads me to believe it isn't.
Assuming it is true however, my wishlist that I posted earlier
Capcom
Demitri
Gene
Urien
Megaman
Marvel
Blade
Emma Frost
Venom
Dr Octopus
Assuming it is true however, my wishlist that I posted earlier
Capcom
Demitri
Gene
Urien
Megaman
Marvel
Blade
Emma Frost
Venom
Dr Octopus
Red Arremer
Member
Sentinel is now sitting in a corner, crying oily tears while being comforted by his drones.
Though I did chuckle at M-11. Wow. What an obscure character.
But yes... fucking Ultron...
Regular tournament play puts more demands on the competitive balance of a game and exposes flaws much more rapidly. Even if that's not an issue, you might still need patches for glitches discovered after release that affect gameplay. Furthermore, you still have to worry about unlocks with certain games like Soul Calibur V and KOF 13. From a tournament organizer's perspective, while it would be easier to just put a disc into a random console, it's pretty much a moot point by now.
TheThunder
Member
Yes, that's pretty much my point.
I realize a lot of people are ok with how capcom handled AE and I can understand that, I'm still hoping the situation will be better when(and if) it comes to UMVC3.
I still think this entire thing is fake though, simply on the absurd cost/value wise.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Back in Vanilla, they should've simply added Ultron with Sentinel's moveset. At least someone would care about him nowadays.
Angelcurio
Member
Thanks God i passed on UMVC3 and SFxTK. I felt extremely ripped off after I bought the Collectors Edition of MVC3 and just a couple of months later they announced UMVC3, and with a release date in the same year. I'll wait for the inevitable UMVC3X AE 2013.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I'm just wondering since the bolded gets brought up a lot, but what happens if this is the last iteration? Or what if they do release another one, but also iterate on that one again? When do you consider it "safe" to purchase?
rockman zx
Member
I was talking about SfxT and my desire to wait, I was not talking about Marvel.