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[Rumor] Final Fantasy VII Remake, new possible details, also regarding a possible new summon for the game

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If the rumor about Tifa is true prepare for this:
 
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If the rumor about Tifa is true prepare for this:
Please oh great lord Nomura.

Do not forsake us the long awaited return of the legendary waifu, Tifa Lockhart, who's face is radiant as her bosom is bountiful. See that we might bask in the incandescent beauty of her awesome rocking tits, which call forth reckonings of Japanese anime.

Lo, let it be made so that she be left kawaii desu ne, untainted by the whims of baka gaijin.

Praise be to Gaia
 

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Please oh great lord Nomura.

Do not forsake us the long awaited return of the legendary waifu, Tifa Lockhart, who's face is radiant as her bosom is bountiful. See that we might bask in the incandescent beauty of her awesome rocking tits, which call forth reckonings of Japanese anime.

Lo, let it be made so that she be left kawaii desu ne, untainted by the whims of baka gaijin.

Praise be to Gaia
Is it wrong that reading this gave me an erection?
 
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Great stuff. I expect a ffxvi announcement this e3 too.
I wouldn't. Square intends to only announce games when they're close to ready now, and last year they scraped any FFVII:R marketing plans to focus solely on KH3. My guess is that they're going to heavily focus on FFVII:R this time and only announce XVI when that is cleared out of the way.
 
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If the rumor about Tifa is true prepare for this:
And so the Tifa war begins....

Do you have a link to the source, OP?
Here is a link:
(information taken from Reddit)


I think the game could come out between November 2019 (at best) or January 2020.
The only thing I wonder about is, will it be released simultaneously in Worldwide, or will it be released first in Japan and then in the rest of the world?
(I ask this for the recent statements given by Nomura, after the launch of KH III)
 
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I think the game could come out between November 2019 (at best) or January 2020.
The only thing I wonder about is, will it be released simultaneously in Worldwide, or will it be released first in Japan and then in the rest of the world?
(I ask this for the recent statements given by Nomura, after the launch of KH III)
Does it really matter if it's like KH3, though? It was released a mere four or five days later. No biggie.
 

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Does it really matter if it's like KH3, though? It was released a mere four or five days later. No biggie.
I was not referring to the difference of only 2/3 days.

My possible concern was that, if I remember correctly, in one of the last interviews with Nomura (after the release of Kingdom Hearts 3), he said that the worldwide release had not satisfied him.
(I don't remember why)
And that he would have thought of if he would re-propose a worldwide release for his future games.
(For example, get it out first in Japan and 3 months later in the rest of the world)

I personally hope, and I prefer, that Final Fantasy VII Remake will always come out worldwide, to play with it as soon as possible.
 

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I realize this is getting my hopes waaaayyyyy too high, but god it would be nice to see Tifa close to this.

Pretty close to how I would imagine her. Strong, confident personality but also with some sex appeal. Unfortunately, it seems like nowadays you can only have one or the other with a created character.
 
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Wtf that doesn’t look like Tifa at all. Way to Asian looking
Definitely agree that her face is too Asian. The overall look of her hair, outfit, and body look absolutely spot on though. Give her facial structure a more European look and I think it's gold.
 

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So $120 for this?? That's insane.
$60 for 2 AAA games packed with content? That's insane.

If we are getting a brand new experience built from the ground up as a full length game, why would you expect that to not be full price?

This isn't just a reskin or an episodic model like the Walking Dead games.
 

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$60 for 2 AAA games packed with content? That's insane.

If we are getting a brand new experience built from the ground up as a full length game, why would you expect that to not be full price?

This isn't just a reskin or an episodic model like the Walking Dead games.
If it's two parts it's not two AAA games. There would be overlap of content like the open world.
 

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If it's two parts it's not two AAA games. There would be overlap of content like the open world.
Can a sequel not have the same world but expand it? Assuming it's a 2 parter that ends with the confrontation at the lost city, there are a lot of new areas and changes to the world that would occur in the 2nd part. Does size and quality of content not matter?
 

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If the rumor about Tifa is true prepare for this:
The funny thing is the left actually looks like a very true realistic take on Tifa's character art drawn by Nomura, but also happens to be a cute Japanese girl haha.
Also right one would be just as perfect with a less defined jawline. Great hair. But I love the way the artist used their colors for left much more.
 
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Can a sequel not have the same world but expand it? Assuming it's a 2 parter that ends with the confrontation at the lost city, there are a lot of new areas and changes to the world that would occur in the 2nd part. Does size and quality of content not matter?
Are people really trying to defend this?

If any other franchise did this, they would be chastised.

I get people want this game but come on. $120 for a remake is ridiculous. In a wolrd where people bitch non stop about over priced Gold editions of games and early access to games by buying the $120 version, this shouldn't be an exception.
 
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Are people really trying to defend this?

If any other franchise did this, they would be chastised.

I get people want this game but come on. $120 for a remake is ridiculous. In a wolrd where people bitch non stop about over priced Gold editions of games and early access to games by buying the $120 version, this shouldn't be an exception.
Name another example of a game on the scale of FFVII that got remade from the ground up in 1 game and then we can start making comparisons about people freaking out. Even name a game of the same genre as the remake that has the scale it's going for in one game.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm defending this. I have been waiting for almost 2 decades to see this happen, and I want to see it done right. If they say that they would not have been able to accomplish it in one game without making major cuts then I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If the game comes out and doesn't live up to its promise though, then yeah I'll be on the same boat. I understand people being skeptical, but it's not some insane move imo.
 
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Rumor sounds plausible since there are smaller details that he describes (like GIL instead of a membership card and a new summon), anyway if the game does end in Aerith's death, it'll look like this:

Part 1:
The Reactor #1 raid
Sector 7: At the hideout
The second raid: Reactor #5
Cross dressing at Wall Market
Sewers, Train Graveyard, and Pillar Assault
Back in the slums
Raiding Shinra HQ!
Flashback at Kalm Town
Chocobo Ranch, the Marshes, and the Mythril Mines
Junon
Mount Corel
The Gold Saucer and Corel Prison
Gongaga Village
Cosmo Canyon & Cave of the Gi
Nibelheim & Shinra Mansion
Mount Nibel
Rocket Town
Wutai
The Temple of the Ancients
Bone Village, The Sleeping Forest & City of the Ancients

Part 2:
Coral Valley Cave & Icicle Inn
The Great Glacier
Gaea's Cliffs
Whirlwind Maze
Escape from Junon
Mideel
The Huge Materia: Corel and Fort Condor
Cloud at Mideel
The Underwater Reactor
The Gelnika
A Space Odyssey 1997
The Key to the Ancients + Diamond Weapon
Stopping Midgar's Cannon!
The Northern Crater

1/3 of Part 1 consists of Midgar already so I'm guessing Midgar is as big as FFXV Royal Edition Insomnia. Part 2 is definitely smaller but I get feeling they're revisiting many locations and adding new content.
 
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Name another example of a game on the scale of FFVII that got remade from the ground up in 1 game and then we can start making comparisons about people freaking out. Even name a game of the same genre as the remake that has the scale it's going for in one game.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm defending this. I have been waiting for almost 2 decades to see this happen, and I want to see it done right. If they say that they would not have been able to accomplish it in one game without making major cuts then I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If the game comes out and doesn't live up to its promise though, then yeah I'll be on the same boat. I understand people being skeptical, but it's not some insane move imo.
I fail to see how the scale of this is massive. Witcher 3, Spiderman, god of war, etc all have MASSIVE scale. There's nothinf to indicate this is somehow going to bigger than those titles.

Even games in the shame genre such as their own game Final Fantasy 15 had massive scale.

They don't need to break it into two parts to do this. If games like Witcher 3 and God of War can acomplish what they have this gen there's zero reason why they can't do the same other than incompetence.

The spliting of this to me personally has always sounded like a way to milk this project because they know the fandom of this title will allow them to forgive any tactic to make more money even if it's a bad reason.
 
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I fail to see how the scale of this is massive. Witcher 3, Spiderman, god of war, etc all have MASSIVE scale. There's nothinf to indicate this is somehow going to bigger than those titles.

Even games in the shame genre such as their own game Final Fantasy 15 had massive scale.

They don't need to break it into two parts to do this. If games like Witcher 3 and God of War can acomplish what they have this gen there's zero reason why they can't do the same other than incompetence.

The spliting of this to me personally has always sounded like a way to milk this project because they know the fandom of this title will allow them to forgive any tactic to make more money even if it's a bad reason.
Your argument is essentially that no game can have less content than the Witcher 3 and cost the same or more than it.
 

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I’ll staet playing it when part 2 is out. Price will be lower for the first part and playing through a campaign too far apart time wise just kills the fun and feels for me.
 

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£120 for a remake that has a different combat system.

I've waited two decades for this, I can wait another five years to get both editions in a GOTY edition for £40
 
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I cannot believe this will only have two parts. Part one ending with aeris's death seems impossible. You know how LATE in the game this happens? No way nu square is able to create this much content in "only" 4 years. I fully expect part one to be only midgar (and that would suck).
 

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I can only hope that they have the balls to say "Fuck you" to the whiny bitches who have nothing better to do than complain that someone sexier than them exists.
I got a feeling that they won’t. They’ll probably give in. The RE2: Remake developers wanted Claire to look Bayonetta-ish and guess who wanted Claire to look more, “grounded” or regular in the final release?
 
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How did you get that from that? Because I didn't say that at all. I even have other games with smaller scale than Witcher 3.........

But ok.
You are complaining that games that are even larger than FFVII will cost less than the remake, and use the Witcher 3 as an example. What about all of the other games that are smaller than the Witcher 3? Why is it ok that they are smaller in scale, but its not ok that FFVII is?

I just don't understand how size has any bearing on retail price.
 
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You are complaining that games that are even larger than FFVII will cost less than the remake, and use the Witcher 3 as an example. What about all of the other games that are smaller than the Witcher 3? Why is it ok that they are smaller in scale, but its not ok that FFVII is?

I just don't understand how size has any bearing on retail price.
We are arguing the same thing? The person I repsonded to claimed the scope and size of ff7 remake justifies them charging $120 for it. To which my response was scale doesn't get a free pass to charge that much when these other games have a massive scale and didn't try to charge players twice.

If square is going to charge $120, at this point it's not confirmed that's their plan the OP states it's a rumor, then there needs to be a real good reason to charge twice for a remake of a game that wasn't originally split into two games.
 
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We are arguing the same thing? The person I repsonded to claimed the scope and size of ff7 remake justifies them charging $120 for it. To which my response was scale doesn't get a free pass to charge that much when these other games have a massive scale and didn't try to charge players twice.

If square is going to charge $120, at this point it's not confirmed that's their plan the OP states it's a rumor, then there needs to be a real good reason to charge twice for a remake of a game that wasn't originally split into two games.
Ah ok yeah I get what you are saying. I need to stop replying to threads I read immediately after waking up lol
 

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Rumor sounds plausible since there are smaller details that he describes (like GIL instead of a membership card and a new summon), anyway if the game does end in Aerith's death, it'll look like this:

Part 1:
The Reactor #1 raid
Sector 7: At the hideout
The second raid: Reactor #5
Cross dressing at Wall Market
Sewers, Train Graveyard, and Pillar Assault
Back in the slums
Raiding Shinra HQ!
Flashback at Kalm Town
Chocobo Ranch, the Marshes, and the Mythril Mines
Junon
Mount Corel
The Gold Saucer and Corel Prison
Gongaga Village
Cosmo Canyon & Cave of the Gi
Nibelheim & Shinra Mansion
Mount Nibel
Rocket Town
Wutai
The Temple of the Ancients
Bone Village, The Sleeping Forest & City of the Ancients

Part 2:
Coral Valley Cave & Icicle Inn
The Great Glacier
Gaea's Cliffs
Whirlwind Maze
Escape from Junon
Mideel
The Huge Materia: Corel and Fort Condor
Cloud at Mideel
The Underwater Reactor
The Gelnika
A Space Odyssey 1997
The Key to the Ancients + Diamond Weapon
Stopping Midgar's Cannon!
The Northern Crater

1/3 of Part 1 consists of Midgar already so I'm guessing Midgar is as big as FFXV Royal Edition Insomnia. Part 2 is definitely smaller but I get feeling they're revisiting many locations and adding new content.
Optional areas like Wutai can always be postponed to part 2, especially as they encompass a pretty big landmark.
 

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I fail to see how the scale of this is massive. Witcher 3, Spiderman, god of war, etc all have MASSIVE scale. There's nothinf to indicate this is somehow going to bigger than those titles.

Even games in the shame genre such as their own game Final Fantasy 15 had massive scale.

They don't need to break it into two parts to do this. If games like Witcher 3 and God of War can acomplish what they have this gen there's zero reason why they can't do the same other than incompetence.

The spliting of this to me personally has always sounded like a way to milk this project because they know the fandom of this title will allow them to forgive any tactic to make more money even if it's a bad reason.
So let me put it this way; FFVII has a massive overworld when you think in terms of the variety of locations, enemies, encounters, and the various activities to do in each location. My assumption is that the reason they are doing this in 2 parts is so that they can actually bring all of that forward into this game.

That is insane. Witcher 3 and Spider-Man are both fantastic games and while I haven't played the new God of War, I have only heard praise. I don't think they would boast the amount of content an open world action RPG of FFVII would have though. At least not if it is all being brought forward. Even FFXV which was truly massive, did not sport all of the things you could do in terms of travel and activities that FFVII potentially will.

I think a better question to ask though is if there is anything that could justify this being a 2 parter to you. What would this remake have to be for you to find 2 parts being justifiable? IS there anything?
 

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I'm gonna be "that" asshole and say that $120 in 2 payments of $60 is not a lot of money for a feature length RPG in 2019. Gaming is a cheap hobby. And games + story DLC are already close to that price point.
 
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Interesting info here. If they do any tone-down stuff here I would expect it would be to preserve a certain rating by the ESRB, rather than to cater to whining -- it could very well be a business thing. We don't have enough info to really know at this point.

I'm excited for this game, and I'm interested to see a modern take on the story and world I fell in love with a long time ago.
 
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Interesting info here. If they do any tone-down stuff here I would expect it would be to preserve a certain rating by the ESRB, rather than to cater to whining -- it could very well be a business thing. We don't have enough info to really know at this point.

I'm excited for this game, and I'm interested to see a modern take on the story and world I fell in love with a long time ago.
Yes, but if the whiners have infiltrated the ESRB then
 

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it is hilarious people comparing this to the original game and saying "yeah this should all be one game". as if a PS1 original can simply be scaled up 1:1 with no issue.

as if the flat 2D map of the original that served as a world map is the same as a fully realized and realistically modeled open world, as if that would take the same amount of time to develop as a single bitmap image.

as if text boxes placed above static character models is the same thing as fully voice acted characters, that have facial animation, and their mouths move to the dialog. yeah, a static text box probably takes the same time to program as the latter thing. /s

FFVII had no camera to speak of, they only spent time on the camera motions in cutscenes. does that mean the camera can be entirely ignored in the remake outside of cutscenes? no. devs have to work on it for all of the game now. it requires far more work.

they are two different games. two different approaches.

it's like that with pretty much every element of the game. a building you see from the front in a static image in the original game has to be rendered in 3D. every single element of the game is made more complex. the new games will literally have more depth than the old games.

look, we have to be realistic about the way games have changed since 1997. they are far more complex and interactive on every level. feel like people are seeing "part 1" and imagining if someone just handed them a copy of PS1 FFVII with only the first disc. it will not be like that. it will be a new game. this is why it is a RE MAKE. they are RE MAKE ing the game. new scale. new depth.
 
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