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RUMOR: NX more powerful than PS4, Splatoon/Mario Maker ports in development

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blu

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Would people buy the system if it was red???
I'm not buying it this year even if it was purple. I've made a .. certain deal.. involving my toys expenditures for the rest of the year.

ps: what's with the witchhunt? 10k was posting rumors and he clearly said so. The onus is with us to believe or disbelieve a rumor.
 

Bert

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I don't think we know nothing. While we don't have confirmation. I think it's safe to assume Madden, FIFA, and NBA will be there. I was under the impression that the leagues required the software makers to release at least one version on each home console per their agreement.

I may be wrong, so don't kill me on here. First time poster, long time lurker.

Wii U says hi.
 

The_Lump

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I don't agree. He made it look like he had sources. Not just copy/pasting unverified stuf he found on the web. What's next? One of his sources was the Reddit guy?


That was literally one instance. You're now implying all his info was copy and pasted from internet?

He seems to believe at least a couple of his sources are legit (one developer, some press). But either way, he contextualized it as requested by a mod.
 
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That's not a nice thing to do.
But the rumors aren't debunked then?

Not any more or less than they were before--except for the ones Emily debunked earlier today

That was literally one instance. You're now implying all his info was copy and pasted from internet?

He seems to believe at least a couple of his sources are legit (one developer, some press). But either way, he contextualized it as requested by a mod.

Forgive me if I don't trust someone who claims to have sources, but is later found to have fabricated at least one of them
 

MK_768

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Let's give 10K the benefit of the doubt guys: he wasn't trying to be deceptive. He said clear as day, right at the start, that these were rumours and to take with a pinch of salt.

I'm willing to believe any implication of rumours/tweets as facts was not done with any intention to deceive and was inadvertent. 10K seems like a genuine dude and not an attention seeker. No need to turn this into a witch hunt.

I'm not for punishing the guy or really getting that mad at him, but he wasn't quite transparent.

It is what it is. Hopefully people don't go on twitter and start shitting on him. He got carried away.
 

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Whoof, what a dealbreaker.

Well, the ports was the juiciest thing from the recent round of NX rumours for me, and that predates all this, so I'm glad that's still legit. Still pretty nuts.

Posting rumours is one thing, but you gotta be honest about them. If your sources are mostly just journalists, only one developer, and things that other people have said on twitter, that's the kinda thing that needs to be known right off the bad.

At least it's sorted out, but damn. I lost track of how many pages this thread got haha.
 

ozfunghi

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That was literally one instance. You're now implying all his info was copy and pasted from internet?

He seems to believe at least a couple of his sources are legit (one developer, some press). But either way, he contextualized it as requested by a mod.

Obviously he didn't contextualize it enough or he would have told us that "rumor" was about as credible as whatevery you find on Reddit.
 

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No, I don't know.
I'm just saying that he probably isn't the most reliable person, that's all.
I read the post and sounded like he was whining from being "stolen" although he presents no real proof too of what he is saying.

Correlation is not causation.

I don't get the whining part you're talking about, either. He was letting us know that 10k was basically using him as a source even though he never agreed to be a source for 10k. 10k made it sound like he was in a conversation with his sources, not that he was grabbing information from tweets on his TL and passing them off as 'his sources.' Zhuge was warning us, not trying to get credit.
 
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I'm not buying it this year even if it was purple. I've made a .. certain deal.. involving my toys expenditures for the rest of the year.

Purple is my favorite color so when I saw the Gamecube, I was in heaven.

Then I saw all these people in line getting the black ones and I felt sorry for them.
 

The_Lump

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He, quite literally, was deceptive.

What he did was essentially plagiarism.

Potentially. For one tweet. Which he said was a rumour.

Obviously he didn't contextualize it enough or he would have told us that "rumor" was about as credible as whatevery you find on Reddit.

He contextualized it in black and white. He said rumour, take with pinch your of salt etc.

We can debate his intentions, but like I said I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because I'm not a cynic.
 
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That reminds me of the pot and kettle parable

I know literally nothing else about Zhuge beyond today's events, but given he has screencaps, and 10k has admitted on Twitter it was a "scummy" thing for him to do, it seems he's right in this case

Potentially. For one tweet. Which he said was a rumour.

Potentially? It's a fact; 10k's admitted it. I don't see why it being just one is a saving grace
 

MK_768

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Would people buy the system if it was red???

My dream color console. When Wii (Revolution at the time) was shown off there was this picture with different color Wiis and Wii remotes. I wanted the red one so badly. I felt deceived when the system only came out in white at launch. lol

I want a nice red console dammit.
 

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I think he should be juniored and slapped on the wrist at least. He was not at all clear how shaky his "sources" were and posted very much like he was some kind of insider. It's not cool and if a genuine mistake then a slap on the wrist is fine. If not he should be banned, but you can't prove intent could be stupidity rather than malice here.
 

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Wii U wasn't capable of working with modern iterations and the future evolution of Ignite or Frostbite. They didn't avoid porting the engine just because Nintendo.

What's that got to do with the idea that the games must be here because the licence holders demand it?

Also, there FIFA on mobile FFS, and PS360, all less capable than Wii U.

There's no FIFA on Wii U for the same reason there no more FIFA on Vita: the market isn't there to justify it. That could easily apply to NX.
 

The_Lump

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I know literally nothing else about Zhuge beyond today's events, but given he has screencaps, and 10k has admitted on Twitter it was a "scummy" thing for him to do, it seems he's right in this case



Potentially? It's a fact; 10k's admitted it. I don't see why it being just one is a saving grace

Because he may have heard it elsewhere aswell? Hell, I heard it elsewhere aswell. It was a pretty widely discussed proposition.
 

ozfunghi

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I think he should be juniored and slapped on the wrist at least. He was not at all clear how shaky his "sources" were and posted very much like he was some kind of insider. It's not cool and if a genuine mistake then a slap on the wrist is fine. If not he should be banned, but you can't prove intent could be stupidity rather than malice here.

Gaf moderation is at fault here too. He presented his intel. The mods should have been more strict, at least with the sources like some random tweet. Or force him to be more straight forward in explaining where his info came from.
 

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This was all an elaborate trick to get Emily or other insiders to comment on the NX's power. Like how the fake controller rumor got Gameinformer to post it's controller rumor.

Praise be to 10k.
 

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I think he should be juniored and slapped on the wrist at least. He was not at all clear how shaky his "sources" were and posted very much like he was some kind of insider. It's not cool and if a genuine mistake then a slap on the wrist is fine. If not he should be banned, but you can't prove intent could be stupidity rather than malice here.

Yikes
 

ozfunghi

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Because he may have heard it elsewhere aswell? Hell, I heard it elsewhere aswell. It was a pretty widely discussed proposition.

You have to see the difference between him getting his leg pulled by a source that seems credible. Or him just taking some random and public rumor off the web and posting it as coming from a secret source. Right?
 

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Gaf moderation is at fault here too. He presented his intel. The mods should have been more strict, at least with the sources like some random tweet. Or force him to be more straight forward in explaining where his info came from.
They never verified him, and he never claimed to be an insider. Not much to be done. This is why it's not a good idea to make new threads when a gaffer shares information, whether it comes directly from them or not, unless that person creates the thread themselves.
 

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So was 10k's bullshit T1 or T4? I can't decide.
 

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What's that got to do with the idea that the games must be here because the licence holders demand it?

Also, there FIFA on mobile FFS, and PS360, all less capable than Wii U.

There's no FIFA on Wii U for the same reason there no more FIFA on Vita: the market isn't there to justify it. That could easily apply to NX.
Those systems had an established base. The Frostbite titles were there because EA demanded it not because it was practical- it was a dumpster fire to pull off.

The games werent there because the system was weak and new to the market.
 

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So right now we're at the beginning again. Trev's leaks/rumors are now the only ones who hasn't been debunked and that's the only thing I need now considering he confirmed Zelda U will be on NX as well and that is just great.
 

ozfunghi

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Guys I haven't been paying attention in the past 48 hours. What happened?

Basically nothing happened. Literally. We're back at LCGeek's info on the hardware (CPU) and have no clue other than the specs are "good" from Emily Rogers.
 

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Then where would they talk about the games? They'd be putting too much at risk if Nintendo saves everything for E3 (not to mention a potentially-overstuffed presentation). It also wouldn't leave Nintendo too much time to hype up the platform.

Maybe Im not remembering things right, but I thought the E3 where they revealed the DS and some of its games on top of other GBA and GCN games did well.
 
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