Dwight Schrute
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Wait... TR and Rise are hated on here? Though people were actually liking the reboots?
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Rumor: Shadow of the Tomb Raider leaked [Up: Kotaku says real, by Eidos Montreal]
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So basically RIP CD?
Salty Hippo
Member
Uncharted fans feel threatened because a game of the same genre does a couple of things better than Uncharted ever did.
It's silly, I know.
Chobel
Member
Oh I totally forgot about it.
Wow, odd to see CD not continuing to helm development, but I'm psyched to see Eidos Montreal's take.
I'd say it's generally liked, just with some sharp critiques.
I'd say it's generally liked, just with some sharp critiques.
Smiles and Cries
Member
don't do work in public spaces lol
JuanLatino
Member
they are working on a new ip
SliChillax
Member
People aren't allowed to have opinions? These ironic responses so stupid.
There's nothing constructive in yours too. He was right, quoting a metacritic score (or an imaginary "most people who play it enjoy it" doesn't say anything about the quality of the game. It doesn't mean it's not a quality game, it just means this isn't a proof.
The whole Uncharted series is both a caricature and an anthem to action/adventure movies, of course on the outside it looks cliché and works on the same kind of characters and narrative mechanics. These games are masterpieces because of their game design anyway.
privitsan02
Member
These comments come off as more fanboyish than the Uncharted comparisons.
Also people need to stop working in the metro in Montreal. Too many people in there lately to just snap a pic.
Best wishes.
It's a weird one. I like it and hate it at the same time. Amazing gameplay mechanics, especially in Rise, but I can't effectively love games with such awful characters and storytelling.
Eidos helming the new one gives me hope this could be different.
That was the marketing. Lara's in-game characterisation wasn't sexualised at all (despite many of her outfits being way too revealing) and back then she was a way more interesting character than she has been since Crystal took over the franchise despite (or possibly because) not nearly talking as much.
Lionel Richie
Member
So is the series called The Tomb Raider now?
Alright lets hope Eidos just helps CD out. I would be pissed if CD no longer helms the next Tomb Raider.
However two month ago CD officially announced Ian Milham from EA joined them "in the role of Game Director on the Tomb Raider franchise".
http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/149512745285/ian-milham-joins-crystal-dynamics-crystal-dynamics
Maybe Eidos just helps CD?
However two month ago CD officially announced Ian Milham from EA joined them "in the role of Game Director on the Tomb Raider franchise".
http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/149512745285/ian-milham-joins-crystal-dynamics-crystal-dynamics
Maybe Eidos just helps CD?
Uncharted kinda sucks too. I've never been able to get into it. The fact that CD moved the franchise closer to Uncharted is a big part of my issues with it.
It'll probably be a Batman: Arkham Origins-type situation where Crystal controls the overall direction and overarching story of the franchise and Eidos has to try and mimick their game design style from the previous two games. (Though personally, I'd like to see what happens if Eidos were given full creative control and the freedom to deviate from Crystal's reboot formula as much as they wanted... maybe even go back to something that vaguely resembles a Tomb Raider game again.)
Salty Hippo
Member
If someone says Uncharted is a garbage-tier embarrassment, will people respect that "opinion"?
There is opinion and then there is just plain baseless hyperbolic bullshit. So please, allow me to be ironic and to have my own opinion about some of other people's opinions. Thank you.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Bullshit. As someone who doesn't like TR 2013 it has nothing to do with Uncharted. Any dislike is purely on them for having design aspects that were never fleshed out and a bad story. That's completely ignoring the game still contains ideas that were tied to original open world survival design that never worked out.
It's called criticism and it can be made without ulterior motives.
Dreadnought
Member
But that's my birthday
SprachBrooks
Member
It's always the worst photographers that manage to land such newsworthy pictures lol.
flaxknuckles
Member
They are gonna have to switch up something if they are making a new Deus Ex after Mankind Divided flopped. I propose they turn it into sci-fi Skyrim and gimme a 3rd-person view and character creation.
As long as it's straight mulitplatform and they don't shoehorn in a useless multiplayer they should be fine. I'll be positive and say at worst there will be some exclusive ad shenanigans.
not sure how they fuck over the other one
deus ex will not get a sequel
rise of the tomb raider will
one game flopped, the other clearly didn't. apart from final fantasy, square are not going to make a new entry to a franchise if it failed. hitman is some episodic thing, thief is dead, deus ex is going to bed for a long time
This better not have any impact on the development of the next Deus Ex. Then again it's probably the Thief-team, which would not bode well for TR3 either.
SE's usual unrealistic expectations aside, who said that Deus Ex: MD flopped? I only read an article that the UK sales weren't groundbreaking.
SE's usual unrealistic expectations aside, who said that Deus Ex: MD flopped? I only read an article that the UK sales weren't groundbreaking.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Aren't they working on a new IP?
SliChillax
Member
This makes me wanna cry like a baby
Anything that goes wrong at Eidos Montreal I just blame Gaf's very own BY2K.
TheJollyCorner
Member
"Shadow of the Tomb Raider"... sheesh that name... :/
I'm actually not even sure what Square Enix will do with the series after Mankind Divided allegedly underperformed (unless that has changed)
Steamspy has it at 385.000 copies if I read this right:
http://steamspy.com/app/337000
Assuming X1 and PS4 sales are at least the same then it's at above 1,1 million already. This "flop"-talk at this point seems like a purposefully perpetuated meme by some people.
My understanding is that Eidos Montreal is working on one TR game and CD is working on another, but they both collaborate.
Crossing Eden
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TR and ROTR both have fantastic gameplay so there's nothing unfortunate about building on that. There are just some small tweaks that would make them GOAT material on the gameplay front.
But wasn't there this rumour that said it needed to sell 3 million units to break even?
ArgyleReptile
Banned
And with this news, I'm interested in Tomb Raider again.
Caddyshack
Banned
Not gonna miss CD. Hopefully EM does something interesting with the franchise again and tries to give it a bit of it's own identity back.
100% agree.
100% agree.
Primethius
Banned
Still a chance I'll like it more then the CD stuff.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Maybe not GOAT but aside from that, what is so surprising about that opinion? The game is great, the metascore is 88% and even the steam rating is 91% positive at the moment.
So that means Eidos will probably just try to copy CD's reboot formula. That's disappointing (but not unexpected).