The Pleasure
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[Rumor] Xbox Series X Seagate 1TB SSD Expansion Priced at $219.99
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Shameful if true.
Phrixotrichus
Banned
Uh boy, that recalls "the good old times" where you had to sell a kidney for a memory card.
Honestly im suprise it doesn't cost more. But the 2TB version is going to be insanely expensive.
DaGwaphics
Member
Yikes, hoping that's fake.
Craig of War
Banned
Custom NVME are expensive but 219 for 1tb for a 299 console is suicidal. Has to be fake.
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Rollingrock
Neo Member
Is it possible to use my 4tb external hdd I've got hooked up on my one s to play games on the series s? Or is it just for storage? If so then all my old games will stay on the hdd and that'll be ok for the next 2-3 years.
TheGrat1
Member
I am going to choose to not believe this. If this was true it means MS is telling me this thing is worth 2/3 of a Series S, to which I say:
Uhhhhh, do you think the Series S is getting it's own version of games? 99% chance it shares the file with the Series X just like the One Family.
LeftThumbstick
Member
If you think that’s bad, wait until you see the prices for PS5 SSD expendable storage
DynamiteCop!
Banned
I don't buy it, the Series S as an entire system is $299.99 with a drive half the size, that price doesn't really seem to bear out.
$149.99 seems like something more realistic.
$149.99 seems like something more realistic.
Silent Viper
Banned
Nothing to see here
BusierDonkey
Member
This has got to be in Canadian dollars.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Well, damn. It's been a while since I bought my Samsung EVO 500GB SSD. So, I checked current prices of SSDs to make sure that I don't make an ass out of myself by suggesting that $219.99 isn't unreasonable, and I'm surprised that they're so cheap. You can get a 1 terabyte SSD for about $100.00!
CamHostage
Member
And it has to fit the M.2 slot, which unfortunately may not always be the case as I believe there's not a firm standard for these even though that long bubblegum stick shape seems to be sticking. (You actually have to check size a lot of times on your home PC, especially if you're adding a new M.2 to your laptop.) We haven't heard anything new about PS5's expansion slot, and by the time users actually need space to add on the drives they need may be abundant and slowly coming down in price (everybody's eager to get into Sony's market, and this being really the dawn of regular-consumer demand for M.2 (PCs have had access to them for a while but I don't know that your average PC user has messed with them yet, even if they've in the past change out their own HDDs?), so there will be an expanding range of choices for PS5 owners, but at November's launch, choices will be slim if any.
Microsoft's add-on is encased and will only have a few SKUs of sizes, so in a way it's good they have consumer-ready design ... but this being a proprietary card, you'll have to pay what MS charges.
Pricing SSDs is super confusing because there's sizes and there's speed and MTBF ratings and M.2 versus SATA and PCIe versions and a mess of other acronyms and codenames and stuff (and the card that Microsoft showed off looked to be the size of like a matchbook, which I'm not sure matches any sizes I can find in M.2, it looks kind of more like an mSATA card in a case?) Xbox Series X/S Expansion Card provider Seagate has a couple products to look at in comparison, sort of: the Seagate Firecuda 510 M.2 M.2 2280 double-sided (3450MB/s Read) goes for $190 for a TB, and the Barracuda 510 M.2 2280 single-sided (3400MB/s Read) goes for a little less at $150 for 1TB. And the Xbox Series X itself depends on its SSD rated at just 2.4GB/s speed. So...math.
(...it's late, somebody please correct everything I got wrong. But even if this "leak" is bullshit, anybody expecting add-on SSDs to be cheap this November is bound to have a bad time in store for them.)
Right? I get it, there's pain to new system purchases, but as an old-timer, it does feel a bit weird to me that everybody's expecting the Series X and PS5 to have everything the consoles will ever need right in the box for one friendly price tag. It wasn't too long ago for me when the HDD-less Xbox 360 Arcade package shipped with so little storage space that MS had to force developers to slice their games up so that some of them could cram them on the 256 MB storage drive; the $150 "HDD Tax" got you an add-on 120GB that made the hardware viable finally. And before that Memory Cards were a pre-requisite buy for every console you owned (and not just one but a handful and sometimes even a half-dozen memory cards were needed if you really gamed hard.)
Kids these days...
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mcjmetroid
Member
I'm sorry has a blurry picture leak EVER been true in the history of gaming?
EliTheIceMan
Member
Random guy (?) so take it with a grain of salt, still I can see this happening:
Wow that’s is expensive
prinz_valium
Member
$199 sure
But $219 seems wrong.
Maybe it's $CAD
But $219 seems wrong.
Maybe it's $CAD
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Plus there's Xbox tax. These cards use proprietary tech so MS will take their share of every sale. These cards will never be as cheap as a regular SSD.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Controllers able to support those speeds are already in the b2b channel, before this christmas there'll be compatible ssds.
This is fake or just a placeholder. There is no way that it is that expensive. Seems more like someone just wanted to start rumors because Xbox got some positive press.
I really expect something like 80€ for the 1tb drive. It is only a card with flash chips. No expensive controller or cache. This thing is much cheaper in production than a 1tb Sata SSD.
Also a partner deal like between Ms and Seagate only makes sense if they were able to get a good price for the product. Else they would have also invited other manufacturers to release such memory sticks.
I really expect something like 80€ for the 1tb drive. It is only a card with flash chips. No expensive controller or cache. This thing is much cheaper in production than a 1tb Sata SSD.
Also a partner deal like between Ms and Seagate only makes sense if they were able to get a good price for the product. Else they would have also invited other manufacturers to release such memory sticks.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
1TB nvme of that same speed (wd blue) goes for 100 bucks on amazon, you can probably find it for under 100.... this is over 2x the price.
I remember posters here going all ooh aah propietary is much better than letting you buy one off the market lol when it was announced.
longdi
Banned
Nay PS5 slot should fit all m.2 ssd of a same standards form factor.
The issue is the heatsinking part. Fast m.2 ssd have big variable heatsinks, will these ssd+heatsinks fit into PS5 slot?
or Sony have to add extra costs to PS5 with its own extra heatsinking cover for the slot.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
How fast are NVME SSDs compared to SATA SSDs? Also, do they suffer from less latency? I have only a SATA SSD, which is a Samsung EVO 500GB unit; however, my motherboard (Asus X99 Deluxe) came with PCIe 3.0 expansion cards, one of which is for M.2. NVME devices. I've never used it and am thinking about finally doing so.
ZywyPL
Banned
The consoles can be sold at the production costs or even at a loss, software sales will make up for it, but when it comes down to additional accessories, they have to make a profit the moment you pay for them, for example the controllers are like 8 bucks to make and is included with the console, but when you buy additional one it 60$ or so. The proportions are seriously off compared to Series S price, but that;s the way it goes, I won't be surprised if this price turns out to be true. Who knows, maybe that's exactly MS strategy, to cut down the drive space (and other components) to get as low price as possible for the Series S, many people will buy it, but eventually they will have to upgrade their storage with no other option than 200$ expansion drive.
ANIMAL1975
Member
The (defense) Force very strong with this two is. I feel this
sendit
Member
Why would you want to do that? That is whole-fully inefficient and provides unnecessary wear on the drive.
The 970 EVO is rated at speeds greater than the XSX drive and is cheaper at 1 TB. Additionally, you can get a Sabrent 1TB M.2 Gen4 drive that is over twice the speed of the XSX drive at 1 TB for less as well.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Maybe XBSS can't get additional storage...
Kagey K
Banned
It has additional storage.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You mean it can get additional SSD storage?
Link?
Kagey K
Banned
It’s going to have the same expansion slot on the back, I have no link, but you are silly if you think otherwise.
Going to have to wait until the official reveal, but I’ll bookmark this post, just so you can get the info you already know, but seem to need.
baphomet
Member
Literally everything you've said here is incorrect.
It is most definitely that expensive
It is not just a "card with flash chips"
We know the phison controller it uses
It's fucking ridiculous to think this is cheaper to make than a 1TB ssd
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The controller-chip is in the xbox
the card only contains the flash-cells (qlc, tlc, or whatever)
no cache on the card
the flash-chips itself are really cheap. what makes SSDs so expensive are the controller chip and the cache-memory.
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Random guy (?) so take it with a grain of salt, still I can see this happening:
That's almost 20K RUB (Incl. VAT). JFC.
Night.Ninja
Banned
People are just out of touch with how expensive these drives are, if thats the price for a Xbox 1TB drive imagine the price of a 7GB+ speed NVMe drive for the PS5.
JerryinSoCal
Member
Sony isn't having an official one made so it's hard to have one that costs double when you aren't making one to begin with.
PS5 games quite possibly will be more/better compressed since we now know it will be using oodle kracken and oodle texture kraken.
captainraincoat
Banned
Wait for the Sony one....those vita memory cards sure were value
Since its open market the price will come down, especially when NVME PCIE 5.0 drives come out.
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