Rumour: Diddy Kong Racing 2 became Excitebots; Monster Games working on DKR2 for WiiU

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I'm currently playing through DKR for the first time in over a decade so this rumor has me super stoked. I'm scared it would feel weird without some of that Rare magic though :( hopefully they could get whoever composed the original (Kirkhope? David Wise?) to return at least.
 
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I do recall one where someone just blatantly said a 4P Mario game, a new DKC game and whatnot where Wii-bound before E3 2009.

I'm currently playing through DKR for the first time in over a decade so this rumor has me super stoked. I'm scared it would feel weird without some of that Rare magic though :( hopefully they could get whoever composed the original (Kirkhope? David Wise?) to return at least.
David Wise.
 
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But he's in DKRDS. He's a Diddy kong character that showed up in Banjo as a cameo.
Diddy Kong Racing DS was made by Rare for Nintendo. MS allowed Rare to do it. It's possible they also allowed Rare to include Rare-owned characters.

Conker and Banjo might not be the only DKR characters owned by Rare... they just might be the only two MS wouldn't permit to be included in the port.
 

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I'll buy several copies on a monthly basis and name my first son DKR2 if this happens.
 

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I'm thinking you're more interested in the more recent leaks. Then as examples there could be Smash 4 + Brawl characters leak, Retro working on DKC right before it was unveiled, Cranky Kong being a playable character in Tropical Freeze leaked early as did the delay, Mario Maker and YouTube for 3DS/Wii.

Of course something like this thread's topic would turn correct then that would top them all. It won't though because at a best it's a fan's pipedream.
 

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DKR2 to be released in 2016, codeveloped by monster and retro. monster is handling the 3ds version while retro takes care of the wii u

it has a longer development cycle than usual because it will be the first 'unified' game (ala Smash Bros) produced by Nintendo of America. it is far and away Nintendo of America's largest project to date. All NoA hands are on deck, including redmond's NST

the article in the OP got a few things right:

- The of success of MKWii was certainly one of the driving factors behind NoJ's renewed interest in DKR2

- it is no coincidence that Retro was involved with the creation of MK7 (since when does EAD work with 2nd party American devs??)

- it is no coincidence that Monster helped Retro with DKCTF

- Tanabe is a key player and is largely responsible for making this all happen

and he got some things wrong, mainly about the politicing between Rare/MS/Nintendo.

some more info

- SPD3 (Kensuke Tanabe's USA wing) and NoA have been granted significantly more funding and freedom going forward regarding game software development

- Amiibo's were critical in reviving NoJs interest in DKR2. internal forecasts show Amiibo's will sell like hotcakes and nintendo is going to make amiibos of nearly every franchise they have ever owned. one major objective of the game is to boost the popularity of lesser known franchises in order to push amiibos

- let me preface this next one. Right now the corporate MO is unification. believe it or not, nintendo has been making serious strides on the backend to become a more modern company and they have nearly finished restructuring their datacenters in both the US and Japan. Unified Accounts, Unified Operating System. Unified Everything. in the same sense nintendo is trying to unify NoJ and NoA by empowering NoA to develop original IPs (thru independent and indie devs) and strengthen existing B team brands from Japan

- at the same time, NoA is trying to unify its core developers in america to match the new model in japan (think smash bros)
 

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DKR2 to be released in 2016, codeveloped by monster and retro. monster is handling the 3ds version while retro takes care of the wii u

it has a longer development cycle than usual because it will be the first 'unified' game (ala Smash Bros) produced by Nintendo of America. it is far and away Nintendo of America's largest project to date. All NoA hands are on deck, including redmond's NST

the article in the OP got a few things right:

- The of success of MKWii was certainly one of the driving factors behind NoJ's renewed interest in DKR2

- it is no coincidence that Retro was involved with the creation of MK7 (since when does EAD work with 2nd party American devs??)

- it is no coincidence that Monster helped Retro with DKCTF

- Tanabe is a key player and is largely responsible for making this all happen

and he got some things wrong, mainly about the politicing between Rare/MS/Nintendo.

some more info

- SPD3 (Kensuke Tanabe's USA wing) and NoA have been granted significantly more funding and freedom going forward regarding game software development

- Amiibo's were critical in reviving NoJs interest in DKR2. internal forecasts show Amiibo's will sell like hotcakes and nintendo is going to make amiibos of nearly every franchise they have ever owned. one major objective of the game is to boost the popularity of lesser known franchises in order to push amiibos

- let me preface this next one. Right now the corporate MO is unification. believe it or not, nintendo has been making serious strides on the backend to become a more modern company and they have nearly finished restructuring their datacenters in both the US and Japan. Unified Accounts, Unified Operating System. Unified Everything. in the same sense nintendo is trying to unify NoJ and NoA by empowering NoA to develop original IPs (thru independent and indie devs) and strengthen existing B team brands from Japan

- at the same time, NoA is trying to unify its core developers in america to match the new model in japan (think smash bros)
I'm not sure you understand how publishers work
 

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DKR2 to be released in 2016, codeveloped by monster and retro. monster is handling the 3ds version while retro takes care of the wii u

it has a longer development cycle than usual because it will be the first 'unified' game (ala Smash Bros) produced by Nintendo of America. it is far and away Nintendo of America's largest project to date. All NoA hands are on deck, including redmond's NST

- Tanabe is a key player and is largely responsible for making this all happen

- Amiibo's were critical in reviving NoJs interest in DKR2. internal forecasts show Amiibo's will sell like hotcakes and nintendo is going to make amiibos of nearly every franchise they have ever owned. one major objective of the game is to boost the popularity of lesser known franchises in order to push amiibos
I'm gonna have to finally come out and be "that guy" in this thread.
Never thought this would be something I could say, but I have a line of communication with Monster, and while I can't confirm 100% it's DKR2, I can confirm, perhaps well outside my comfort level, that they're working on something for the WiiU that is pretty much talked about by everyone involved as the most exciting thing to be done on WiiU yet, and that they are certain it's going to blow people away upon reveal.
I genuinely wasn't told details because while I may want to know, I don't trust myself with that much knowledge, so it's likely best they didn't either.
More fuel to the fire; Nintendo might have bought Timber in Oct 2012:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/68157356

My emotions, please be so. :(

All of these insiders and inside info popping up out of nowhere.
 

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Wonder if we'll get any mods to pull the "show us proof that there's a chance you're not full of crap or shift out of gamefaqs mode" deal with the "insiders" in this thread. I remember them doing that once or twice in the past few years
 

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Whenever this thread is bumped I get giddy. Please let this happen. Nintendo... please.
 

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By far, FAR the best game that Rare ever made. I would be so EXCITEd if they brought this series back.
 

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Man, all of these supposed insiders make me think there is fuel to this, or it's just compounding on hype. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a plan to 'unify' development ala Smash Bros (if this exists); that seems Nintendo's future. To unify their future as a brother/sister ecosystem with their products.
 

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DKR2 to be released in 2016, codeveloped by monster and retro. monster is handling the 3ds version while retro takes care of the wii u

it has a longer development cycle than usual because it will be the first 'unified' game (ala Smash Bros) produced by Nintendo of America. it is far and away Nintendo of America's largest project to date. All NoA hands are on deck, including redmond's NST

the article in the OP got a few things right:

- The of success of MKWii was certainly one of the driving factors behind NoJ's renewed interest in DKR2

- it is no coincidence that Retro was involved with the creation of MK7 (since when does EAD work with 2nd party American devs??)

- it is no coincidence that Monster helped Retro with DKCTF

- Tanabe is a key player and is largely responsible for making this all happen

and he got some things wrong, mainly about the politicing between Rare/MS/Nintendo.

some more info

- SPD3 (Kensuke Tanabe's USA wing) and NoA have been granted significantly more funding and freedom going forward regarding game software development

- Amiibo's were critical in reviving NoJs interest in DKR2. internal forecasts show Amiibo's will sell like hotcakes and nintendo is going to make amiibos of nearly every franchise they have ever owned. one major objective of the game is to boost the popularity of lesser known franchises in order to push amiibos

- let me preface this next one. Right now the corporate MO is unification. believe it or not, nintendo has been making serious strides on the backend to become a more modern company and they have nearly finished restructuring their datacenters in both the US and Japan. Unified Accounts, Unified Operating System. Unified Everything. in the same sense nintendo is trying to unify NoJ and NoA by empowering NoA to develop original IPs (thru independent and indie devs) and strengthen existing B team brands from Japan

- at the same time, NoA is trying to unify its core developers in america to match the new model in japan (think smash bros)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naqY7p6_HHQ


What is HAPPENING? I'm gonna go lock my heart in a safe until all this stuff blows over. I just can't deal with all these rumor updates.
 

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Have we really ever had a leak this informative before? Especially one that's so far away?
 

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Wow... are these posts mod verified?

Curious about the Timber thing as well, you'd think Nintendo would grab the entire cast while they're at it. (Assuming this isn't BS)
 

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Wow... are these posts mod verified?

Curious about the Timber thing as well, you'd think Nintendo would grab the entire cast while they're at it. (Assuming this isn't BS)
Assuming they tried, they probably couldn't. Microsoft probably had them priced too high.
 

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Timber and Taj are the most important, but I would've thought Taj would take #1 priority due to him being in Donkey Kong Racing.
Agreed. Taj is the second character that comes to mind for me when I think of Diddy Kong Racing. If I were Nintendo, I'd just roll with the whole idea of turning Diddy Kong Racing into a Kart game for obscure and lesser known Nintendo characters.
 

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I think the Timber rumor is BS simply because the rumor made no mention of DKR2 and said that he would appear in guest roles in upcoming games, which he hasn't. Plus if Nintendo were willing to invest hard in a sequel/reboot, I don't think they'd cheap out on characters unless MS wanted a ludicrous sum.
 

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I do recall one where someone just blatantly said a 4P Mario game, a new DKC game and whatnot where Wii-bound before E3 2009.
Yes this was legit, guy on gametrailers forums leaked NSMBWii, DKCR and Metroid Other M way in advance of their reveal. He also leaked details of Skyward Sword way in advance. Definitely one I'll remember.
 
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I think the Timber rumor is BS simply because the rumor made no mention of DKR2 and said that he would appear in guest roles in upcoming games, which he hasn't. Plus if Nintendo were willing to invest hard in a sequel/reboot, I don't think they'd cheap out on characters unless MS wanted a ludicrous sum.
Well IF it's true, he's not in MK8 for the same reason Diddy isn't, and perhaps they didn't see fit for him to be in World Tour. Smash might be the opportunity unless they want to wait until they announce DKR2 so as to not "ruin" the surprise that they now own him. Just a guess.
 

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I always wondered why MS didn't put out a game based on DKR without the Nintendo characters. Couldn't Rare just put a fresh coat of paint on the engine?

Seems like leaving money on the table.
 
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I always wondered why MS didn't put out a game based on DKR without the Nintendo characters. Couldn't Rare just put a fresh coat of paint on the engine?

Seems like leaving money on the table.
They were going to; The Fast & The Furriest. It at least featured Conker, Banjo, Tiptup, and T.T.

They cancelled it, likely due to the Wiimote like prototype they made for it was canned as well.
 

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I think the Timber rumor is BS simply because the rumor made no mention of DKR2 and said that he would appear in guest roles in upcoming games, which he hasn't. Plus if Nintendo were willing to invest hard in a sequel/reboot, I don't think they'd cheap out on characters unless MS wanted a ludicrous sum.
Sounds fake to me just because it's Timber. I mean look at him:



He's a generic hat-wearing tiger that has been in exactly one game, which he wasn't even the main character of. I doubt Nintendo was chomping at the bit to get this stud back for some cameos. And if he was to cameo in anything it would surely be either Mario Kart or a Donkey Kong game, and since he has appeared in neither of those series' recent entries it's safe to assume that the poster was just engaging in some wishful thinking.
 
DKR2 to be released in 2016, codeveloped by monster and retro. monster is handling the 3ds version while retro takes care of the wii u

it has a longer development cycle than usual because it will be the first 'unified' game (ala Smash Bros) produced by Nintendo of America. it is far and away Nintendo of America's largest project to date. All NoA hands are on deck, including redmond's NST

the article in the OP got a few things right:

- The of success of MKWii was certainly one of the driving factors behind NoJ's renewed interest in DKR2

- it is no coincidence that Retro was involved with the creation of MK7 (since when does EAD work with 2nd party American devs??)

- it is no coincidence that Monster helped Retro with DKCTF

- Tanabe is a key player and is largely responsible for making this all happen

and he got some things wrong, mainly about the politicing between Rare/MS/Nintendo.

some more info

- SPD3 (Kensuke Tanabe's USA wing) and NoA have been granted significantly more funding and freedom going forward regarding game software development

- Amiibo's were critical in reviving NoJs interest in DKR2. internal forecasts show Amiibo's will sell like hotcakes and nintendo is going to make amiibos of nearly every franchise they have ever owned. one major objective of the game is to boost the popularity of lesser known franchises in order to push amiibos

- let me preface this next one. Right now the corporate MO is unification. believe it or not, nintendo has been making serious strides on the backend to become a more modern company and they have nearly finished restructuring their datacenters in both the US and Japan. Unified Accounts, Unified Operating System. Unified Everything. in the same sense nintendo is trying to unify NoJ and NoA by empowering NoA to develop original IPs (thru independent and indie devs) and strengthen existing B team brands from Japan

- at the same time, NoA is trying to unify its core developers in america to match the new model in japan (think smash bros)
Gah. Now I have to wait 2 years?

So... hyped. And I can definitely see that with the Amiibos.
 

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Curious about the Timber thing as well, you'd think Nintendo would grab the entire cast while they're at it. (Assuming this isn't BS)
Sounds fake to me just because it's Timber. I mean look at him:
He's a generic hat-wearing tiger that has been in exactly one game, which he wasn't even the main character of.

One thing to note about Timber...

The plot of Diddy Kong Racing was about Timber the Tiger, not Diddy Kong. In fact, Timber was the main character before Diddy Kong was added to the game. Diddy Kong Racing takes place on Timber's Island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diddy_Kong_Racing

Timber the Tiger's parents go on vacation and leave their son in charge of the island they live on, leaving him and his friends to race for fun. Their enjoyment is derailed when an evil intergalactic pig wizard named Wizpig arrives at peaceful Timber's Island and attempts to take over after he conquered his own planet's racetracks. He turns the four island's guardians: Tricky the Triceratops, Bubbler the Octopus, Bluey the Walrus and Smokey the Dragon into his henchmen. The only solution available to the island's inhabitants is to defeat Wizpig in an elaborate series of races that involves cars, hovercrafts, and airplanes. Drumstick the Rooster, the best racer on the island, failed this challenge and was transformed into a frog by Wizpig's black magic.

Timber recruits a team of eight racers: Diddy Kong, the first recruit; Conker the Squirrel and Banjo the Bear, recruited by Diddy; Krunch the Kremling, Diddy's enemy who follows after him; and Tiptup the Turtle, T.T. the Stopwatch, Pipsy the Mouse, and Bumper the Badger, inhabitants of Timber's island. They eventually complete all of Wizpig's challenges and confront Wizpig himself to a race and defeat him. Shortly afterwards, Drumstick is turned back into a rooster, and Wizpig leaves for his home planet, Future Fun Land. Fearing that Wizpig would again attempt to invade Timber's Island, the islanders travel to Future Fun Land for a second challenge. When Wizpig loses the second race, the rocket he rides on malfunctions and blasts him to the moon, and peace returns to Timber Island for good. However, that peace may be short lived, as it is shown in a small scene that shows Wizpig's spaceship flying through the sky. Wizpig is then heard laughing, indicating that he may return one day. All of his henchmen are free from his control and with the two Triceratops kids on Tricky's side, they all have fun together with Diddy and all his friends.

In an October 2012 interview, Lee Musgrave, who worked on Diddy Kong Racing, said Timber would have been the main character of Pro-AM 64 if Diddy Kong Racing had not been made. Musgrave says, "Yes, there was Pro-Am 64 that had Timber as the main character, but that became Diddy Kong Racing and that was the end of that." When Martin Wakely is asked about a rumored game called "Timber 64", Wakeley responds, "Where the rumour may have started is that an early version of [Diddy Kong Racing], I think it was called RC Pro Am at the time, had Timber as the lead character. I'm sure I've got a badly fitting Nylon polo shirt with the game logo on it somewhere."[3]
 

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One thing to note about Timber...

The plot of Diddy Kong Racing was about Timber the Tiger, not Diddy Kong. In fact, Timber was the main character before Diddy Kong was added to the game. Diddy Kong Racing takes place on Timber's Island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diddy_Kong_Racing
Hmm. While I still don't think Nintendo needs Timber for a sequel, I guess that makes sense. Just have Timber and Diddy recruit a bunch of eShop characters.
 

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This thread reminded me that I've been meaning to pick up Diddy Kong Racing DS. Bought it for approx £8 today, woohoo.
 

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Sounds a bit like a "Chaotix featuring Espio" situation, although Knuckles was already in by that point.



Wait...

Tricky the Triceratops

They don't look the same, but damn it... not the first or last time Rare reused names, either. I wonder which came first, the Dinosaur Planet Tricky, or the Diddy Kong Racing Tricky.
 

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One thing to note about Timber...

The plot of Diddy Kong Racing was about Timber the Tiger, not Diddy Kong. In fact, Timber was the main character before Diddy Kong was added to the game. Diddy Kong Racing takes place on Timber's Island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diddy_Kong_Racing
In the game though he's just another racer. The manual's plot synopsis probably matters for jack squat.

I really hope if this does happen that Nintendo can get the characters. Aside from 3 characters, the cast was a bunch of nobodies but they all fit together aesthetically and made for a memorable cast. Making an e-Shop crew similar to Sonic & All-Stars Racing wouldn't feel like DKR in the slightest.
 

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Making an e-Shop crew similar to Sonic & All-Stars Racing wouldn't feel like DKR in the slightest.
It really depends on who they go for. Characters like Dillon and Rusty fit alongside Diddy fairly well. Mallo really doesn't, but I'd be okay with him. They should really push for animals.