It's hip to dislike Uncharted 4 and Sam is an easy target with him being new. Me? It's easily my favourite Uncharted thanks to the bigger focus on story, lesser focus on combat.
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Rumour: Uncharted 4 DLC to be focused on Sam, standalone, reveal at PSX
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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It's hip to dislike Uncharted 4 and Sam is an easy target with him being new. Me? It's easily my favourite Uncharted thanks to the bigger focus on story, lesser focus on combat.
wild wild rice
Member
Sam just seemed dull as a character. So was whoever that new enemy guy was. So was the African woman. None of them won me over the way Chloe, Cutter, or Marlowe did (the other post-Nate, Sully, Elena characters.) To be fair, it could be because they never had the chance to shine in such a dull game.
So that's why a Sam DLC doesn't excite me.
So that's why a Sam DLC doesn't excite me.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Druckmann has my faith, Left Behind was amazing.
brandonh83
Banned
For me the story pacing was definitely below the amazing gameplay sections, Madagascar was incredible and the second half had better game design but the exposition and amount of padding in the first half and even in the second half dragged it down.
I liked the story itself, but I can name more than one chapter that could have been greatly pared down or even cut completely. But when it's actually moving and trying to be a videogame, it's absolutely top of the class stuff. ND really needs to figure out how to balance these things out as pacing is absolutely tantamount to this style of thing.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Sam was the least interesting part of U4. Bummer
CMojicaAce
Member
The adventures of Sam, Sully, and Chloe please.
TheKastorian
Member
Sam is freakin awesome. I hope they pull a "available NOW on the PS Store".
brandonh83
Banned
His actions ended up doing something beautiful for Nathan and Elena.
Good, I can save my money.
As for the people asking why people dislike Sam, the whole story trends in one direction emotionally and morally and then Sam doesn't get dealt with in a way that reflects said direction. There is one specific moment near the end of the game where Sam makes a decision that should be pretty final regarding how his story arc plays out. Instead we get cop-outs.
Sam is selfish, secretive, jealous and annoying, and if that wasn't enough he's an ugly fucker too. (Assuming it's okay to say that about fictional characters.) And considering the story was more Sam's than Drake's, all of this was a massive problem.
He was terrible, and he dragged Drake down.
Sully is incredible, but some things are surely beyond even him.
As for the people asking why people dislike Sam, the whole story trends in one direction emotionally and morally and then Sam doesn't get dealt with in a way that reflects said direction. There is one specific moment near the end of the game where Sam makes a decision that should be pretty final regarding how his story arc plays out. Instead we get cop-outs.
Sam is selfish, secretive, jealous and annoying, and if that wasn't enough he's an ugly fucker too. (Assuming it's okay to say that about fictional characters.) And considering the story was more Sam's than Drake's, all of this was a massive problem.
He was terrible, and he dragged Drake down.
Sully is incredible, but some things are surely beyond even him.
Filthy Casual
Member
Cool.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
Garbage character.Should've focused on Nadine.Do something unexpected for once.
But they better explain why Sam and Rafe's nonsensical animosity exists in the first place.
That was a huge plot hole in the main game.Why is Rafe ready to go the ends of the earth to kill that guy ? Why was Sam motivated to turn his back on a long time friend who let him out of Jail ?
Rafe actually remembered & cared about Sam when Nathan didn't give a fuck about him.Nothing in the flash back leads you to believe Rafe,Nate & Sam had any problem working together as a trio either.
What a mess of a plot UC4 was.
But they better explain why Sam and Rafe's nonsensical animosity exists in the first place.
That was a huge plot hole in the main game.Why is Rafe ready to go the ends of the earth to kill that guy ? Why was Sam motivated to turn his back on a long time friend who let him out of Jail ?
Rafe actually remembered & cared about Sam when Nathan didn't give a fuck about him.Nothing in the flash back leads you to believe Rafe,Nate & Sam had any problem working together as a trio either.
What a mess of a plot UC4 was.
Winters_Solace
Member
Expected and not disappointed if true. Chloe needs to join up though. iirc in her letter it said shes still working. No reason for Sully not to bring her in if so.
D1renegade
Member
No Chloe no care
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Fuck Sam. Where the co op at? Fall is almost over.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Lol
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
You should take a look at first page of NeoGAF.
Edited: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1318332
wild wild rice
Member
On second thought, keep Chloe out of this. I want to remember her the way she was in 2 and 3. Bad enough they drained the life from the rest of the cast.
Coming mid-december, there's a thread today with the co-op reveal trailer.
SpartanN92
Banned
That's definitely why I think that 4 might even top 2 for me.
U4 is incredible and I can't wait for more Sam/Sully
SmoothRunningGun
Member
He's a crappy, annoying, unlikeable character and there are so many better characters they could have chosen for this dlc.
This..
DieAntwoord
Banned
I hated Sam so much i quit after chapter 19. No way you're getting me on board.
I like the part where he lied to Nathan and almost single handedly destroy their(nate and Elena) relationship.
brandonh83
Banned
I didn't get that from him beyond the surface level.
Yeah there's more to it than that, quite a bit actually!
flaxknuckles
Member
Yep. I lost a ton of my hype for Uncharted 4 once spoilers leaked out and I learned she wasn't there. I almost bought a ps4 and shit
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Sam was a weak character, and Uncharter 4 was a bit of a disappointment. I'll wait for this to be really cheap.
Pound_lb003
Member
Ugh, Sam? Pretty much the only way to dissolve my interest. Sully and Chloe, and I'd be on board.
EDIT:
Actually Chloe and anyone and I'd be on board. Easily the best Uncharted character.
EDIT:
Actually Chloe and anyone and I'd be on board. Easily the best Uncharted character.
pixelation
Member
I can't see Sam carrying the franchise succesfully if i'm being honest.
Unknown?
Member
Uh it explains in the beginning that Nathan did all he could to find him. Nate didn't give a fuck? I think you're taking liberties of rewriting the story. Obviously Rafe would have more resources to get information than Nathan.
Garrett Hawke
Member
Sam is awful and I don't understand the defense squad. He repeatedly puts his brothers life in danger and his brothers relationship over his selfishness and he never really gets punished for that.
I know the Uncharted series doesn't ever really show karma for the leads but it's especially bad with Sam.
Completely unlikeable and uninteresting and a dumb retcon to boot.
I know the Uncharted series doesn't ever really show karma for the leads but it's especially bad with Sam.
Completely unlikeable and uninteresting and a dumb retcon to boot.
brandonh83
Banned
Yeah he has character flaws. He almost feels three dimensional. The horror.
Fancy Clown
Member
Haha what...are you sure you played the game?
Rafe wanted to kill Sam because Sam dicked him over and was competing to find the treasure that Rafe was basically building his reputation on. Sam betrayed Rafe because he wanted to find the treasure with his little brother, not a psychopath who got him shot up and stuck in prison. Rafe didn't care about Sam, he just wanted his help to get the treasure. Nate cared about Sam but he thought he was dead.
You think they worked well as a trio? Did you miss the part where Nate thought Rafe was a prick, and Rafe then psycho murdererd a dude which led to Sam "dying".
There was no plot hole there.
Not according to the mounds of teen girl UC4 fans on tumblr. To them, he is the only part of that game.
shinobi602
Member
This is incorrect from what I'm told. (That it's Sam focused).
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Interesting. Care to share more?
Talk newman
brandonh83
Banned
Your street cred's on the line Nedry.
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