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Seattle City Council bars evictions from December 1st - March 1st (even from private property owners)

DynamiteCop!

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The Seattle City Council on Monday unanimously approved legislation meant to halt residential evictions during the coldest, wettest months of the year, despite Mayor Jenny Durkan warning against the move.

Councilmember Kshama Sawant’s legislation prohibits evictions from being carried out between Dec. 1 and March 1
Have a shitty renter? Well you can't evict them, have a renter who stops paying rent on December 1st? Well you can't evict them for 3 months.

The absolute lunacy of the politicians in this city and to be frank most left leaning politicians in general is astonishing. All rental properties will either be sold or turned into condos and individually sold.

I'm not sure what they were trying to accomplish here but it's not going to pan out. Seattle might become the first renter free city in the world.

 

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I own a rental property. A couple years back we had some scummy tenants who decided they would only pay rent when they felt like it. Our state laws required us to issue two formal breach notices, each with one week response time, followed by an application to evict with a 14 day response time. A minimum of 4 weeks until we can kick out someone who is effectively stealing from us. Potentially longer if they decide to take it to tribunal (thankfully they didn’t). It was an absolute nightmare to deal with and wasted a lot of my time that could’ve been spent earning $$ instead of trying to recover $$ owed to me (technically, prevent further theft).

I can only imagine the pain if it were 3 months instead of 1. I probably wouldn’t even want to take the risk of owning a property. What happens then? Property investment goes down, demand/supply ratio goes up, rental prices go up, renters cry foul, government enforces rent control, property investment goes down even further. That’s how you fuck up a housing market.

What’s wrong with these clowns? How did they weasel their way into these positions of power?
 

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The Seattle City Council voted Monday to halt residential evictions during the coldest, wettest months of the year.

Before voting 7-0, the council trimmed the period covered by council member Kshama Sawant’s legislation from five months to three, limited the rule to low- and moderate-income tenants and exempted landlords with four or fewer housing units, The Seattle Times reported.

Mayor Jenny Durkan warned the council against enacting the legislation. Durkan spokesman Ernesto Apreza said before the vote that a legal fight is almost certain and could be costly to taxpayers.
It's Dec through Feb, exempts owner occupied housing, and owners with 4 or less properties. So basically the small guys are exempted.

There will be unintended consequences like 3 month deposits and stricter screenings. This isn't the way to do it.
 
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Sounds like a great way to accelerate the Democrat "needles on the street" utopia: jack up rent fees, jack up the deposit fees, jack up whatever cost-recovery fees that can be tacked on, ride your tenants like a true slumlord, more single-family homes in the middle of neighborhoods get converted over to duplexes and multi-level living arrangements, single families leave those neighborhoods as petty crimes go up, property value goes down, all while the cost of renting goes up.

I mean, it fixes the problem. The poorest people wouldn't be able to afford to live there and the crappiest buildings won't be able to attract wealthy-enough residents to live there either, so they go out of business!
 

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This is the same state that has a Trans stripper strip during a homeless solutions conference so this is really tame in comparison. I would say they are going in the right direction back toward normal with this.
 

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I strongly encourage people that typically follow the rules, and are good citizens to stop paying rent there. Don't let the people, this bill is intended for be only ones taking advantage.
 
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I own a rental property. A couple years back we had some scummy tenants who decided they would only pay rent when they felt like it. Our state laws required us to issue two formal breach notices, each with one week response time, followed by an application to evict with a 14 day response time. A minimum of 4 weeks until we can kick out someone who is effectively stealing from us. Potentially longer if they decide to take it to tribunal (thankfully they didn’t). It was an absolute nightmare to deal with and wasted a lot of my time that could’ve been spent earning $$ instead of trying to recover $$ owed to me (technically, prevent further theft).

I can only imagine the pain if it were 3 months instead of 1. I probably wouldn’t even want to take the risk of owning a property. What happens then? Property investment goes down, demand/supply ratio goes up, rental prices go up, renters cry foul, government enforces rent control, property investment goes down even further. That’s how you fuck up a housing market.

What’s wrong with these clowns? How did they weasel their way into these positions of power?
Too complicated of a thought.

The socialists need simple sounding arguments about 'fairness' and being nice to people.

Economics are 100% irrelevant my friend.
 
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zeorhymer

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Heh. SF has had that problem for years. The unspoken rule of thumb is, if you're going own property in SF, don't rent it out. That's what it's been happening for years and since no one is renting out, the supply is shrinking. Even big apartment complexes are trying to sell their buildings because of the headache of red tape that SF imposed on everyone.
 

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This happened in Virginia


Owning a home is racist, renting a home is racist. NK/USSR had it right, everyone in some small grey box apartment from 1950! All paid for by the Party. The Party is life, the Party is love.
 

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I own a rental property. A couple years back we had some scummy tenants who decided they would only pay rent when they felt like it. Our state laws required us to issue two formal breach notices, each with one week response time, followed by an application to evict with a 14 day response time. A minimum of 4 weeks until we can kick out someone who is effectively stealing from us. Potentially longer if they decide to take it to tribunal (thankfully they didn’t). It was an absolute nightmare to deal with and wasted a lot of my time that could’ve been spent earning $$ instead of trying to recover $$ owed to me (technically, prevent further theft).

I can only imagine the pain if it were 3 months instead of 1. I probably wouldn’t even want to take the risk of owning a property. What happens then? Property investment goes down, demand/supply ratio goes up, rental prices go up, renters cry foul, government enforces rent control, property investment goes down even further. That’s how you fuck up a housing market.

What’s wrong with these clowns? How did they weasel their way into these positions of power?
Oh jeez. That must have absolutely sucked for you. You've my sympathies.
 
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DeepEnigma

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This would absolutely not hold up in court, period. You cannot just create laws involving private property that superceded known property rights.

No way in hell, and it will end up in federal court.
They have them already in other cold climate states, and they are still standing.
 

cryptoadam

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Property owners are just going to raise the application process. Credit checks, income, tenure, background checks, etc..

Congrats Seattle, you just gentrified lower income places with stricter tenant screenings.
hmmm.

In a few years time Seattle will be crying systematic racism because now its harder for low income people to rent.

Create the problem and then blame it on racism.

<insert black guy point to head meme here>
 

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What’s wrong with these clowns? How did they weasel their way into these positions of power?
Democracy.

Imagine being a loser who doesn't want to work or pay for things. Are you going to vote for the guy who tells you to go to work, or tells you you should get everything for free? Of course you don't understand. You are the privileged property owner. I can't make ends meet because Trump and other white guys with a lot of money. You deserve to not be paid.
 
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It’s as if the law makers really want to push the meme Get Woke Get Broke upon their constituents while they make their 6 digit bankroll and kickbacks while they watch the world burn.