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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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It's a fruitful month for uncovering archived dev material it seems.
https://gamehistory.org/aladdin-source-code/
https://gamehistory.org/aladdin-source-code/
sixteen-bit
Member
Damn, thats some awesome in depth work there. Got about halfway through, well worth a read, especially if you like Segas Aladdin more than the SNES game.
Its totally better. Sorry Capcom.
davidwhangchoi
Member
i have Genny aladdin. need to read this after the yankee game
MrCunningham
Member
Jon Burton shows how he exploited a bug in the Genesis/ Mega Drive hardware to increase the colour pallete to 256...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8qgArSqMsc
He even claims that this trick can be used to get the system to display 512 colours onscreen. It's very hack-y, but cool. No wonder why he didn't use it in a retail game. Also he can simulate up to 4096 colours by using his scanline displacement trick seen in his Sonic 3D Blast video.
This is interesting... I wonder if it is still in the retail ROM, or if it is a special developer build ROM?
This is definitely interesting too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8qgArSqMsc
He even claims that this trick can be used to get the system to display 512 colours onscreen. It's very hack-y, but cool. No wonder why he didn't use it in a retail game. Also he can simulate up to 4096 colours by using his scanline displacement trick seen in his Sonic 3D Blast video.
This is interesting... I wonder if it is still in the retail ROM, or if it is a special developer build ROM?
This is definitely interesting too.
MrCunningham
Member
Sorry about the double posts... but Jon Burton announced that he is making a directors cut version of Sonic 3D Blast for the Genesis/ Mega Drive...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_aal1U7bGQ
Basically it is going to be a patch that he is doing in his own time. He's going to update the controls, fixing some of the fidgety collision, Super Sonic inclusion, the level editor he showed in a previous video will be added back, as well as a save option and a few additional enemies that were in the prototype game.
Jon will be releasing this as a separate patch. Pretty awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_aal1U7bGQ
Basically it is going to be a patch that he is doing in his own time. He's going to update the controls, fixing some of the fidgety collision, Super Sonic inclusion, the level editor he showed in a previous video will be added back, as well as a save option and a few additional enemies that were in the prototype game.
Jon will be releasing this as a separate patch. Pretty awesome!
sixteen-bit
Member
That's so cool!
So recently I made the decision to downsize my game collection. I have been selling off common titles for the other platforms as well as duplicates and unwanted stuff, Wii U games I never got around to or have already been ported and other random items all to fund my Genesis collection and a few other oddball items I've been eyeing. I put together a pretty decent chunk of change over the last few weeks and went on a shopping spree. And oh god was it worth it.
Several of my personal grails in here, I should have done this ages ago. All I lost was stuff I didn't ever play anyway. (Sorry for the quick and dirty photos, on mobile.)
Several of my personal grails in here, I should have done this ages ago. All I lost was stuff I didn't ever play anyway. (Sorry for the quick and dirty photos, on mobile.)
sixteen-bit
Member
Armoured Priest
Member
Oh, man...
Shadowrun was way ahead of its time.
Shadowrun was way ahead of its time.
blast processed
Member
So recently I made the decision to downsize my game collection. I have been selling off common titles for the other platforms as well as duplicates and unwanted stuff, Wii U games I never got around to or have already been ported and other random items all to fund my Genesis collection and a few other oddball items I've been eyeing. I put together a pretty decent chunk of change over the last few weeks and went on a shopping spree. And oh god was it worth it.
Several of my personal grails in here, I should have done this ages ago. All I lost was stuff I didn't ever play anyway. (Sorry for the quick and dirty photos, on mobile.)
MUSHA, Trouble Shooter, Grindstormer???
Flizzzipper
Member
Hell of a shopping spree! How's Raiden Project?
davidwhangchoi
Member
Raiden project is near perfect. i play it all the time. it has a TATE mode but you need a gameshark to access the tate controls in there. (u.s. version blocked it i guess for liability)
IrishNinja
Member
jesus...doubt that haul will be topped before the new thread!
KormaChameleon
Member
Purchased a flash cart, Thinking do I sell some of my games to reduce my collection or keep on hold of them just so they look fancy on display in my man cave... Hard choices.
Laevateinn
Member
Well, if you do decide to sell, there's plenty of people here who would be interested in a first shot at whatever gems you have. Although, none of us would play a ROM of a game we weren't legally entitled to...
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
So I literally had a dream the other night where they announced Shining Force IV, and it was done in 2D like the classics, but with more advanced and detailed pixel art (kinda like the faux-retro style of Project Octopath but without the weird DoF effects) and it looked so beautiful and amazing, and
then I woke up 
Laevateinn
Member
IrishNinja
Member
loved this since I've seen it
wish I hadn't lent out the mini guide to part 1 I had from game players years ago, ugh
ChamplooJones
Formerly Momotaro
Now I'm curious. What was the turning point for the Shining games? I'm only asking because I don't know enough about the series.
socksfelloff
Member
The turning point was shining force 3 when SEGA fucked them, they said fuck this and went on to make games for Nintendo instead.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Cuphead got me to finally play through Gunstar Heroes
am I crazy or is that game a little on the easy side
am I crazy or is that game a little on the easy side
Laevateinn
Member
Shining was a Sonic Software Planning (now Camelot) series. The series died after the release of the Shining Force 3 Premium disc because, as socksfelloff said, Sega fucked them over with how the transition between the Saturn and Dreamcast was handled. Camelot broke up with Sega, made Mario sports titles and Golden Sun instead. Golden Sun was amazing but the third title under performed and now who knows what is going on with them.
Camelot no longer making RPGs is one of the biggest losses we've had in the transition to modern gaming.
It is easy with the right weapon combo yeah.
Edit: And i dont know, I thought Golden Sun was pretty mediocre myself, despite the awesome graphics it admittedly had.
Laevateinn
Member
It's not quite Shining level but the Golden Sun titles are all great. The sprite work and puzzle mechanics were especially good.
While I most want to see an ending to the Julian/Galm storyline, I'd welcome any RPG from them especially if it had beautiful 2D artwork.
I agree with the sprite work - that is phenomenal without question. I also liked the puzzle mechanics, but i found the games to be 1) waay to slow with just tons of useless text, 2) too easy. I dont think i dies once during my playthrough of either of the first two games, and 3) the djinn-system was cool but flawed considering it essentially was best to just stack the same colored ones.
Shining is one a whole other level imo.
sixteen-bit
Member
Gunstar Heroes is easy, but you can ramp the difficulty up and use the lightsaber (Fire+Laser) to keep it interesting.
Laevateinn
Member
I hate the dice part in Gunstar Heroes. Its why I never bother replaying it.
Genesis Knight
Member
Maybe my favorite part. I guess it's always been the most divisive aspect of GH.
eXistor
Member
I like it, but it could do with a re-edit. It's just a bit too harsh and potentially time-consuming. I love the concept of it though.
Saoshyant
Member
Is this actually documented anywhere or is one of those "facts" that get repeated so often they become true by social osmosis? I say this because I've heard this story before but never seen any source for it to the point I'm starting to think it may have been made up?
Don't anyone here take this wrong, but this sort of thing is usually reported somewhere. Like, someone put this sentence on Wikipedia's page for Camelot:
Which seems pretty damning at first, but then you click on that reference link (points to Giant Bomb) and there's nothing of the sort on that page. Nor has there ever been as I just checked with the Way Back Machine for older versions.
Camelot was an internal Sega studio that was allowed to break up from the parent company in 1995 to go independent, way before the Dreamcast was even a thing, and they did it so they could get a project with Sony (Beyond the Beyond), which I imagine was lucrative enough to justify this course of action.
I assume the fact they didn't do anything for the Dreamcast in the short span that the system existed made people theorize things but, from my point of view, it just appears Camelot saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship earlier on for someone who welcomed them (Nintendo) instead of staying around and dealing with the sinking ship that was Sega of Japan in the late 90's, no specific "fuckery" needed.
Saoshyant
Member
What? Where did you get that impression? Even if someone were to say it's not the best game in the series (and they would be wrong!), they would still not be able to deny it's an awesome game.
Laevateinn
Member
Ill fight anyone who doesnt like Shining Force 3.
Laevateinn
Member
Turning point as in after Shining Force 3 came out Sega turned into an ecchi series.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Fucked over as in, we have to rely on fan translations for part 2 and 3, and ---
This still hurts so very very much.
--- this.
This still hurts so very very much.
Laevateinn
Member
yesyesyes
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Dude yes
SF2 improves on almost everything from SF1, the only thing I like better in SF1 is the art style (but it's still good in SF2 and the spritework is glorious).
Laevateinn
Member
Shining Force 2 drags on a bit when you get to North Parmecia and has too many battles and characters. Otherwise it's an improvement over the first game. SF3 is perfect though.
Shadow Hog
Member
Well, no, it's not perfect - to be that, the remaining two thirds of it would have to be officially translated!
davidwhangchoi
Member
i need shining forces =)