Candescence
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Okay, that's good news. Not sure what the final power level will be, but if it's anywhere close to the Xbone while still being affordable, I'll consider that good enough.
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SemiAccurate: Nintendo NX handheld to use Nvidia Tegra-based Soc
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Okay, that's good news. Not sure what the final power level will be, but if it's anywhere close to the Xbone while still being affordable, I'll consider that good enough.
Calm Mind
Member
Oh snap!
Askherserenity
Member
Damn...who to believe.
Goddamn. It'll be at least twice as powerful as the Wii U.
Considering almost every phone chip is better than the Wii U's cpu, it's going to be a next-planet leap from the 3ds to this console.
This is pretty noteworthy. Is it a solid source?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Agreed, I hate that
I trust my contact. They were very direct and confident about it.
So Zelda's next fall?
Eolz
Member
I'll post this again: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52119/nintendo-nx-powered-nvidia-tegra-processor-amd-chip/index.html
Also, good guess by Leadbetter.
3DS: 6.8 gflops
TX1: 512 gflops
TX2: we don't know yet but it will be a huge improvement in terms of efficiency, which means we can get better performances for the same power draw.
Tweaktown and the brazilian dude on the money.
Also, good guess by Leadbetter.
3DS: 6.8 gflops
TX1: 512 gflops
TX2: we don't know yet but it will be a huge improvement in terms of efficiency, which means we can get better performances for the same power draw.
Candescence
Member
Just wondering, for quick reference since we're talking leaps and bounds from the 3DS, what's the respective horsepowers of the 3DS GPU, Vita GPU, Tegra X1 and what we know of the Tegra X2?
This thing just got a lot more interesting.
Thanks! This definitely shifts the conversation.
Vanillalite
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We need this to be Bish verified and then have a new thread as this is big news.
Obliterator
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If this is legit this is hella freaking exciting as it means there should be a solid power jump over the X1
DrROBschiz
Member
Jesus... ANyone going from 3DS to even an X1 based portable is going to FEEL it
Dark Cloud
Member
Imagine playing a 3DS only this whole gen, then going to the NX lol.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Of the PS4 and XBO? No. Not a single person believed that
I mean that was pretty much me. But I have a PC too :lol
Candescence
Member
Bloody hell, the 3DS to Tegra X1 jump is basically a 75.2 times increase in power. Shame the X2's performance (or whatever GPU the NX is gonna have) is probably not gonna be even twice the X1 (which would get it up to roughly Xbone level), but the massive leap from the 3DS is insane.
Ok, things are becoming interesting now.
DrROBschiz
Member
Monster Hunter fans will be happy at least, that's for sure
DING DING DING
Huge news for the Hunting Crew
Rest in shit 3DS. Cant wait to stop seeing mud on my screen
Dark Cloud
Member
Yeah, nobody even thought that lol
Whiskeymatt
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LegendofLex
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I'm starting to look at it this way:
With Apple, the tablet idea actually came first, and the iPhone idea came later. We all know the iPhone was the product that actually came to market first, though, because it was the device that Apple decided was strategically more important.
But just because they decided the iPhone was the strategically necessary device didn't stop them from eventually making the iPad once the use cases started to emerge from what they observed from the iPhone business.
Everything seems to be coming together. It seems there was some kind of leak (perhaps from Nvidia) in May - that's when SemiAccurate, Tweaktown and the Brazillian forum user all leaked stuff that in hindsight seems 100% on the money.
Then two months later (as predicted by the Brazillian) Eurogamer, Wall Street Journal and the rest all say stuff that appears to corroborate those reports, after a leak that is probably due to the dev kits finally being sent out.
Now NateDrake says it's pascal, which was the May report from tweaktown
It would be very strange if all of this is incorrect now, it's adding up too well.
Which means I'm delighted that we'll have an advanced chip in this thing.
Then two months later (as predicted by the Brazillian) Eurogamer, Wall Street Journal and the rest all say stuff that appears to corroborate those reports, after a leak that is probably due to the dev kits finally being sent out.
Now NateDrake says it's pascal, which was the May report from tweaktown
It would be very strange if all of this is incorrect now, it's adding up too well.
Which means I'm delighted that we'll have an advanced chip in this thing.
The Hermit
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Ok
I am officially hyped
I am officially hyped
Even if they keep the GFLOPS the same as the x1, being pascal and in 16nm means a lot better power consuption. For reference, the 980ti and the 1070, with around the same power in games:
980ti: 5.63 TFLOPS, 250W
1070: 6.5 TFLOPS, 170W
Schnozberry
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It certainly won't be a reference design, but I wouldn't assume it will be cut down, just different. I'm guessing it won't feature any Denver cores (barring some SDK Magic) and will have some ESRAM. Nintendo would present Nvidia with their largest Tegra opportunity ever. Plus Nintendo's lead on SOC design was a high level engineer at Nvidia previously. There's good reason for hope here.
GhostTrick
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GhostTrick
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MatrixMan.EXE
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This thing is going to have obscenely bad battery life, isn't it?
Phew, that sounds much better.
More and more the Brazilian info is seemingly accurate. Still doubtful but growing less so...
Forbsome fun: But then he noted that MS and Sony may be copying it to some degree if the modularity is true. I wonder if that's going to pan out in the Neo and Scorpio. Or are they truly too late.
... or we get a sixaxis knock off.
Forbsome fun: But then he noted that MS and Sony may be copying it to some degree if the modularity is true. I wonder if that's going to pan out in the Neo and Scorpio. Or are they truly too late.
... or we get a sixaxis knock off.
MatrixMan.EXE
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More and more the Brazilian info is seemingly accurate. Still doubtful but growing less so...
Forbsome fun: But then he noted that MS and Sony may be copying it to some degree if the modularity is true. I wonder if that's going to pan out in the Neo and Scorpio. Or are they truly too late.
... or we get a sixaxis knock off.
How are they copying it if it's not out or even revealed?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Is that source credible???
Wait, my bad, is that NateDrake's site???
Fourth Storm
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With a modest screen and clocks, it could actually turn out to be quite good.
That is me.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Comparing pipelines of considerable fixed-function functionality (like the pixel shaders in PICA200) to fully-programmable fully-unified shader pipelines (like the TK1+) is never trivial. If FLOPS cannot really tell the picture across similar-generation shader pipelines, just imagine how much more difficult it is to tell what computations in a fixed pipeline take what "FLOPS" in equivalence.
Indeed. Nintendo have no reason to stick with A57.
The fact that it's Pascal-based seems to ensure that efficiency is a prime consideration.
I'm no expert though.
Wishmaster92
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Best news so far out of everything. Does this mean it could play current third party games without much effort?
The Brazilian dude noted that MS knew of the NX plan and would potentially incorporate it going forward. Sony would do similat, in theory, if they knew.
Sixaxis was a reference becaused it was cobbled together to tick the balk of the box.
But I am joking.