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05./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) {2018.02.01}


 
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Nintendo with the Switch are appealing to a much wider demographic, and yes they are family too, but if you look at the marketing for the Switch you can see it aimed at everybody, not just kids. In the past Nintendo focused on children as it was the main market, but since the launch of the original Playstation and Xbox that has not been the case for a while now.
It Is still mainly for young people and if you don't see it ...it's okay ) but you will never EVER see a game such teh last of us or something produced by nintendo...never accept it
 

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It Is still mainly for young people and if you don't see it ...it's okay ) but you will never EVER see a game such teh last of us or something produced by nintendo...never accept it
What do you count as young people? In Nintendo's own survey in 2017, 83% of the people with the strongest desire to purchase a Switch were over 18 and 63% of them were over 24. In the NPD's latest survey 70% of Switch owners are 18 or over while nearly 40% are 30 or over.

I agree with you that Nintendo's bread and butter are games aimed at all ages and they are unlikely to develop games specifically targeted at people 18 over. For that they rely on third parties mostly but they do publish some 18+ rated games themselves too.
 

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Sony is for young people and if you don't see it ...it's okay ) but you will never EVER see such post apocalyptic games like Splatoon or something even approaching it's scale produced by Sony...never accept it

do you know how brutally it started.. it was TOFU! BLOODY TOFU
 
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What do you count as young people? In Nintendo's own survey in 2017, 83% of the people with the strongest desire to purchase a Switch were over 18 and 63% of them were over 24. In the NPD's latest survey 70% of Switch owners are 18 or over while nearly 40% are 30 or over.

I agree with you that Nintendo's bread and butter are games aimed at all ages and they are unlikely to develop games specifically targeted at people 18 over. For that they rely on third parties mostly but they do publish some 18+ rated games themselves too.
Whenever somebody goes for that, they mean stereotypes.

We all know children love to play M-rated games, and vice versa.
 

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Kids nowadays play Fortnite, GTA, Fifa, Cod, Madden, NBA2K, and etc.
 

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It Is still mainly for young people and if you don't see it ...it's okay ) but you will never EVER see a game such teh last of us or something produced by nintendo...never accept it

Well you are wrong on the age thing but I am not blaming you for that, many look to the past where Nintendo was a company aimed at kids but this is simply not the case anymore, all Switch advertising has been aimed at a much wider audience, and when kids are shown it's a s a family unit, which is another massive avenue for Nintendo.

Also you say Nintendo will never make a game like the last of us, as it this is somehow a bad thing, I think two consoles with movie like games is more than enough, don't you?.
 
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What do you count as young people? In Nintendo's own survey in 2017, 83% of the people with the strongest desire to purchase a Switch were over 18 and 63% of them were over 24. In the NPD's latest survey 70% of Switch owners are 18 or over while nearly 40% are 30 or over.

I agree with you that Nintendo's bread and butter are games aimed at all ages and they are unlikely to develop games specifically targeted at people 18 over. For that they rely on third parties mostly but they do publish some 18+ rated games themselves too.

You are totally correct, and it's a common misconception that's aimed constantly at Nintendo, mainly on gaming sites by core hobby gamers who don't like the fact games with cute graphics like Animal crossing new horizons, out sell triple AAA movie games like the last of us by massive amounts.

They just can't get their heads around the fact something they do not like personally, and is not technically advanced in the graphics department to their own standards would still appeal to millions of people. So rather than just accept it for what it is, and just think there is a wider audience outside of their own personal tastes, they put it down to "It must be kids buying these games", as they have little to no standards...sad really. ;)
 
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You are totally correct, and it's a common misconception that's aimed constantly at Nintendo, mainly on gaming sites by core hobby gamers who don't like the fact games with cute graphics like Animal crossing new horizons, out sell triple AAA movie games like the last of us by massive amounts.

They just can't get their heads around the fact something they do not like personally, and is not technically advanced in the graphics department to their own standards would still appeal to millions of people. So rather than just accept it for what it is, and just think there is a wider audience outside of their own personal tastes, they put it down to "It must be kids buying these games", as they have little to no standards...sad really. ;)
Yeah it's odd. At this stage in its lifecycle any successful console would have a wide variety of ages in its audience. Saying a console is "mainly for kid"is like saying a console is "mainly for people bin people in their 30s".
 

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It's very awesome to see a new game with refreshing formula is selling really well in Japan while video games that relied heavily on graphics struggling to sell more than 30K physical copies.
 

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Switch, Famitsu

Week 49, 2017
193.717
Week 49, 2018
278.313

Week 49, 2019
188.501
Week 49, 2020
204.622

Weeks 49: 865.153

Week 50, 2017
230.259
Week 50, 2018
285.513

Week 50, 2019
236.625
Week 50, 2020
229.698

Weeks 50: 982.095

Week 51, 2017
303.504

Week 51, 2018
300.661
Week 51, 2019
291.485
Week 51, 2020
263.304

Weeks 51: 1.158.954

Week 52, 2017
115.255
Week 52, 2018
186.806
Week 52, 2019
234.268
Week 52, 2020
278.173

Weeks 52: 814.502


Week 1, 2018
159.636
Week 1, 2019
225.698
Week 1, 2020
284.827
Week 1, 2021
312.121


Weeks 1: 982.282



Week 49 to 1, 2017: 1.002.371
Week 49 to 1, 2018: 1.276.991
Week 49 to 1, 2019: 1.235.706
Week 49 to 1, 2020: 1.287.918
 
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Whatever data you show will never hinder the fact that Japan is a small market for Sony. While Japan is a big market for Nintendo. I mean all the data you are showing me includes Japan numbers. SMH.

Launch aligned, let's remove the sales from Japan for both? Tell me honestly which Console manufacturer will lose a lot of sales? Is it Playstation or NSW?
Also, I never said that Switch is not successful outside Japan. Take a look at my reply to Woopah.

I will say it again Sony doesn't need Japan as Nintendo needs Japan. My post is not even all about Nintendo for crying out loud.

And if you think that Japan is not a key ingredients for Switch success then LOL.
I think there is a misunderstanding between us.
I know, as you do, what are the the consoles (PS4, NSW) sales split between regions.
My issue with what you said (first post of yours I've quoted) is the the expression "Sony doesn't needs THIS, Nintendo needs THAT" for describing PlayStation difficulties in the japanese market and the contemporary Nintendo's strength in the same market.
I just proceeded to explained why (Switch is a success at a worldwide level).

The key ingredients behind the Switch success are defined by the concept of the console and the software it has (with Nintendo's games being the key driver of the platform adoption as usual).
The formula is being warmly received everywhere because everybody regardless of culture, sex and age can instantly appreciate how Switch helps to play console games by adapting to each peculiar lifestyle.

What does launch aligned have to do with what I have said?
At the moment Switch is, launch aligned, ahead of PS4 which means there might be a chance that it will end up over PS4 LTD once the console conclude its life cycle.
In that case it is likely that the NSW hardware sales outside Japan will be in the same ballpark of the PS4 sales outside Japan.

The reason why I have to use conditionals is that we are comparing two console at a totally different point of their life cycle (with one being at the end whereas the other is roughly in the middle).
 
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I think there is a misunderstanding between us.
I know, as you do, what are the the consoles (PS4, NSW) sales split between regions.
My issue with what you said (first post of yours I've quoted) is the the expression "Sony doesn't needs THIS, Nintendo needs THAT" for describing PlayStation difficulties in the japanese market and the contemporary Nintendo's strength in the same market.
I just proceeded to explained why (Switch is a success at a worldwide level).

The key ingredients behind the Switch success are defined by the concept of the console and the software it has (with Nintendo's games being the key driver of the platform adoption as usual).
The formula is being warmly received everywhere because everybody regardless of culture, sex and age can instantly appreciate how Switch helps to play console games by adapting to each peculiar lifestyle.


At the moment Switch is, launch aligned, ahead of PS4 which means there might be a chance that it will end up over PS4 LTD once the console conclude its life cycle.
In that case it is likely that the NSW hardware sales outside Japan will be in the same ballpark of the PS4 sales outside Japan.

The reason why I have to use conditionals is that we are comparing two console at a totally different point of their life cycle (with one being at the end whereas the other is roughly in the middle).
All of your post is irrelevant to what I have said. You are focusing on the words not on the context. Once again I never said that Switch is not successful outside Japan.
So what if Switch Sell 1Billion,1 trillion sales. Japan numbers made it possible. I am talking about markets/region breakdown here. I am talking about sales data here. Why do you think I even bother posting numbers?

You also provided the sales breakdown. If you removed the sales from Japan, Switch will lose a large percentage of it's sales while if you removed it from PS4, It's only a small percentage. Which actually prove my point more.
Then to further explain if we removed NA numbers for both then both won't be successful because they will lose a lot of sales. Just like Playstation need the EU and ROTW market more than Nintendo. Just like Sony can afford to not prioritize Japan with Console shipments but you cannot say that for Nintendo. Nintendo will prioritize Japan more than Europe if they needed to choose.

All markets are important but there will be a certain market where both Console manufacturer will focus because they know they need that market.

Let me ask you this if we removed the Japanese numbers, do you think it will sell faster than PS4? If ever Switch outsold PS4 then what market do you think will be used as a barometer?

Do I need to explain my self more? Just tell me so I can explain it further.
 

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E Eanox we'll have a clearer picture when Nintendo's next numbers come in, but yes Switch is selling faster than PS4 even if we remove the Japanese numbers. Therefore it doesn't make sense to me to say Sony doesn't need Japan but Nintendo does, when outside Japan Switch still sells faster. Neither platform will need Japan to hit 90+ million sold.

But perhaps we are just using different words but meaning the same thing. Would you agree with the statement that "Sony needs Japan more than Microsoft"?

By the way, I appreciate that you are still engaged with this discussion.
 

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Let me ask you this if we removed the Japanese numbers, do you think it will sell faster than PS4?
I've already give you a possible answer when I talked about what might be the NSW LTD.
Woopah slyly (I don't intend it as an insult) is suggesting right now they are already in the same ballpark (consoles sales outside Japan), probably because he is guessing (as I do) that launch aligned the difference between PS4 and NSW should be now roughly around 13-14 million units in Switch favor.

If ever Switch outsold PS4 then what market do you think will be used as a barometer?
I will give you an answer that's centered on Switch and that may confuse or be unexpected:
One of the barometer that I'm interested to know how will unfold and that I believe will impact the final judgement on Switch is the "Other" region.

Do I need to explain my self more? Just tell me so I can explain it further.
I think we both understood our sides. Won't you agree?
 
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I looked into this before and Switch was around 4 million behind PS4 outside Japan, but with one less holiday. So once we get the next update in Feb Switch should be around level and maybe a bit ahead.
 

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All of your post is irrelevant to what I have said. You are focusing on the words not on the context. Once again I never said that Switch is not successful outside Japan.
So what if Switch Sell 1Billion,1 trillion sales. Japan numbers made it possible. I am talking about markets/region breakdown here. I am talking about sales data here. Why do you think I even bother posting numbers?

You also provided the sales breakdown. If you removed the sales from Japan, Switch will lose a large percentage of it's sales while if you removed it from PS4, It's only a small percentage. Which actually prove my point more.
Then to further explain if we removed NA numbers for both then both won't be successful because they will lose a lot of sales. Just like Playstation need the EU and ROTW market more than Nintendo. Just like Sony can afford to not prioritize Japan with Console shipments but you cannot say that for Nintendo. Nintendo will prioritize Japan more than Europe if they needed to choose.

All markets are important but there will be a certain market where both Console manufacturer will focus because they know they need that market.

Let me ask you this if we removed the Japanese numbers, do you think it will sell faster than PS4? If ever Switch outsold PS4 then what market do you think will be used as a barometer?

Do I need to explain my self more? Just tell me so I can explain it further.
Lol just for that narrative you had run down on this rabbit hole.

We'll see how the numbers for the FY, then maybe a new goalpost from you?
 
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I looked into this before and Switch was around 4 million behind PS4 outside Japan, but with one less holiday. So once we get the next update in Feb Switch should be around level and maybe a bit ahead.
If my math is correct you compared Q2 2020 of nintendo from Q1 of Sony 2017.
So your next comparison will be Q3 from Nintendo and Q2 2017 from Sony that will include the busiest time of the month for Nintendo and that comparison will skewed heavily in Switchfavor and as such an unfair comparison.

The fair comparison will be after we got both Holiday period for both console.

This is also the reason we cannot do a proper launch aligned comparison because of the difference of Launch period.


I've already give you a possible answer when I talked about what might be the NSW LTD.
Woopah slyly (I don't intend it as an insult) is suggesting right now they are already in the same ballpark (consoles sales outside Japan), probably because he is guessing (as I do) that launch aligned the difference between PS4 and NSW should be now roughly around 13-14 million units in Switch favor.


I will give you an answer that's centered on Switch and that may confuse or be unexpected:
One of the barometer that I'm interested to know how will unfold and that I believe will impact the final judgement on Switch is the "Other" region.


I think we both understood our sides. Won't you agree?
1st paragraph see my post above.

2nd PS4 is ahead without Japan numbers by 4 million. I already tried to asked you twice about this but why keep on dodging my question?

3rd I think you understand it. You just don’t want to admit it.
 

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Lol just for that narrative you had run down on this rabbit hole.

We'll see how the numbers for the FY, then maybe a new goalpost from you?
Did I tell something negative to switch for the hostility that I got from this thread? Lol.
If you guys think that Japanese market is not a key market for it’s success then LOL.

It’s amazing how we are on a Japanese and Nintendo breaking records with the help of Japan and some don’t want to acknowledge it because it doesn’t suit their narratives.

Enjoy your sales and the profit nintendo fans. LMAO.
 
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Did I tell something negative to switch for the hostility that I got from this thread? Lol.
If you guys think that Japanese market is not key market for it’s success then LOL.
No. Because the next numbers will be much much ahead of PS4 launch wise, if you substract the units from the Japan it will be kinda same with only 1-2 millions offset. The current number is skewed not the next quarter, the Switch having 1 less holiday compared to PS4 right now.
 
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Guys...

GUYS

GUYS

What if JAPAN DIDN'T EXIST? Surely Nintendo would be fucked!


Switch Tops US Sales In November, First Console To Lead Sales Race For Two Consecutive Years​


Nintendo Switch has outsold PS4, PS5, XBO, and XSX/S combined in UK 2020.​


Nintendo Switch is Now the Best-Selling Video Game Console in Canada for 25 Consecutive Months​


Nintendo Switch surpasses the million and a half units sold in Spain and is once again the most shipped console of the year​


France: Animal Crossing Was the Best-selling Game of 2020 (Retail Only)​


Nintendo Switch was best-selling console in France last year​


etc

Nintendo is doomed without Japan :(





i know you wanna be blind
but it's getting deeply pathetic :messenger_smiling_horns:
 
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Very good and concise way to summarize the kind of ridiculous rationalization I've seen around here to explain away Nintendo absolutely anally devastating the competition.

Yeah, don't look switch numbers in uk,us, canada, spain, france ^^ regions from Japan, right?

Sing but nothing else, thx :)
 
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Did I tell something negative to switch for the hostility that I got from this thread? Lol.
If you guys think that Japanese market is not a key market for it’s success then LOL.

It’s amazing how we are on a Japanese and Nintendo breaking records with the help of Japan and some don’t want to acknowledge it because it doesn’t suit their narratives.

Enjoy your sales and the profit nintendo fans. LMAO.
So my point still stands that Nintendo needs Japan to be successful while it’s an opposite for Sony.
Don't cry foul when you were the one who started this bullshit.
 
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Good Job for a wonderful discussion.

When I never said that Nintendo is doomed without Japan.

Enjoy your sales profit Nintendo fans.
I am out. The hostility lols
 
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"Nintendo needs Japan to be successful"
Other posters showed the sales data that Nintendo Switch has been selling greatly on other markets and very successful.
 

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Good Job for a wonderful discussion.

When I never said that Nintendo is doomed without Japan.

You said this:

"So my point still stands that Nintendo needs Japan to be successful while it’s an opposite for Sony."
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/seriesfamitsu-sales-12-21-20-–-1-3-21-switch-590k-ps5-23k-xsx-339.1585578/page-3#post-261908808

You wrong, look that:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/seriesfamitsu-sales-12-21-20-–-1-3-21-switch-590k-ps5-23k-xsx-339.1585578/page-4#post-261967491

Switch is a success with or without Japan, you made a mistake, it doesn't matter, stay :)
 
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You said this:
Successful- accomplishing an aim or purpose.

english is not my native language but doing a quick search. Hmmmm....

focusing on the words and not the context.
That’s why I chose the word because it fits my comparison between Sony and Nintendo.
When I said successful I never once I said that Nintendo is failing without Japan.
I tried to show the difference between PS4 and Switch. My intent was not to discredit nintendo which a lot of you think I am doing.
I even highlighted my main point.

Difference of strategy between the 2. Because Switch is more tailored than Ps4 in Japan. Don’t you agree?
Softwares shows it, sales shows it.
 
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Successful- accomplishing an aim or purpose.

english is not my native language but doing a quick search. Hmmmm....

focusing on the words and not the context.
That’s why I chose the word because it fits my comparison between Sony and Nintendo.
When I said successful I never once I said that Nintendo is failing without Japan.
I tried to show the difference between PS4 and Switch. My intent was not to discredit nintendo which a lot of you think I am doing.
I even highlighted my main point.

Difference of strategy between the 2. Because Switch is more tailored than Ps4 in Japan. Don’t you agree?
Softwares shows it, sales shows it.
"needs".

Good luck with the context goalpost.
 

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i rly dont get these sales postings...do u ppl get monies for doing it or ? :D