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Silent Trump supporters. Why do many feel such shame over their vote?

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family_guy

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Even then, fuck does that matter, is going "I'll show you I'm not a racist" and voting for him anyway not prompt any self reflection? If someone calls you a racist and your first reaction is anger, not contemplation, isn't that a problem?

The fact that we've turned being called a racist the equivalent to being racist to many people is the core issue here.

Yeah, making a protest vote for Trump because you don't like being labeled a racist doesn't make you look any better.
 

Frozenprince

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Can I just say this is the exact situation I found myself in. I haven't posted in a Trump thread since 2015. I was in the first thread when he announced his decision to run in June absolutely elated and discussing with people how I completely expected him to win and how he had my political and financial support.

And then somewhere in the John McCain pow thread I got banned for, surprise, something I think didn't deserve a ban and I realized that even if I try my best to have a convo about politics here with other members, one mod who doesn't agree or isn't in the mood for it can just end my account. Which just makes the convo, especially in the climate of the last few months, not worth it. So it just became a show them at the voting booth kind of thing. Never posted in another thread again until this one.

So thanks for your post man and taking it on your shoulders to say what the rest of us couldn't.

You are not victims.

Please stop acting like it.
 

CazTGG

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Very well said.

Democrats: You don't like Hillary? You must be racist!

Sorry but like life, it's not that simple. It actually cost them the election bc people were tired of it.

Edit - I'll correct myself. Hillary lost them the election. If Joe was in it, I would seriously have considered him.

This line of logic never ceases to amaze me: If someone accused me of being a cannibal, I don't go around deciding to eat people because people are calling me that. If you don't want to be called a racist, don't vote for someone so overtly racist and backwards or pretend like a vote for Trump isn't a vote for indifference to racism, sexism, Islamophobia, etc. It gives people the opposite impression of you not being a racist.

Ugh no. The majority of voters didn't support him bc of the media storm of how he's perceived as racist. people were just sick of the bs in Washington and the corruption which Hillary literally represents.

"Perceived as racist"? The man called Mexicans rapists when he announced his plans to run for president, among other remarks i'd rather not repeat. There is no perception or debate about it: Donald Trump is overtly racist.

Corruption? Let me introduce you to literally everything Trump has ever put his name on (Trump University, Trump Foundation), including his presidency given how many conflicts of interest he has and his refusal to put his assets into a blind trust.
 

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Okay, so we're angry and we're going to take it out on the base that got played too? The right pitted poor people against minorities, and now they've pitted us against poor people for throwing minorities under the bus. Our scapegoat has become these people and I'm sure the right is laughing how well it's working. Though Trump voters certainly deserve the blame, I just hope we don't lose sight of the real enemies because we're too busy fighting between each other over semantics.

the base is still living in a fantasy land. no matter what anyone says they will believe they are right and it is frustrating as shit.
 

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Ugh no. The majority of voters didn't support him bc of the media storm of how he's perceived as racist. people were just sick of the bs in Washington and the corruption which Hillary literally represents.

As much as white people piss me off on the regular for shit like this election, I wouldn't ever vote for a black supremacist for any political position just because they think we should do something about global warming.

Because I care enough about white people from just a basic level of human empathy to uphold our politicians to a basic qualification of "does not openly treat certain groups of people like shit on the basis of immutable qualities they cannot control," a qualification which would immediately disqualify them from consideration of my vote were it not to be followed.

This election was, in effect, a basic job interview, and the hiring manager failed to consider the requirements of the job because they don't like the job itself and also really like the fact that the hired applicant put his feet up on the desk and "told it like it is."

It's absolute madness that this is being touted as an excuse for what was just legitimized. I mean, seriously, do you really think black people give a shit that the thing you threw them under the bus for was the structural issues of Washington, structural issues that have been exacerbated in part by one party's stated goal of not doing shit because they, essentially, didn't want to be led by a black man?

Are you fucking serious right now?
 

PopeReal

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LOL at "different opinion".

Just grow some balls and say you are ok with his racist policies because you think he will help you somehow.
 
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Okay, so we're angry and we're going to take it out on the base that got played too? The right pitted poor people against minorities, and now they've pitted us against poor people for throwing minorities under the bus. Our scapegoat has become these people and I'm sure the right is laughing how well it's working. Though Trump voters certainly deserve the blame, I just hope we don't lose sight of the real enemies because we're too busy fighting between each other over semantics.

yes were gonna blame them when they almost consistently vote for republicans that end up shitting on them, then 4 years later run right back to them

at some point there gonna have to take some of that personal responsibility they love to trot out
 

PopeReal

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yes were gonna blame them when they almost consistently vote for republicans that end up shitting on them, then 4 years later run right back to them

at some point there gonna have to take some of that personal responsibility they love to trot out

Yep. Bootstrap that shit.

Plus, they should be busy working. Quit being lazy and arguing with liberals online.
 

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You are not victims.

Please stop acting like it.

Not about being a victim. As the poster I quoted said, we are not guaranteed accounts here. Anyone can be banned for any reason, that's the terms of the site. Which we accept. But why put a big target on our backs? Especially at a time when saying something like 'you know..I get what he means about..' made you instantly a racist or sexist or whatever. It's just not worth it to lose access to a community for a few random posts. Which is why I'm glad that poster explained it to people in this thread. Because even if I'm not participatitng, I'm reading all these threads and do have thoughts on the topics.
 

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LOL at "different opinion".

Just grow some balls and say you are ok with his racist policies because you think he will help you somehow.

This is my beef. People just dont wanna link themselves woth racism because its ugly and they dont wanna be ugly. That is all this is.
 

Ekai

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Idk what you want me to say?? There's a few of us here but we don't post very frequently for obvious reasons (but it does feel less restrictive since The Boss shared his thoughts). My last two bans (right before the election) were related to Drumpf and the last ban message said "This is your 11th ban, consider this a perm warning"..I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I can put 2 & 2 together...suddenly after 10-11 bans the perm warning is Drumpf related stuff. It is what it is.This is a private forum not a democracy. I'm not comfortable with posting about politics anymore as my next ban is forever and the reason I care so much is b/c i lose all my thread subscriptions. That's really all there is to it...what questions do you have for us? Ask me some questions and I'll answer 100% truthfully and try to do it in a way that's not too personalized. I am a Republican (in spirit, still a registered Democrat) and I voted for Donald Drumpf in a swing state. I am not in the least bit ashamed of my vote and I read the board often and smh at quite a few threads and posts. So let me have it OP...

I consistently ask how you or any other Trump supporter can justify claiming you support the LGBT community while voting for the most anti-LGBT platform of the modern USA era. I never get a response. I just get told by people like you that you're the true victim whenever I try. Or I get responses that attempt to erase all the justified fear that people have for their very lives with a far-right wing government that actively wants to ruin this nation. Please stop acting like you're some victim when your vote contributed to ruining the lives of millions.

That you constantly turn tail when asked tough questions or asked to justify how you can even vote for such bigotry is baffling to me. If you refuse to participate in discussion or even answer any question period then I don't even see why you're here. You seem to just want to cry victim without at all understanding why people ask you the tough questions that they do. Would you kindly stop victimizing yourself when you're the one who voted for the man who scape-goated millions of minorities? Who has a platform/VP/cabinet that is heavily anti-LGBT, religious minority, racial minority etc. etc. What did you want? You can't claim that you actually care about minorities while voting for the most fascist political party the USA has ever seen.

Can I just say this is the exact situation I found myself in. I haven't posted in a Drumpf thread since 2015. I was in the first thread when he announced his decision to run in June absolutely elated and discussing with people how I completely expected him to win and how he had my political and financial support.

And then somewhere in the John McCain pow thread I got banned for, surprise, something I think didn't deserve a ban and I realized that even if I try my best to have a convo about politics here with other members, one mod who doesn't agree or isn't in the mood for it can just end my account. Which just makes the convo, especially in the climate of the last few months, not worth it. So it just became a show them at the voting booth kind of thing. Never posted in another thread again until this one.

So thanks for your post man and taking it on your shoulders to say what the rest of us couldn't.

See above. Minorities and the poor (and the environment, education standards, etc. etc. etc. etc.) are the victims here.
 

Frozenprince

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Not about being a victim. As the poster I quoted said, we are not guaranteed accounts here. Anyone can be banned for any reason, that's the terms of the site. Which we accept. But why put a big target on our backs? Especially at a time when saying something like 'you know..I get what he means about..' made you instantly a racist or sexist or whatever. It's just not worth it to lose access to a community for a few random posts. Which is why I'm glad that poster explained it to people in this thread. Because even if I'm not participatitng, I'm reading all these threads and do have thoughts on the topics.

The administrator and owner of the site said point blank nobody would be banned for having a differing political view from somebody else.

You get banned if you cross a line and say something derogatory.

Note that there have been multiple threads today with people who have said they voted for Trump posting in them and none of them got banned.
 

Sunster

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Not about being a victim. As the poster I quoted said, we are not guaranteed accounts here. Anyone can be banned for any reason, that's the terms of the site. Which we accept. But why put a big target on our backs? Especially at a time when saying something like 'you know..I get what he means about..' made you instantly a racist or sexist or whatever. It's just not worth it to lose access to a community for a few random posts. Which is why I'm glad that poster explained it to people in this thread. Because even if I'm not participatitng, I'm reading all these threads and do have thoughts on the topics.

When did this ever happen?
 

xxracerxx

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Not about being a victim. As the poster I quoted said, we are not guaranteed accounts here. Anyone can be banned for any reason, that's the terms of the site. Which we accept. But why put a big target on our backs? Especially at a time when saying something like 'you know..I get what he means about..' made you instantly a racist or sexist or whatever. It's just not worth it to lose access to a community for a few random posts. Which is why I'm glad that poster explained it to people in this thread. Because even if I'm not participatitng, I'm reading all these threads and do have thoughts on the topics.

You said yourself that you supported Trump from the get-go even though during that same speech he called Mexicans rapists.

Being able to look past that is a huge leap for many of us and seems very self-serving. So when you are saying "I get what he is really trying to say" while the rest of us are actually listening/reading his words at face value, it makes things look less than favorable on your outlook for other people.
 

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Because at the end of the day it boils down to two things. They are either extremely ignorant or selfish bigots. Most fall into the first category, and no one likes being called stupid, brain dead or misinformed; no matter how true those accusations are

I hear this more and more. The anti-liberal sentiment has a lot to do with the movement of anti-intellectualism that is widely practiced with right wing indoctrination's. The major complaint is that the level of discourse is deliberately over their heads, and the anxiety of being talked down to or being called stupid and uneducated runs deep. Acting out in the most fuck you way would be to cast a vote to let it all burn and set progress back for everyone. Level the playing field, if only for an imaginary moment.
 

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Name these illusive "real issues".

I mean I said them in my post, but...

Obamacare. Many people voted for Trump to repeal Obamacare.
Government spending.
Taxes.
Stopping outsourcing. Of course it's debatable if we should really stop it, but for those that believe it should be stopped.
Hillary Clinton. If you don't think there are issues with her candidacy, that's fine, it's your opinion. But many voters viewed the fact that she was being investigated by the FBI as a real issue. That's not to mention her constant flip flopping in her political career, and how she handled her husband's affair. Her character is a real issue. If you disagree, see all of the, "if Biden had just run..." posts.

I'd urge you to not be close minded. The fact that you phrased your question the way you did is indicative of being so. If you can't think of a real reason why someone would pick Trump over Hillary besides bigotry, you are greatly contributing to the amount of silent supporters.

I understand this. But I think it's best to see it from the viewpoint of the oppressed. Sure, Trump voters most likely were concerned about jobs, Hillary's character, taxes, but by doing so, they are effectively saying that the real oppression and discrimination is less important than jobs. They are saying that who these people are are less than material things.

Yeah but that's not really what we're talking about, is it? We're talking about what influenced them, not what should have influenced them. I agree with the sentiment behind your post, but it's probably too idealistic. You're asking voters to vote for the greater good as opposed to what is beneficial to them. I don't really see that ever happening. I can't really think of any time in history where the citizens didn't put their self-interests first and foremost.
 
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I dont think anyone here feels shame, there just isnt a discussion to be had. You've all made up your minds and have made your thoughts on Trump and his supporters quite clear, there is nothing to talk about.
 

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Ugh no. The majority of voters didn't support him bc of the media storm of how he's perceived as racist. people were just sick of the bs in Washington and the corruption which Hillary literally represents.

The media shit storm had nothing to do with his support of stop and frisk, nor his defense of an outright Muslim ban, nor his defense of a Muslim registration. That's if I'm being extremely kind by assuming his comments about Mexicans were taken out of context, giving him a pass on not apologizing to 5 wrongly accused black kids, ignoring his comments to a Mexican judge and ignoring his past law suits for not renting to black people.

There was a media shit storm though

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/1...on-obliterated-clinton-policy-coverage/214242
 

Enzom21

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Not about being a victim. As the poster I quoted said, we are not guaranteed accounts here. Anyone can be banned for any reason, that's the terms of the site. Which we accept. But why put a big target on our backs? Especially at a time when saying something like 'you know..I get what he means about..' made you instantly a racist or sexist or whatever. It's just not worth it to lose access to a community for a few random posts. Which is why I'm glad that poster explained it to people in this thread. Because even if I'm not participatitng, I'm reading all these threads and do have thoughts on the topics.

Unless the "about" was something "racist or sexist or whatever," then this did not happen.
 

Nafai1123

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Not about being a victim. As the poster I quoted said, we are not guaranteed accounts here. Anyone can be banned for any reason, that's the terms of the site. Which we accept. But why put a big target on our backs? Especially at a time when saying something like 'you know..I get what he means about..' made you instantly a racist or sexist or whatever. It's just not worth it to lose access to a community for a few random posts. Which is why I'm glad that poster explained it to people in this thread. Because even if I'm not participatitng, I'm reading all these threads and do have thoughts on the topics.

"you know...I get what he means about..."

The end of that sentence determines whether it's a bannable offense or not. I'm perplexed that people enjoy this site and yet are fine with voting for a POTUS who would be banned. Call me crazy but I would like to believe that the POTUS should be held to a higher standard of speech than GAF.
 

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It's pretty simple, saying anything that wasn't promoting Hillary was akin to branding yourself with a scarlet letter. Not just here, though definitely, definitely here. In public as well. In the media, in your day to day, online, etc. It started w/ the Bernie movement and it just got out of control after the primaries. It's still out of control, look at the first page and how many people can't see the forest thru the trees and really believe that they didn't play a part in pushing people away from the Democratic party.

"Fall in line or you're ________" is a great way to earn a big ole middle finger from a lot of people and that's what happened. And then you have public dogpiling, bumrushing, shaming, bullying, etc. Rampant, it's scary as shit to see that stuff happen (especially as the people on the offensive were criticizing crazies on the other side). Y'all done lost your damn minds over a career politician.

I say this as a non-Trump supporter who actually paid attention to both sides from the jump. There's no mystery, OP.
 

Ekai

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I dont think anyone here feels shame, there just isnt a discussion to be had. You've all made up your minds and have made your thoughts on Drumpf and his supporters quite clear, there is nothing to talk about.

There is plenty to discuss. Such as their self-victimization when asked to justify their votes that ruin the lives of millions of minorities. That they refuse to at all address this (without talking down to minorities/telling them that they, the Trump voter, are the true victim) is telling to me.
 

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To answer OP's question: you've seen/heard Trump, right?

I've seen Trump supporters who haven't actually seen/heard Trump.

Literally had a conversation like this:
"Clinton is a liar"
"Trump lies all the time"
"He does not"
"There's tons of videos showing him lying."
"I haven't seen those..."

I've also seen it a lot, where they will say that the racist things that Trump has been accused of, weren't things he actually said. "Liberal media just doesn't like Trump."
 

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There is plenty to discuss. Such as their self-victimization when asked to justify their votes that ruin the lives of millions of minorities. That they refuse to at all address this (without talking down to minorities/telling them that they, the Trump voter, are the true victim) is telling to me.

Every post you quote with the President's name in it you facetiously edit to 'Drumpf.' This is the type of stuff that just makes a lot of us stay out of the discussion because we're being mocked from every angle.
 

Frozenprince

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Every post you quote with the President's name in it you facetiously edit to 'Drumpf.' This is the type of stuff that just makes a lot of us stay out of the discussion because we're being mocked from every angle.

It's an add-on for Chrome.

You're being mocked? That's nice.

I got called a terrorist the other day.
 

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The administrator and owner of the site said point blank nobody would be banned for having a differing political view from somebody else.

You get banned if you cross a line and say something derogatory.

Note that there have been multiple threads today with people who have said they voted for Trump posting in them and none of them got banned.
I'm have no solid proof, but I have a hunch Bishop got demodded for not following that rule. I got banned (You can check the third page of this thread for the quote) for saying nothing more than what some are saying in this thread. That not everyone who disagrees with the left is a bigot and that people shouldn't just jump the gun on those people. The excuse for my banning was "No handwaving today."

Cut to about a month later and I see a thread saying Bishop got demodded, and saw that another poster who got banned in that thread had his ban lifted early. I check if I can sign in, and my ban is also lifted early. I could be wrong, but it would be a hell of a coincidence.
 

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A lot of people I work with don't really talk about it because they really don't like Trump, but when you live in a deep red state a lot of people don't see the democrat as a viable alternative. In the instances the election results came up, it's generally amounted to variations of "I'm glad Clinton lost, but I'm still worried about Trump."

Other than one hardcore "libertarian"-approaching-anarchist I work with who basically hopes Trump completely destroys America and we can start over from a clean slate.
 

xxracerxx

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Y'all done lost your damn minds over a career politician.

It is much more than Clinton losing, it has more to do with what Trump was actually saying he wants to do/did.

If Sanders/Biden was running and Trump said exactly the same things, you don't think the same shit would have happened?
 

Ekai

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Every post you quote with the President's name in it you facetiously edit to 'Drumpf.' This is the type of stuff that just makes a lot of us stay out of the discussion because we're being mocked from every angle.

I don't edit anything to Drumpf. My plug-in does that for me whenever Trump appears on the page. But not when I type it. You should only see Trump unless you have the Drumpf app yourself.

That you'd rather comment on this matter than the very real issue that you knowingly voted to ruin the lives of millions of minorities is telling to me.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me that the very people who decry how "we can't say what we really mean in our society anymore" are the first people to say, "wah, I'm not posting because you'll call me names!"

More like they're not posting because they're not allowed to call you names back.

You can tell all trump supporters here believe this because they're being very polite right now when the other side is calling them racists and morons. It's been a one sided flamewar.
 

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I don't edit anything to Trump. My plug-in does that for me whenever Trump appears on the page. But not when I type it. You should only see Trump unless you have the Drumpf app yourself. That you'd rather comment on this matter than the very real issue that you knowingly voted to ruin the lives of millions of minorities is telling to me.

I'm on my phone, no addons and it appears that way. But it's annoying to want to reply to someone and see they sneakily edited your post for what other reason than to make fun.

And, now according to the person I'd begin a conversation with, I voted to ruin the lives of millions. How would you like me to enter the conversation from here, what's the point for me?
 

Nafai1123

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It is much more than Clinton losing, it has more to do with what Trump was actually saying he wants to do/did.

If Sanders/Biden was running and Trump said exactly the same things, you don't think the same shit would have happened?

Exactly. When minority groups are screaming emphatically that what you are doing is going to hurt them, maybe try listening instead of burying your head in the sand and crying out that YOU'RE the one being discriminated against? It's absolutely absurd.
 

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I'm have no solid proof, but I have a hunch Bishop got demodded for not following that rule. I got banned (You can check the first page for the quote) for saying nothing more than what some are saying in this thread. That not everyone who disagrees with the left is a bigot and that people shouldn't just jump the gun on those people. The excuse for my banning was "No handwaving today."

Cut to about a month later and I see a thread saying Bishop got demodded, and saw that another poster who got banned in that thread had his ban lifted early. I check if I can sign in, and my ban is also lifted early. I doubt that it's a coincidence.

Yeah... It's probably best to talk to the source before believing such "hunches". How about your PM Bish and ask him how he is like many others may have already done *hint* before suggesting he got "de-modded". The guy has been moderating on this site longer than most of us have been members.

As I said here in this very topic I suspect emotional stress and tiredness is at an all time high for owners and mods here. Would any of us liked to have tried to moderate this place during the election? Or even now? Doubt it. It would make a sane person go insane.

Some of us would be better to have a "hunch" about why modbot is probably used more than ever and half the time you barely see one red name actually interacting in any political topics other than to nudge discourse/warn/lock the topic. 90% of the time they are probably too busy reading to interact, 10% of the time as arbitrators of GAF they probably cannot be bothered with the community going off like a buzzsaw that "GAF is x". Even although moderators are individuals at heart. I dunno if any of them supported Trump, probably not, I doubt many on GAF did. This is largely a liberal and left leaning board, but as said by a few of us in here now the board does try to value open discourse over singular discourse.

It might not have been perfect around the election, but holy mother of God this election was a bit of a one of a kind in recent times. Not an easy storm for a board of this size to weather, let alone a small base of moderators versus tens of thousands of users.
 

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I'm on my phone, no addons and it appears that way. But it's annoying to want to reply to someone and see they sneakily edited your post for what other reason than to make fun.

And, now according to the person I'd begin a conversation with, I voted to ruin the lives of millions. How would you like me to enter the conversation from here, what's the point for me?

By not getting overly defensive when someone tells you what you voted for. A vote for Trump is a vote to ruin the lives of minorities and that's not really debatable.
 

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No, most voters voted for Clinton, not Trump

correct. I mean trump supporters.

Addressing some other comments:

As for the electorial college, if it wasn't in play, no one would care about half of this country so it's necessary. Otherwise people go to Cali, NY and we would just be run by liberals all day! I'm a new yorker so I speak from experience ; )

I love his cabinet picks except for the latest (Rick Perry) - terrible choice. Check my posts if you're interested on my views why

National debt questions - are you the guy asking about googling it? I actually had to google everything b/c you're much smarter than me. Back to reality - debt is a big deal for obvious reasons - I'm sure you were being sarcastic but I do believe it can be turned around. With Obama increasing it even more than GW (8 million compared to 6 million - facts) and GDP still in the toilet, I'll see what Trump can do with his proven business background (ex - he's a billionaire with a global business - fact), along with his cabinet choices who are also proven in the business world. Gov profit = surplus for americans and everyone is happy.

Why is hillary pure evil? I didn't address this b/c it's so clear and has been said so many times. Emails, benghazi, Clinton foundation, dems love to say it's all made up but how do these stories keep on happening? Smashing blackberrys called out by the FBI was my personal fav. She is exactly who you want to keep out of the whitehouse. Best part is for someone who has dedicated her life to try to be president it feels so good to see her fail b/c her corruption was so close to getting in but god bless this country for saying no (and yes electorial college is how you win for the reasons I stated above).

As for Biden, never said I would vote for the man - I said I would consider him as a candidate b/c he seems to be genuine and truthful. Could be wrong but he has the people's intentions in his heart and although I don't agree with him on everything, I respect him.

I think that was everything.
 

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Why are you complaining about such silly things when real discrimination like people typing "Drumpf" is going on?

I know right, silly me, not wanting to bring my child to the store with me anymore because of the repugnant things people are saying in the checkout line.

Boy howdy it sure must be hard being a Trump supporter.
 

xxracerxx

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Why is hillary pure evil? I didn't address this b/c it's so clear and has been said so many times. Emails, benghazi, Clinton foundation, dems love to say it's all made up but how do these stories keep on happening? Smashing blackberrys called out by the FBI was my personal fav. She is exactly who you want to keep out of the whitehouse. Best part is for someone who has dedicated her life to try to be president it feels so good to see her fail b/c her corruption was so close to getting in but god bless this country for saying no (and yes electorial college is how you win for the reasons I stated above).

How do you feel about Trump's corruption/dishonesty?
 

Gotdatmoney

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I'm on my phone, no addons and it appears that way. But it's annoying to want to reply to someone and see they sneakily edited your post for what other reason than to make fun.

And, now according to the person I'd begin a conversation with, I voted to ruin the lives of millions. How would you like me to enter the conversation from here, what's the point for me?

Are you still acusing this poster of editing your posts?
 
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