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Siliconera: NieR: Automata Has An Autopilot Feature That Does The Fighting For You
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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Neoleo2143
Member
That's kinda like Bayo's Auto fight mode. Neat that they put it in. Or that above statement.
DracoBlade
Member
I wish Taro would just setup an autobuy function through my wallet already.
Cool for people who want to enjoy the world of Nier!
Leona Lewis
Banned
They should transplant this game's combat into FFXV.
While I realise hardcore players may disdain these things, I think they're great as they help address something that is almost unique to gaming - that you can buy an entertainment product that you might not be able to see the 'ending' of, based on your personal skill base & ceiling.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
DMC does something similar with the Automatic modes.
Glass Rebel
Member
Yea, Siliconera is making this sound as something new or unique to Nier: Automata.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Touch mode for Bayonetta was basically that.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
In Bayonetta and Devil May Cry, it automatically completes basic combos for you.
I honestly don't understand how any newcomers to the series will find this encouraging. One of the main points of playing a new game is learning the ropes and "getting gud". This is of course coming from a guy who's first video game was croc 1, holy cow was that game hard as fuck, don't understand how i found it fun back when i was a kid.
SE's call, or Platinum's? Or perhaps a bit of both: "so you guys keep doing this auto play sort of thing in your games? Why not incorporate it into this one?"
And finally, a game where you might seriously want that, Bayonetta seems kinda pointless with auto play-type stuff even if it's honestly kind of a good idea out of principle to offer it if there's no online component to worry about and people really just want to see a spectacle.
And finally, a game where you might seriously want that, Bayonetta seems kinda pointless with auto play-type stuff even if it's honestly kind of a good idea out of principle to offer it if there's no online component to worry about and people really just want to see a spectacle.
Good to have this kind of an option to make it more approachable. It can definitely prevent putting off people from the game, even though there is an easy difficulty setting, people not familiar/not good at combat games still may not find it as fun as they want it to be due to not being able to pull off the flashy combos and what not that they saw in the trailers.
This helps ease them in while delivering to them what they saw in the trailers. Of course if they get to a point where it becomes too easy, they are encouraged to actually learn some of the systems by not having the feature available on higher difficulties.
Good addition.
This helps ease them in while delivering to them what they saw in the trailers. Of course if they get to a point where it becomes too easy, they are encouraged to actually learn some of the systems by not having the feature available on higher difficulties.
Good addition.
dragonzdogma
Member
Kinda offtopic but after shinji left i only trust kajima and the director of mgr, Who's in charge of nier automata?
And what is the director of mgr up to?
And what is the director of mgr up to?
KZXcellent
Member
I believe the Director of MGR is in charge of Automata
This kind of stuff is just depressing. Are we beyond easy modes now? We're okay with games literally playing themselves?
Do we need to be babied this fucking hard?
Do we really, seriously believe that people will suddenly be interested in playing this if only they had the option to... not play it?
It's a Let's Play with a 60 dollar price tag.
Do we need to be babied this fucking hard?
Do we really, seriously believe that people will suddenly be interested in playing this if only they had the option to... not play it?
It's a Let's Play with a 60 dollar price tag.
Some people only play the games for the stories, so I think it's a fine feature. Admittedly, I'm not sure why you may buy something like Bayonetta or DMC since the action's the focus. I could see games like Dragon Age/Mass Effect games possibly benefiting from it though. I personally wouldn't use it since I think I'd get bored though with the majority of a game usually being combat.
Cheat Code
Member
Or maybe the less able players want to enjoy the lore and story?
That's like saying subtitles makes movie too easy to watch.
That's the major point though, you were a kid.
As a kid I presume that your parents got you the game so you were determined to make it through and persevere since you might not have had much else to go ahead and play instead.
As well as that, as an adult you probably have more things going on in your life / vying for your attention, so you're less likely to push through with something that infuriates you when you can either shelf it and buy something easier or worse for Square & Platinum never buy their games again due to perceived hardcore difficulty levels.
It's fine for the people that want it even if I don't really understand the folks that would use it.
I mean why buy a video game that you aren't actually going to play?
toddhunter
Member
Well some people enjoy the character design in ff12.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well most of their games have an easy automatic mode so this isn't surprising.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Sounds lame, but I guess there is a market for it.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
I think people are misunderstanding what this actually does.
These modes in PG games perform basic freeform combos automatically. I.E combos that make use of mechanics and concepts that people that don't play action games may be unfamiliar with.
It's not so much "the game plays itself" as its the game doing things 80% of the playerbase doesn't know how to do on their own....automatically. It's a good way for people to see what's possible in the combat system first hand without outside resources, or just spice up a casual playthrough with more interesting combinations than ground PPP and KKK chains.
These modes in PG games perform basic freeform combos automatically. I.E combos that make use of mechanics and concepts that people that don't play action games may be unfamiliar with.
It's not so much "the game plays itself" as its the game doing things 80% of the playerbase doesn't know how to do on their own....automatically. It's a good way for people to see what's possible in the combat system first hand without outside resources, or just spice up a casual playthrough with more interesting combinations than ground PPP and KKK chains.
The Strokes
Banned
Or you know, not everyone is good at this kind of games but are enthralled by them.
There are some people who have no interest in learning doge offsets or what have you and just want to experience the fuckery these games are known for.
This is a feature that does not in any way effect you, a player who is likely not using this mode.
More features are good and making the game more accessible is also good.
Yeah I disagree with that - both of it, but that is a moot point and has been talked to death before.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Were you one of the misguided people asking for an easy mode for Bloodborne or Souls games?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Hope there is a gaze of despair equivalent in this.
One of platinums smartest ideas and unlike every other mechanic, has not been reused outside of Bayonetta.
One of platinums smartest ideas and unlike every other mechanic, has not been reused outside of Bayonetta.
I'm all for adding optional features that allow more people to experience the games we love. It's not a feature I'd want to use, but say there's someone out there with a disability that makes the fighting segments difficult if not outright impossible. If this feature makes it easier for them to enjoy the game world, then that's great. The more options, the merrier.
I thought UC4 was a pretty disappointing game, but I applaud Naughty Dog for adding the handicapped-friendly features like lock-on and camera assist and automated QTEs, which allowed a handicapped fan of theirs to enjoy the game. Stuff like this should be standard whenever possible. No one should feel left out.
I thought UC4 was a pretty disappointing game, but I applaud Naughty Dog for adding the handicapped-friendly features like lock-on and camera assist and automated QTEs, which allowed a handicapped fan of theirs to enjoy the game. Stuff like this should be standard whenever possible. No one should feel left out.
Why is making a game
(optionally)
You are aware that more people buying a game means more chance of Platnium continuing to make great games in the next 5 - 10 years right?
"Oh I can buy this game and not play it, totally getting it now!" - I seriously doubt that'll generate any extra sales whatsoever. Either you are interested in the game or not. Being able to watch it play itself won't tip any scales imo. Like I said, if you plan on it from the very start, you might just as well watch a let's play.
KZXcellent
Member
Why does this bother people? The immature elitism is astounding.
Then they should watch it on youtube. There shouldn't be options in games to make them not games.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Agreed.
It doesn't bother me. I just think it's lame. If I don't like the way mechanics of a game then I won't buy it. Finding out that it has a mode that complete actions for me would not change my mind.
Because it takes the most essential part of a game away. Playing it.
That's like looking up the plot twist of a movie beforehand to make it easier to understand, or scrap watching it altogether and just reading the summary on wikipedia.
People shouldn't even have the option to use it. That's how bad it is. Easy mode should be more than enough. Overcoming any sort of challenge is integral to the experience of a game.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I YouTube games I don't want to play, but enjoy the story.
Do you hate audiobooks? How dare someone make a novel not a novel!
But that's the thing, the people who this feature is appealing to don't "plan" to make a purchase, they'll make a purchase based on the cool marketing footage that they see.
Also, this feature is not playing the entire game for you, it's making the frustrating parts that people with less dexterity skills than you, enjoy.
The feature might not add extra sales to the game directly but adding it will make people more receptive to trying out Square and Platinum games in the future.
Lets put it this way, if you picked up a game and found it not to your liking would you willingly buy another game by said developer?
Probably not right?
That's the point of these features to entice people to become familiar with your products in whatever way you can & build a consumer relationship with them.
KZXcellent
Member
There's plenty of people who are terrible at action games or even disabled people who want to enjoy themselves. On top of that you have fans of the Yoko Taro's stories and want to support them rather than just looking it up on YouTube.
I just don't get how the option existing is a problem. I'm not gonna use it, but if there's someone who will I think that's important and a good thing.