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So has anyone got into the MGO Beta?

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Autumn Thread said:
I don't think I'm allowed to post pics.

The combat is really f**king cool, there's different lobbies, each named after a MGS character ; Snake, Otacon, Liquid etc (yeah, 95% of the people are in Snake lobby).

- It's rather annoying to change to first person mode (L1+triangle) especially when you're fighting people. The box has made a return! It's pretty funny that I managed to kill quite from a cardboard box that totally didn't fit in with the environment.

- There are only two maps in the beta. One looks like the arctic and the other is something like the middle east that we see in the trailers and gameplay footage.

- Voice chat is supported aswell as typing. To bring up chat window is left or right on the d-pad.

- To change to the position on your back once laying down is triangle, tapping triangle and holding the joystick in whatever direction will allow you to roll in that said direction.

- Grendaes are cool, so are stun knifes.

- No slow down, solid frame rate.

YES YES YES. I DONT CARE HOW STUPID THIS SOUNDS. BUT THAT IS GOOD NEWS!
 

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I forgot to add to that first person mode question that once you let go of the aim button (L1) it releases you from first person mode entirely. Sorry :lol

Ok, I'll go play now.
 

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OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMGGMGO

sorry but there is one thing i absolutely have to know... is there camera orientation? is there an option to go into fpv while facing the same direction you had the camera in? or is the only option to go into fpv and face the characters direction!?!??!?

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*waits for more info*

*sweat doplets forming*

*teeth grinding*

*hand..... not fapping....*
 
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Just to let u know how crazy i am right now, i bought an extra PS2, and extra TV and an extra MG:Subsistence just to play with my bro online!

I CANT FREAKING WAIT FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Autumn Thread said:
I forgot to add to that first person mode question that once you let go of the aim button (L1) it releases you from first person mode entirely. Sorry :lol

Ok, I'll go play now.

So let me get this right. Assuming your default camera is the MGS3: Subsistance one (3rd person + free camera rotation on right stick):

Hold L1 - Switches to over the shoulder/RE4 mode
Hold L1, tap Triangle while still holding L1 - Goes into 1st person view (you can lean tilting the controller)
Release L1 - goes back to default camera

Correct?

I assume you shoot by pressing R1?
 

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TTP said:
So let me get this right. Assuming your default camera is the MGS3: Subsistance one (3rd person + free camera rotation on right stick):

Hold L1 - Switches to over the shoulder/RE4 mode
Hold L1, press Square, release Square, keep holding L1 - Goes into 1st person view (you can lean tilting the controller)
Release L1 - goes back to default camera

Correct?
i think he said triangle but that sounds right.
 

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damn i was hoping you had to hold down triangle so it'd be hard to move annnnnd shoot. oh well.
 

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Why would you hope for that?
nostalgia. but if fps mode turns out like i think i will. i think the old style i loved so much will still be prominant, but the game will have more variance too.
 

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i hope no one except the japanese get in.

western feedback could destroy mgo .___.

Wait so if it sucks online it's better that only Japanese players buy it so Americans don't know how bad it is before making the purchase? That is about as fanboy as it gets. Either a game is good or a game is bad. If it's bad then unless you own stock in Konami you shouldn't want to try to hide the game from gamers.:lol
 

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Wait so if it sucks online it's better that only Japanese players buy it so Americans don't know how bad it is before making the purchase? That is about as fanboy as it gets. Either a game is good or a game is bad. If it's bad then unless you own stock in Konami you shouldn't want to try to hide the game from gamers.:lol
no its actually a case of me thinking, western gamers dont know what they want. ya, it sounds pretentious but i think im right in the case of this one particular game.
 

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TTP said:
So let me get this right. Assuming your default camera is the MGS3: Subsistance one (3rd person + free camera rotation on right stick):

Hold L1 - Switches to over the shoulder/RE4 mode
Hold L1, tap Triangle while still holding L1 - Goes into 1st person view (you can lean tilting the controller)
Release L1 - goes back to default camera

Correct?

I assume you shoot by pressing R1?
That's pretty much how it was in Subsistence, wasn't it? I hate holding L1, just let me lock the camera back there like RE4 and I'd be in heaven.

Heck, just allow me to swap those controls. Give me the option to have the default be RE4-style and holding L1 releases the camera and allows me to rotate it with the right stick without moving my character

This Coolio person better not get in the beta and ruin it for everyone, forcing me to use a control sceme I don't like is a quick way to make me a hater
 

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kenta said:
That's pretty much how it was in Subsistence, wasn't it?

Not really. IIRC you had to press Square to shoot which ment you couldn't simultaneously aim manually using the right stick. If you shoot with R1 in MGO for PS3, it's not that much different than your usual precision aiming system.

But I think Snake was able to strafe&rotate while shooting in FP mode in the demo video so there is hope R1 was actually used there.
 

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I signed up for this beta in japanese when it first got announced....what is the chances of me getting in.
 

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ohhh i think i get what autumn meant

l1 for lock on

then:

tap square for free aim
tap triangle for fpv.

i think thats what he meant
 

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no its actually a case of me thinking, western gamers dont know what they want. ya, it sounds pretentious but i think im right in the case of this one particular game.

what a fuckin' tool
 

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kenta said:
That's pretty much how it was in Subsistence, wasn't it? I hate holding L1, just let me lock the camera back there like RE4 and I'd be in heaven.

Heck, just allow me to swap those controls. Give me the option to have the default be RE4-style and holding L1 releases the camera and allows me to rotate it with the right stick without moving my character

This Coolio person better not get in the beta and ruin it for everyone, forcing me to use a control sceme I don't like is a quick way to make me a hater

having the option to lock the camera for 3rd person aiming is fine with me. it actually sounds like a handicap though.
 

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SlackMage said:
what a fuckin' tool
the guy who said something he obviously knew would be an unpopular opinion, or the guy that bothered calling him out on it?
 

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the guy who said something he obviously knew would be an unpopular opinion, or the guy that bothered calling him out on it?

really didn't take much effort to call you a tool. Also , yes, ignorant/offensive comments are usually unpopular.
 

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SlackMage said:
really didn't take much effort to call you a tool. Also , yes, ignorant/offensive comments are usually unpopular.
how was that offensive? are western gamers really an oppressed minority or something?

im basically just relating mgo to something like a dinner that looks unappetizing but tastes good.
 

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Okay, just finished a few rounds. Heres the answers and some new exciting things I found.

Coolio - Yes, it stays in the same position you were in previously.

TTP - Yeah, same thing.

Some interesting things happened in a match I hosted. For one, I saw the power of the claymore first hand, people go flying, whilst burning. It's a really nice looking explosion.

This isn't something related to the game mechanics or whatever but some crazy ass player joined my game and actually killed people by sneaking up on them, strangling them until they were blacked out (you have an oxygen metre under the health bar) and then would proceed to head shot them. Crazy.

I had a better look around at the rank system or 'score sheet'.
You've got your normal kills, deaths etc like most other shooter games. You get your headshots counted also which brings me onto the next thing I tried out;

The Sniper Rifle!

10x zoom for your evil intentions!
Once you fire it the recoil is pretty intense, you totally lose your aim if you wanted to take another shot.
 

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Are we really going to have to manipulate three different inputs just to fucking aim and shoot, again?

:(

I don't want MGS to become "just another shooter" but for pity's sake give my hands a fucking break dude.
 

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sweet. so the the direction the subsistence camera faces is the same direction that the 3rd and 1st person cameras snap too?

and lol @ the claymore power. sounds sweet.

as for the sneaking stuff, i know a few players who'd get a real kick out of it

ohh yeah. one more question.... for now.

did you get to pick your player name or does it just use the psn ids?
 

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Safe Bet said:
Are we really going to have to manipulate three different inputs just to fucking aim and shoot, again?

:(

I don't want MGS to become "just another shooter" but for pity's sake give my hands a fucking break dude.
just l1 and r1 (assuming thats the shoot button) for 3rd person shooting. mirite?
 

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Thanks Autumn! I hope that ninjas from konami dont knock on your door. :D


Can you tell us anything new about CQC? Can you still knock players down by running and pressing X [jump and roll]?
 

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Trout said:
I hope to god shoot is r1...or at least let us customize the controller config.
its gotta be r1. r2 is 2ndary fire in 3rd person so it only makes sense :\
 

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just l1 and r1 (assuming thats the shoot button) for 3rd person shooting. mirite?
That would be 4 inputs just to fire your weapon...

L1 + R1 + Right Stick + Left Stick

Edit: Don't listen to me I'm getting confused just talking about MGS's gameplay.
 

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Safe Bet said:
That would be 4 inputs just to fire your weapon...

L1 + R1 + Right Stick + Left Stick

Oh well...

In Mr. Kojima I trust...
that would mean the average fps has 3. and doesnt accurate shooting in gears take 4 as well?
 

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Safe Bet said:
That would be 4 inputs just to fire your weapon...

L1 + R1 + Right Stick + Left Stick

Oh well...

In Mr. Kojima I trust...

Again, how is that different from your standard precision shooting scheme? Dont you
"L1 + R1 + Right Stick + Left Stick" in GRAW2 for example? It would be perfect if it worked like that.
 

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ThePeter said:
we do know it.
i hope he will say something along the lines of "BELIEVE" in regards to an awesome trailer this thursday/soon enough!



...please?
^^
 

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I'm still amazed at the force blur and stuff from the explosion, I think it's fucking awesome :lol

That guy who strangle > head shot me was something else :( Hideo Kojima himself playing confirmed.