so Killzone sorta confirms it; PS4 aims at 1080p/30fps. Expected? disappointed?

[Salsa]

I honestly thought they were gonna pull a 720p on us again, so I guess its still better than expected, but the 30fps thing (wich im sure will have some exceptions with racing games and such) does make me look away and confirms what will probably still be a PC-only future for me.

Thoughts?

 

[Loudninja]

Its a launch title so thats a good start.

 

[MoonLightWave]

I expect 1080p 30fps for most games this gen. It's 2013 after all.

 

[Takuya]

Probably using 4GB GDDR5 though on their devkit since it looks like 8GB GDDR5 was a very late addition. But I think 1080p/30fps will be the majority of games, first party at least.

 

[demosthenes]

KZ always has a ton of stuff going on all over the place and it's a launch game. I highly doubt they'll finish the PS4 off at just 30fps.

I would expect fighting games and racing games that don't have as much going on will be able to push higher than 30fps around launch as well.

 

[Stark]

Expected. Of course they'd take the resolution > framerate choice.

They said you had a choice though.

 

[therealminime]

Yeah, 1080p at 30fps for a launch title makes me pretty happy. 1080p alone is great.

 

[chickdigger802]

I need at least 45

At least ps4 would look better on my 1440p monitor than ps3 (barf).

 

[RedSwirl]

Depends on the game. As always, some games will be 30, some 60 but less pretty. Hopefully we can maybe 60 established as the standard for certain genres.

 

[guek]

Games that aim for 1080p 60fps will be 1080p 60fps

 

[.GqueB.]

I think I'm the only person on earth that hates 60fps. Every game I see that run 60fps loses any and all cinematic feel. It's this bizarre smoothness that alway makes me a little nauseous.

 

[Nirolak]

I expect a fair amount of 1080p/30fps at the start and then for first resolution, then framerate to slowly drop over the course of the generation.

 

[Byakuya769]

What I expected for a effects heavy shooter at launch.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

I am pretty sure there will be some titles that would be 60FPS like whatever Platinum Games are making for the system, and like wise some developers simply won't go above 30FPS, whether they lack the talent to do it or they want to sacrifice it for visual fidelity.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Also I bet that Watch Dogs PC was under spec, + alpha/beta version so when it launch both games should run a lot better.

 

[revolverjgw]

Expected. They're never going to settle on 60 when the games can look better at 30. Most people really don't care about the framerate, unfortunately.

 

[macewank]

nothing wrong with 1080p/30fps

i'd prefer 60fps, but if they have to knock it down to 30 to achieve whatever they're trying to achieve, i'm totally OK with that because in most cases it'll benefit me in some way (moar graphics! moar effects!)

 

[Craiji]

Hopefully that was the goal with 4GB of GDDR5...

 

[Salsa]

Probably using 4GB GDDR5 though on their devkit since it looks like 8GB GDDR5 was a very late addition. But I think 1080p/30fps will be the majority of games, first party at least.

Hopefully that was the goal with 4GB of GDDR5...

extra RAM does pretty much nothing to push morr frames, it wont change

 

[LightofRohan]

Oh really? 1080p confirmed? Very nice.

 

[Derrick01]

Surpassed my expectations. I thought for sure everyone would go for 720p/30fps again to push as much graphics as possible. Maybe as the generation goes on and people really crack the ps4 open we'll see a lot more full 1080p/60fps games.

 

[Duffyside]

This doesn't "confirm" what "the PS4 aims for." Sony is (thankfully/brilliantly) making the PS4 all about developer choice. That's what it aims for, and Guerrilla is aiming for dem graphixxx, not dat framerate.

I'm disappointed in Killzone, but beyond excited and hopeful for the console.

I bet money Knack runs at 60 and like butter.

 

[MoonLightWave]

Hopefully that was the goal with 4GB of GDDR5...

It's not like + 4GB GDDR5 will give a 30 fps boost.

 

[dark_prinny]

GG wasn't aware of the amount of RAM. So I expect improvements to the already mindblowing results.

 

[FLEABttn]

I expect a fair amount of 1080p/30fps at the start and then for first resolution, then framerate to slowly drop over the course of the generation.

Basically this. We'll start at 1080p and we'll see that drop to probably no lower than 720p towards the end of the gen.

 

[JJD]

How anyone would be disappointed with that?

They can easily go 60FPS if they lower the resolution.

In fact, I hope they do it.

Single player: 1080P 30FPS.
Multi player: 720P 60FPS.

Considering the RAM bandwidth they can throw in some godly AA on the 720P games to make then look good enough.

 

[Jack Scofield]

A few PS3 launch titles were 1080, as well, yet it still didn't become the standard. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[Salsa]

This doesn't "confirm" what "the PS4 aims for." Sony is (thankfully/brilliantly) making the PS4 all about developer choice. That's what it aims for, and Guerrilla is aiming for dem graphixxx, not dat framerate.

I'm disappointed in Killzone, but beyond excited and hopeful for the console.

I bet money Knack runs at 60 and like butter.

well yeah, as you said Guerrilla aims for a technically impressive game, and this is what they could do. I mentioned exceptions in the OP

 

[nico1982]

I expect a fair amount of 1080p/30fps at the start and then for first resolution, then framerate to slowly drop over the course of the generation.

Sadly, this is likely going to be the truth.

 

[Radec]

Here's me wishing GG wont lock it to 30fps.

Make it atleast variable upto 60fps ffs.

 

[BloodMoney]

Mark my words, GT6 will be 1080p 60fps.

 

[PsychoRaven]

I have absolutely no problem with 1080p at 30fps with tons of awesome effects turned on.

 

[evangd007]

I've long accepted that I value 60 fps far more than most developers do, and that developers even see it as desirable because of its cinematic qualities (cinema film is shot at 24 fps while low-budget TV shows like soap operas are shot at higher frame rates, creating a cognitive association between smooth, high frame rates and low production values).

 

[Salsa]

I expect a fair amount of 1080p/30fps at the start and then for first resolution, then framerate to slowly drop over the course of the generation.

sadly that sounds very accurate

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Expected.

In fact, I am going to bet that, as the generation goes on, 720p/30fps becomes the standard.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

30fps, more like 15 judging by that demo.

 

[Gbraga]

Both expected and disappointed, I guess.

 

[R_thanatos]

As long as those 30fps are steady i have no problem

 

[Snkfanatic]

Mark my words, GT6 will be 1080p 60fps.

Man I hope you are right. I can't help but think of what GT6 will be.

 

[shinobi602]

I expect a healthy amount of 1080p games this gen.

I'm sure we will see 720p/60fps games though.

 

[Sentenza]

I think I'm the only person on earth that hates 60fps. Every game I see that run 60fps loses any and all cinematic feel. It's this bizarre smoothness that alway makes me a little nauseous.

I know these kinds of weird, crazy arguments exist, and yet I still feel the urge to kick a puppy every time I see someone using them for real.

 

[i-Lo]

Mark my words, GT6 will be 1080p 60fps.

Kind of obvious given the genre and tradition.

 

[Xiaoki]

Guerilla said that Killzone 4 will have a 2.5 years development cycle so they will have had to go on a roller coaster of incomplete and constantly changing development kits.

The game would have started development when Sony was targeting 2GB.

 

[FordGTGuy]

I'm happy as a launch title it's only going to get better I don't see 1080p/60 fps as a impossibility.

Mark my words, GT6 will be 1080p 60fps.

Polyphony needs to follow Turn 10's lead and make it 60 fps locked.

 

[Radec]

Expected.

In fact, I am going to bet that, as the generation goes on, 720p/30fps becomes the standard.

We're not including the WiiU here man.



Killzone is in its pre-alpha build running at 1080/30. Think about that for a sec.

 

[MDSLKTR]

A few PS3 launch titles were 1080, as well, yet it still didn't become the standard. Don't get your hopes up.

The most graphic intensive launch game shown so far is 1080p. Killzone is no ridge racer or nba game.

 

[solarus]

I care more about resolution, 30fps doesn't bother me for the majority of titles, so this is great news.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

1080p 30fps is fine for console, imo.

If games start coming out at 720p though...

 

[PaulExcellent]

I'm OK with it.

 

[Sendou]

I expected 720p/30fps so this is definitely better.