ShockingAlberto
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I get it
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So Target shipped someone an Xbox One already? [Update: console-banned until launch]
- Thread starter CrunchinJelly
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I get it
PirateKing
Junior Member
It's like everything MS has done almost always backfired.
I once got banned for a week because I had ''F***'' in my bio. Mind you, not Fuck, just F*** but that could be anything.
MS customer service said you can do whatever you want with the console. He is free to do what he wants.
He posts youtube video of an unboxing which Major Nelson had posted weeks ago and gets banned. How is that justified?
blame space
Banned
does anyone know why he's banned
razgriz417
Member
Maybe it wasn't MS that called for the ban, maybe it was Activision? There was a guy earlier on twitter last night that was warning him about showing Ghosts since other people were getting take down notices on YT for leaking footage
Wow they got that disaster alright.
outunderthestars
Banned
The funny thing was that those videos were the first thing that made me want an XB1. Waking up to find he was banned took care of that interest rather quickly.
Then plllllease educate us on why a person who legally purchased a console, that was sent early, and updated it with a update that's currently live on Microsoft's online network. Please show us the error of our posts...I'm waiting?
Why does it matter how they do it? As long as the console works on day one it shouldn't matter how the console functions at the moment.
None of us know what MS will do for the guy, I think it would backfire if they leave the console banned. Just wait till launch day, if it's still banned then MS deserves to get their ass handed to them.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I fear it will be a long time before we see a suitable resolution.
Puppet Shadow
Member
R Use Live at your own risk.Boom. Major can save the day.
Brain of J
Banned
Yeah, as an IP attorney I'm not sure there's a valid copyright claim here unless he obtained the console unlawfully. YouTube can (and does) regularly remove stuff that is not subject to any copyright violations.
JUST BECAUSE
Vestal
Gold Member
CambriaRising
Member
Same here. I actually went to bed too late because I was reading this thread.
I think the game crashed.
you don't ban legitimate customer from using your service if a product is released early.
sony isn't doing this by the way............
there are ways and means to ENSURE that you don't let people in without banning them and its actually not that hard to do at all. Firewall, ip whitelist, done.
seriously for a company the size of MS this is a monumental fuck up that could have been so easily avoided
edit: so major has tweeted. I lean more and more and even more towards automated ban rather than intended.
The Cowboy
Member
I really hope he does, 2 weeks of terrible PR over this is not a good thing (and this could easily generate that).
Good.
You already have it in your first sentence.
Figured bad publicity would call these guys into action. Still makes me question their blanket policies.
Fingers crossed.
outunderthestars
Banned
Good to hear Larry is on the case. He always seemed like a guy who really cares about the product and the fans. Surely he sees what a mess this has become.
He went to bed like, 2 hours ago. This is going to be a long 6 or so hours.
Edit: I accidentally a word.
I thought of a comparison.
If Ford or Toyota had a new car. A dealership sold it early. If Ford or Toyota enabled a kill switch so you could not start the car, people would go crazy.
If Ford or Toyota had a new online media interface for this car, a new platform for searching the web and new maps, and it was not ready yet until the planned release date for people to use, I can see them disabling the internet portion until release date. Of course if the car actually said "available Nov 22nd" this would be much better. Otherwise the person buying the car would go back to the dealership and ask why a feature of their new car is not working.
I think MS is just trying to keep new XBOX Ones off of live until they are ready, and this does not seem crazy. They just aren't doing the PR thing correct again.
If Ford or Toyota had a new car. A dealership sold it early. If Ford or Toyota enabled a kill switch so you could not start the car, people would go crazy.
If Ford or Toyota had a new online media interface for this car, a new platform for searching the web and new maps, and it was not ready yet until the planned release date for people to use, I can see them disabling the internet portion until release date. Of course if the car actually said "available Nov 22nd" this would be much better. Otherwise the person buying the car would go back to the dealership and ask why a feature of their new car is not working.
I think MS is just trying to keep new XBOX Ones off of live until they are ready, and this does not seem crazy. They just aren't doing the PR thing correct again.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Well there you have it then. No wonder they banned him.
Clearly this means he's gonna send in a SWAT team to take the console back to Target. That's why he didnt do it in at 1am this morning, signing the checks.
razgriz417
Member
Hope the guy gets shit sorted
Mugatu
Member
Crappy thing is that then some kid will unwrap that same open box Xbox One on Christmas morning and find that its useless. And there probably won't be any more consoles in store to exchange it with.
A console ban is very serious and MS doesn't seem to realize this. What other product do you buy where the manufacturer can come and just turn it off because they don't like what you do with it?
Ford doesn't come and remove my ignition even if I drink and drive and kill someone with one of their products but filming it being taken out of the box is worthy of such punishment? This is completely and utterly ridiculous.
People should just relax about the console ban right now. Like I said above, as long as the ban is lifted at launch no one should be yelling and screaming.
I SAID MAJOR CAN SAVE THE DAY.
What? He can still tell us if it happens. He can still use the console 24/7...
Petrae
Member
Not released to the public... so what? The guy legitimately bought and paid for his console, and the retailer shipped it to him ahead of schedule, with no restrictions. So he set it up, got the update, used his console like normal, then... BAN.
Perhaps it's automated, as some gaming press folks on Twitter maintain. Perhaps it was a targeted ban because he shared info that we weren't supposed to know yet for whatever reason.
Still, he's a paying customer who got shafted because he wanted to use the item that he paid for when he got it, as opposed to waiting for a date that was not warned on the packaging or via the TOS. There are no specific rules in place about sharing images and content if you are a customer, unless you're an XBO dev who pulls TOS interpretations out of his ass.
Customers are not responsible for adhering to street dates, especially when the product itself does not warm them against it. This ban is not "fine".
It's bullshit.
Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson 2m
@Moonlightswami Love to know more about what happened w/ your console. Can you follow and DM me and I'll get this sorted out? Thanks.
saving the day! I think he sees the impending pr debacle exploding
3rdamention
Member
Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson 2m
@Moonlightswami Love to know more about what happened w/ your console. Can you follow and DM me and I'll get this sorted out? Thanks.
I guess Major is the smartest one out of the bunch. He realizes that this is the best PR they have had, he realizes this is better than what most of his co-workers have done PR Wise. Kudos to Major Nelson, and I am far from a fan of his.
Is that the best you got? lol, I knew you didn't have anything. Funny, Major Nelson just tweeted him to DM him in hopes of fixing this. So much for your theory of this being a justified bann.
"Here, sign this NDA and we can unban your account!"
Louis Cyphre
Banned
It's not as easy as flipping a switch you know.
Yeaaah, so taking down the videos without banning his console wouldve been the better approach.
I guess, if your GT gets banned on Xbox One it's also banned on your 360, right? Terminating your entire library of digital licenses across two consoles should your hardware ever fail. Now, that's a comforting thought considering that MS probably can ban you for a wet fart in front of your Kinect 2.0.
Perhaps the game can't handle xbl was blocked for the user while gameplay.
Console. Unban your console.
Uno Venova
Banned
Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson 2m
@Moonlightswami Love to know more about what happened w/ your console. Can you follow and DM me and I'll get this sorted out? Thanks.
Hope this works out well for him, instead of like Stinkles never following through with helping others get unbanned.
blame space
Banned
can someone fast track this guy a NeoGAF account already.
something fishy
Member
Larry Hryb ‏@majornelson 2m
@Moonlightswami Love to know more about what happened w/ your console. Can you follow and DM me and I'll get this sorted out? Thanks.
Good to hear. I Tweeted him myself earlier asking him to sort this out. He could ignore us but it never hurts to ask.
3rdamention
Member
Well, when he got banned, it absolutely blew the fuck up on twitter. I bet Major Nelson tells him "Look, do what you want with the system, JUST DONT SHOW FUCKING Call of Duty, its embargoed! Now we will un-ban you!"