Yep I agree with you. Basically it was just excellent marketing but in truth the game is pretty average and very very bloated (although it has some good moments).
Naughty Dog games are miles ahead imho.
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Naughty Dog games are miles ahead imho.
3liteDragon
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September.
Balducci30
Member
I forgot about Wolverine is that 2023? I wanna see what they do with that - never loved the Spider-Man character to be honest
Varteras
Gold Member
Wandering Leopard
Member
It's probably not a good idea to force yourself to play something that isn't clicking with you; how much people enjoy games will differ because everyone is different.
And I don't share your criticisms of 2018 and hope SSM don't address many of your points in the next game. I also don't have an issue with the people who say Ragnarok looks like 'DLC'.
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Wandering Leopard
Member
Maybe it's just me but I don't know how 2 games can be described as "overkill".
remember_spinal
Banned
people thinking sony won’t have big 1st party games next year, lol
Has sony ever gone a year without at least two major AAA game releases along side their usual MLB and smaller stuff?
Honestly FF16 and Spider-man 2 alone is enough for a major year alone, add the possibility of two more service games, PSVR2, some good indies, they dont really need anything else but we’ll see.
If they actually release Factions 2 next year on top of those it would probably be the best year since launch
Has sony ever gone a year without at least two major AAA game releases along side their usual MLB and smaller stuff?
Honestly FF16 and Spider-man 2 alone is enough for a major year alone, add the possibility of two more service games, PSVR2, some good indies, they dont really need anything else but we’ll see.
If they actually release Factions 2 next year on top of those it would probably be the best year since launch
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
3 Spidermans and Wolverine
remember_spinal
Banned
So at most, 2 games out of the 30 in production?
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Wandering Leopard
Member
To sum up:
- Spider-man in 2018
- Miles Morales in 2020
- Spider-man 2 penciled in for 2023
- and then Wolverine hasn't got a release date.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Not overkill but it feels like a lot of Spiderman. I wish Rocksteady was making another Arkham game. ;(
remember_spinal
Banned
and ironically the studio making all those spider-man games still managed to put out a next gen ratchet and clank game inbetween. I couldn’t say the same for Rocksteady who’s been chained to making batman games for two console generations
onnextflix5
Member
Yeh next year looks terrible for sony, not surprising as they are focusing on gass multiplayer games and stupid pc ports, at this rate they are going to run out of games to port to pc lol. Well the xbox output is also shit, so no need to try, don’t know why they don’t fund more AA games . Great games don’t need big budgets.
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Obviously you are entitled to your opinion but uncharted 4 is waaaaay better than 1 in pretty much every single way except maybe pacing.
Least of us 2 was certainly divisive but gameplay wise it’s pretty stellar and for many of us one of, if not the best stories done in a game.
Personally I think it’s just become popular to hate on them but I try to be understanding and listen to the arguments, I just think the majority are incredibly nit picky and come down to political beliefs and unmet expectations. Both of which are the fault of gamers. I watch all the same shit everyone else does and never come away expecting things that aren’t put into the games. But ND is so good they have become a cult and people have chosen their sides.
I recently played uncharted 4 again after being a little disappointed that it was not as bombastic and over the top as 3 but going back there is a lot more great set pieces and action than I think people give them credit for simply because there was far more emphasis on the story and the quiet moments.
Lost legacy however is up there with 2 in terms of great sequences and set pieces and was the most recent uncharted so again I don’t buy that they are going down hill. If anything they are getting so good that they are creating tons of intense conversations about gaming and stories and characters in games.
There is a saying that there is no such thing as bad press and I think a lot of people think that in spreading negativity about them they are helping bring them down but their games are selling better than ever. I guess we will see about last of us remake. I am wrestling with that price tag like many others but I’m definitely wanting to play through again. Look’s fucking gorgeous!
PS3 started out slow too.
MasterCornholio
Member
Plus that dev still released Ratchet. There's a high chance they will make other games not based on Marvels IPs.
Plus the switch from Spiderman to Wolverine will probably provide a very different experience.
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I hope so, i don't want another Batman clone.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
SpiderMan 2 in late 2023, Wolverine years away, and the new projects by the newly acquired studios are so far away they are hardly worth mentioning at this point.
MasterCornholio
Member
Maybe Haven can release something in 2023. Plus there's those studios working on VR games that Sony has.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Im actually looking forward to the next state of play (not the Ragnorok one) the one after because in theory we should see a bunch of unannounced Sony titles.
We know what Insomniac is working on.
Guerilla might have a surprise
ND are probably working on Factions 2 and something else, maybe that gets announced.
Housemarquee have got to be atleast someways into their next project.
Bend Studios after that new logo are almost certainly working on Syphon Filter right, so lets see how far theyve gone.
Only for me to be totally disappointed with a bunch of PSVR2 titles.
No disrespect to people who like VR and all that jazz, but that just aint it for me.
We know what Insomniac is working on.
Guerilla might have a surprise
ND are probably working on Factions 2 and something else, maybe that gets announced.
Housemarquee have got to be atleast someways into their next project.
Bend Studios after that new logo are almost certainly working on Syphon Filter right, so lets see how far theyve gone.
Only for me to be totally disappointed with a bunch of PSVR2 titles.
No disrespect to people who like VR and all that jazz, but that just aint it for me.
drezz
Member
They will need a PSVR2 state of play sooner or later, so you'll be in for a let down soon'ish unfortunaly for you.
Im really looking forward to the VR boom we will experience soon'ish.
There are many hurdles with VR but the experiences I've had with it has been so great, both in just chilling and full on action panic MP games.
Best time i've had with VR was PSVR1 playroom, doing some dumb mini games where 4players on controllers fight the VR headset user, so much fun; and even better when drinking.
Normal games are better at most things, but as tech and configurations for this/that games improve with VR, we will hopefully see that line shrunken or dissapear.
VR+Normal/flat games is hopefully the future.
Either with full on VR side by side in MP; fighting or teaming up, as Normal/flat games, or VR taking some short of support role.
I think.
Winter John
Gold Member
The problem is Sony have released so many great games they've gone and created a bunch of spoilt brats who don't appreciate the toys they already got. If I was daddy Sony I wouldn't release anymore games until people started doing their chores and showing some damn gratitude.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Anything that's not a sequel?
Krappadizzle
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TikiLagoonSam
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remember_spinal
Banned
Its most likely outcome, thers been a september show the last two years and helldivers 2 leaked already. Sony don’t really announce big 1st party games outside of showcases
GymWolf
Member
So like 90% sure?
Varteras
Gold Member
89.9. Take it or leave it
Badlucktroll
Member
Soon….
Games of Today
Member
It would be nice to see Guerilla make a dedicated Killzone 2 style multiplayer game. I would of course like a campaign in the vain of KZ2 but I wouldn't complain if it was multiplayer only.
Based on this, Sony have plenty of games in development.
Only thing is having to wait as development cycles are getting very long. Something like 4-6 year development time.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
No one is close to Sony with exclusives.
PlayedStation
Member
I'm excited for 2023 Sony. Spider-Man 2, FF 16 and hopefully part 2 of the FF7 remake, Factions 2 and PSVR2 debut. Definitely sounds like a very exciting year!
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remember_spinal
Banned
I hope maybe we get a nice beta for Factions 2 earlier on in the year
PSYGN
Member
Honestly I wouldn't mind