Whether there is an ice level or not is irrelevant. The controls for ice are extrapolated directly from the controls on standard ground. That said, there's a reason I ranked Frozen Factory so low, as overall it was by far the least enjoyable world in the game (although not for the ice physics: I just disliked the level design in general, snowball or otherwise).
"Extrapolated directly from the controls on standard ground", only in the most vague sense possible. You lose a LOT of air control if you jump while skating, and Sonic does his pirouette. And if your answer to that is "well, don't use it/don't run"... that's still a failing of the controls!
Yes, those bomb carts that may have been labeled in big red letters SUPER DANGEROUS DO NOT TOUCH. What the fuck DID you expect, given that normal carts already hurt you and removed all your momentum? It should not be an unreasonable stretch that something more visibly dangerous will have a greater detrimental effect. This isn't some shit like Sky Road 4 either, because if you can't tell the difference between the carts, go to an optometrist.
The point isn't that they aren't labeled as dangerous, it's that it's a bullshit mechanic, and not one common for Sonic games at all. I never said I couldn't "tell the difference", so stop inventing arguments to try to make your point.
That said, there are legitimate complaints to be had regarding 3d controls: since depth perception is rather poor, it's very difficult to judge where you will land. Ideally, there would have been slower "catch" rails in the 3D sections that give you a second chance, so that the player isn't too afraid to experiment.
Maybe putting entire levels over bottomless pits is a really bad idea in Sonic games that they should've learned not to do years ago.
Except the game does not force you perform the attack, and the spring will be marked before the attack executes.
If I'm already going to attack a group of enemies, the timing difference between 3 lock-ons and 4 is not extensive, or even necessarily controllable. And hell, sometimes you just don't realize between all the red reticles popping up and everything else you're trying to focus on, that a fourth one popped up to the side. It would be better if the multi-lockon distinguished between types of targets, and limited a group attack to elements of a single type.
I cannot think of a scenario when your first situation occurred, let alone was significantly detrimental.
That's nice. It still happens. It's really bad on the stages with a lot of enemies (like that Tropical Resort stage) where if they wander off the bottom of the screen, Sonic loses them, but they can just wander right back into view and hurt you while you're recovering. Because they're inches away from Sonic, but lock-on is based on the camera view.
This has the opposite effect in some of the widest shots. There's that Desert stage where the camera pulls way back, and there's the quicksand pits with worms inside and the thin paths between, where you're supposed to homing attack enemies. You'll start to go after a particular line, but suddenly veer hard right as it picked up another one way off to the side. Oops, you're going this way now, better hope you can recover!
This is a thing in the game. You can't deny it. It causes problems, you just choose to ignore them.
So now your blaming the game because of your own ignorance and inability for experimentation?
At most, this is an explanatory issue, not a mechanical one.
It is an explanatory issue. The two buttons are seemingly identical except for one function that is not immediately evident. Attacking me for "ignorance" is pretty gross.
On bounce, we must have been playing entirely different games.I cannot count the number of times the homing picked up something I needed to bounce on.
I mean, this is a problem too! Like, this doesn't disqualify what I said! I remember that to do the Bounce mission I got, I had to face away with enemies just so the Kick wouldn't trigger.
The general poor experience with bounce is probably from the game being slow to pick up things directly below you so you can bounce on them (and doing a homing attack on something right beneath you is weird momentum-wise).
These aren't things directly below me. Like it's terrible about picking up those golden bombs from the pigs sometimes, as an example.
Bounce is probably limited to 3 to signal players that there's no more height. An arbitrary decision, and I think we can both agree that this is a rather minor point.
I still don't like it, and it's contrary to pretty much any prior Sonic game that had a bounce mechanic, so...
No, it's legitimately fun. The chargeable spin dash, albeit one use per wall, gives you control over speed and height, and when you return to a ground state you (as expected) keep all your momentum you had on the wall. The opening of Sky Road 1, and the one section in Lava Mountain 4, would have to be my favorite uses.
Wall kick was the most unintuitive mechanic in the whole game: you can indefinitely keep your height on a player-facing wall for... some reason? Also requires repeated presses of the same button. But if you enjoyed it then I have no qualm.
I don't think you entirely understood me. I was okay with running ALONG the walls. That sort of works, along with the Spindash mini-boost. Running UP the walls is awful, especially Sonic catching onto the ledge and flipping himself up.
Wall Jumping between walls is an extension of the awful running up the walls (SAW NOISE, SAW NOISE, SAW NOISE), and seems to be arbitrarily implemented, working in some sections, but not in others.
All in all, Lost World has substantially more mechanical depth than colors and generations, as evidenced by the fact that we can even have this debate. It's a shame the game suffered in so many small ways that the end product still doesn't feel right.
I really think you're giving the mechanics too much credit. Assassin's Creed came out six years prior. Parkour in games has come a long way, and can be presented in a fluid, fast, easily-controllable way. Sonic should've been at that standard, period.
But it's my opinion that Sega were hedging their bets on Lost World anyway, due to the faltering status of the Wii U, so the game wasn't about to get the focus and attention it needed to be any better.
Complete and total aside: The voice direction is weird. The Deadly Six are obviously 1-dimensional cartoon characters. (Zeena is literally "The Female", and that's kind of gross!) But I swear Mike Pollock thought the game was going to be more serious than it was, with some of Eggman's line deliveries. He seriously goes in on it.
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