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Sonic the Hedgehog getting a 3D classics remake for 3DS
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JimboJones
Member
I looked at the images in the link and seriously thought "what is different."
I am still serious, I can't see it from that website. I suppose the 3D effect is supposed to happen when you're playing the game on 3DS, but most other games seem to give you some hint of what to expect when you're looking at screens from a non-3D device... like your computer.
Like this image:
I can't read Japanese, but I figure that they're showing off the two versions. As far as I can tell, both images are identical except for some saturation. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here.
I'm sorry but I'm being serious
I assumed the image on the right was some kind of filter to make it look like it was on an old TV.
Anyway it's not ment to look all that different, it's ment to look like Sonic 1 with some 3D depth.
Infernal Monkey
Member
Very. Huge amounts of slowdown.
Seven Force
Banned
As far as I know, the emulation in that collection is pretty damn sketchy.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Oh, nice!
I'm there.
I'm there.
I was looking around for what the differences might be before you made your post, and it seems like the parallax clouds (and some other stuff) were part of a second version of the game that was released in multiple regions, including Japan, North America and Europe. The spike invincibility thing wasn't changed in Sonic 1 until Sonic Jam.
So...I dunno! Maybe they're just using Japanese and overseas as shorthand for the original versus the revised version.
Arc Christelle
Member
I disagree. After playing Ristar for the first time a couple of weeks ago, It's all I thought about as my long arms stretched and grabbed stuff, swinging from poles, etc. I though was okay at best. Only thing it needed was the combat and tightrope sections. But I did love swimming with him, but that's as fun as it got for me.
I am one of the few who enjoyed Sonic 3D Blast, replay it today, and still do. I wish I could say the same for Sonic R, but it's a pretty bad game. The funny part is however, as I get better at it (and start coming in first without even trying) I start to like it. It's weird. lol
Kirby and Kid Icarus have borders to display in their original resolution, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, I was thinking of Kid Icarus and Kirby (the only 3D classics I own). I don't think Sonic 1 honestly needs a visual update anyways. So I think just adding the 3D to it is fine. Although you're right that wide screen would be a nice option.
Er... no? Lower resolution (meanwhile 3DS has the perfect res) and I heard there's slowdowns. No thanks.
Seven Force
Banned
Twinbee as well, I believe.
billy beane
Banned
Is there a reason they don't do more 3D Classics? I like the idea, but there have been very games.
Stop. Just... stop.
The Hermit
Member
My first game ever... yes!
Come on Sega, release this stuff over here!
I swear, if Sonic 2 gets this same treatment, I think I'll have to import a Japanese 3DS.
I picked it up for novelty sake, and aside from a slightly wonky aspect ratio the emulation's decent, at least on a DSi. I think I MIGHT have read something about it taking advantage of the extra memory on the DSi though.
I swear, if Sonic 2 gets this same treatment, I think I'll have to import a Japanese 3DS.
I picked it up for novelty sake, and aside from a slightly wonky aspect ratio the emulation's decent, at least on a DSi. I think I MIGHT have read something about it taking advantage of the extra memory on the DSi though.
Shadow Hog
Member
First off, don't buy that collection; IIRC it has speed and sound issues that kind of ruin the whole thing.
Second off, I'm pretty sure most of the 3D Classics line doesn't use polygons.
It's way more work intensive than they originally thought. Basically assets in most 2D games aren't arranged in the orderly fashion that they appear to be. It's not as simple as flicking a 3D button.
Something else I just noticed on that page:
I wonder what else they have planned.
#25YearsOfNintendon't
Aaron Strife
Banned
I totally read that in Jake's voice. Awesome.
My first game ever... yes!
Oni Link 666
Member
I've never tried it. Good to know, though.
You're right, they do. They're also the laziest (and ugliest in KI's case) remakes of the bunch.
You stop.
I know for sure Excitebike and Urban Champion are fully remade in Polygons. I'm not so sure about the rest, but some look like they have animated sprites as textures over polygons.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Pass unless it has extra content like new levels to play with. Screams laziness to me.
JennyTablina
Member
The 3D classics are harder to remake than they might seem at first, as they effectively need to go back to the original code and rewrite it so it can do the new 3D effects with the background and such, it's not like virtual console where they just slap it in the custom emulator with a few minor engine adjustments and release it.
I think Nintendo felt a lot of people were making the conclusion that these were glorified roms with needless 3D stuck on top, and despite best efforts (making Excitebike free to early adopters, making the Kid Icarus remake a freebie with the 3DS game preorder) found it was too much effort for too little gain. Thus why maybe Nintendo and Sega are being a little gunshy about sticking this on the western e-shops right now.
Also ever since Sega started cutting down their community staff, things have been very quiet on the western front bar for the Sonic Dash iOS release and Sonic 1 and 2 iOS announcement. The mention of different Sonic 1 versions, spin dash toggle, and the CRT version makes me wonder if Sega japan also got the Retro engine modded to work on 3DS - also the icon for Sonic 1 makes me hopeful that it's part of a series rather than a one-off (Sonic signpost holding one finger up, bet Sonic 2 will be a signpost with Tails/Sonic holding 2 fingers up...)
captmcblack
Member
Every single one of these things should be purchasable in the US.
This better come here!
This better come here!
Well, if it is like the others than it is M2. You know their "CRT" mode is going to be exquisite.
Twinbee and Xevious are the same, which means Excitebike and Urban Champion are the only ones they bothered to do anything with. All the options and the CRT border in this version of Sonic 1 seems pretty nice to me.
Green Mamba
Member
"Fully customizable controls?"
All of the buttons do the same thing.
All of the buttons do the same thing.
Oni Link 666
Member
Well, Super Hang-On and Space Harrier are also in widescreen and they're part of this same line of Sega's 3D Classics, making this Sonic one the odd one out. The other options do look nice.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
I've been asking for this since the 3DS came out.
I actually made a collection of 3D Mockups in MPO format. If you go to "suretobeband.com/3ds" on the 3DS browser, it'll take you to a page with a bunch of 'em. Click on any of them and it'll download the 3D MPO. I had a lot of fun making them, and it seems like it'd be easy enough for developers to stick this in their older games.
I actually made a collection of 3D Mockups in MPO format. If you go to "suretobeband.com/3ds" on the 3DS browser, it'll take you to a page with a bunch of 'em. Click on any of them and it'll download the 3D MPO. I had a lot of fun making them, and it seems like it'd be easy enough for developers to stick this in their older games.
BassForever
Member
Time to buy another copy of Sonic 1 I guess... *sigh*
You mean release the same games over and over again?
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
I will buy all three of Sega's 3D classics if they come to NA. Please, let me give you my money.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I don't care about "official" 3D Classics. I'd rather have 3D Sonic 1 than 3D Urban Champions.
Luckily I don't have to choose!
I looked at the images in the link and seriously thought "what is different."
I am still serious, I can't see it from that website. I suppose the 3D effect is supposed to happen when you're playing the game on 3DS, but most other games seem to give you some hint of what to expect when you're looking at screens from a non-3D device... like your computer.
Like this image:
I can't read Japanese, but I figure that they're showing off the two versions. As far as I can tell, both images are identical except for some saturation. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious here.
The Japanese on the left says "Normal" and the right says "Classic"
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Oh look.
They like making money.
Then why. Why do Shenmue 1 and 2 remain without ports of any kind.
They like making money.
Then why. Why do Shenmue 1 and 2 remain without ports of any kind.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
If it comes to the US I'll buy it, partially because I want to play it, but mostly because I want to encourage them to do the same to Sonics 2 and 3