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[ClearCELL]

This PS Wand better be cheap like $40 - $50.

 

[yellowjacket25]

I like the Arc name. Sounds cool. Now I just want to see what the final design of the controller looks like. Oh, and some games would be nice too.

 

[Sutanreyu]

Arc?

as in, Another Retarded Controller?

Fixed.

Jokes, of course.

I actually like the name. I hope the applications make it worthwhile, though.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

I like the name. Now I just need to see the price and the list of games that will put it to good use.

 

[Elios83]

This PS Wand better be cheap like $40 - $50.

All the package (controller and camera) should cost like a game, so let's say 60$.
But if we look at the individual price of the Playstation Eye and the DS3 then....well it's not happening, we're looking at 80$ as the minimum price.
And it's a shame because I think Sony will waste the potential of this controller by making their usual mistakes... high launch price and weak launch lineup.

 

[yurinka]

Another Retarded Controller... :lol :lol Now I like this name :lol :lol :lol

All the package (controller and camera) should cost like a game, so let's say 60$.
But if we look at the individual price of the Playstation Eye and the DS3 then....well it's not happening, we're looking at 80$ as the minimum price.
And it's a shame because I think Sony will waste the potential of this controller by making their usual mistakes... high launch price and weak launch lineup.

I bet:
-Arc $50
-Bundle Arc + PsEye + showelware minigame collection $80

Even the proper prices would be $30 and $60

 

[K.Jack]

Arc (or is it ARC?) is a fantastic name.

 

[AndyD]

All the package (controller and camera) should cost like a game, so let's say 60$.
But if we look at the individual price of the Playstation Eye and the DS3 then....well it's not happening, we're looking at 80$ as the minimum price.
And it's a shame because I think Sony will waste the potential of this controller by making their usual mistakes... high launch price and weak launch lineup.

When bundled the price is always drastically lower. Headset plus game makes the headset only 10 bucks extra.

I imagine they will have minigame collection+eye+wand(s) at about $60 total. And a minigame collection + wand(s) at $40. Wii Play style. If they don't then it will have a tough time selling.

 

[HamPster PamPster]

I bet:
-Arc $40
-Bundle Arc + PsEye + showelware minigame collection $70.

In my ideal world the box you buy for $70 will come with the new Ape Escape game as a pack in (which should be both a mini game collection and a full on new Ape Escape adventure)

Anything less then that will suck in my opinion - If the new ape escape game is just the monkeys playing different sports then I will be extremely upset. We've waited too long just to play monkey golf

 

[Thetallywacker]

I'd name it C.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

This PS Wand better be cheap like $40 - $50.

The MSRP on the EyeToy alone which is required is $40. Time will tell how much they are willing to take a hit on for.

 

[DrPirate]

I like the name "arc"

 

[Apath]

Arc sounds much better than Gem to me.

 

[soco]

disco stick is still the best one...

but arc is better than the other names.

although, now, when i think of the name, i imagine someone holding it making an hand motion in an arc, and going 'hAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaay'.

 

[RSTEIN]

Yeah, Arc is cool. Sphere is OK. Gem sucks.

 

[Cindres]

I thought this was going to be a bumped thread from years ago when the original PS3 controller design was shown :lol
Arc is better than Sphere or Gem anyway.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

I like the name.

 

[vilmer_]

My heart is broken.

 

[Tobor]

Arc is fine. Now what is MS going to call Natal?

 

[Haunted]

Dildo > Disco Stick -> Wand > Sphere > Arc > Gem

fixed.

Arc is fine. Now what is MS going to call Natal?

I think they should just stick with the codename.

Spoiler

Déjà vu total.

 

[Thrakier]

Arc? Argh!!!

 

[Vinci]

fixed.

You missed prettyprettyprincessstick.

 

[KittonGotWet]

Arc sounds great, should be a huge hit!!

 

[Dennis]

Sony Shaft > Wand > Arc > Gem

Fixed.

 

[Tobor]

I think they should just stick with the codename.

Spoiler

Déjà vu total.

We both know where we stand. Let's lower our revolvers and walk away. :lol

 

[Haunted]

We both know where we stand. Let's lower our revolvers and walk away.

well played :lol

 

[Son of Godzilla]

I would love to see the idiotic branding research behind this. Those are always so hypnotically stupid.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

i think it's pretty obvious by now that they are leaking these code names so they can judge people's reactions before deciding on something. apparently they keep getting warmer with each new name.

arc is fine with me, but i don't think they've chosen something that's exploitable by the innernets enough yet. "another retarded controller" is pretty good, but it's not quite "why do they call it a 360..." yet.

c'mon sony marketing guys, i know you can come up with something that's both cool and has the perfect letters for legendary meme.

 

[Gomu Gomu]

No thanks, I'll be calling it the PS wand.

Arc is fine. Now what is MS going to call Natal?

And what wrong with Natal?

 

[nocode]

Sounds stupid, just like every other video game hardware name. 6 months after it comes out nobody will question the name.

 

[Gospel]

No thanks, I'll be calling it the PS wand.

And what wrong with Natal?

For one, a lot of people don't know the proper way to pronounce it.
The name isn't very notable either. I would say "Arc" isn't either, but then I find questioning Sony's marketing decisions vain.



heh, PS Wand sounds like "piss wand" when I say it aloud

 

[Haunted]

PS Wand sound like piss wand when I say it out loud

Fits right in!

 

[theBishop]

I was just doing a bunch of thesaurus searches for words that I associate with motion control (kinetic, social, fun, etc), and with Sony's in particular (eye, observe, sphere, etc)...

Anyway, I came up with "Behold", which is maybe interesting. It's a verb for one thing, so it's active. It relates to vision, which incorporates the Eye Camera. And it has the word "hold" in it, which brings in the wand. Also, the presumption with "Behold" is that something interesting is about to happen.

Is this retarded?

 

[yurinka]

And what wrong with Natal?

Nothing. He's refering MS mentioned Natal is a temporal codename, not the final one.

Sounds stupid, just like every other video game hardware name. 6 months after it comes out nobody will question the name.

True.

BTW awesome avatar, awesome game.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Arc is by far the best of the names I've seen proposed so far.

True but that doesn't change the fact that it still sucks. It's just the other names sucked much more.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

I was just doing a bunch of thesaurus searches for words that I associate with motion control (kinetic, social, fun, etc), and with Sony's in particular (eye, observe, sphere, etc)...

Anyway, I came up with "Behold", which is maybe interesting. It's a verb for one thing, so it's active. It relates to vision, which incorporates the Eye Camera. And it has the word "hold" in it, which brings in the wand. Also, the presumption with "Behold" is that something interesting is about to happen.

Is this retarded?

i can dig it, but i can see how it would be weird to verbally emit from my mouth face when telling someone how to do something.

"no, you need to hold your behold like THIS... no... like THIS.... just here, give me the behold so i can show you how to hold it" etc.

 

[KTallguy]

Edit: FUCK Beaten!!!!

 

[theBishop]

i can dig it, but i can see how it would be weird to verbally emit from my mouth face when telling someone how to do something.

"no, you need to hold your behold like THIS... no... like THIS.... just here, give me the behold so i can show you how to hold it" etc.

Totally, but this isn't how we talk about the Wii either. We call it the "wiimote", and most people call it "the remote" or "wii remote" (what nintendo calls it officially). "Wii" is just branding, which is all I'm saying "Behold" is. So you'd have "Behold! Sports" or whatever. In practice, most people will probably call the thing "the wand". The first time I played Wii sports, no one told me to "wii it to the left".

 

[alr1ght]

how about "this will sell for $40 and have some legit software?" But arc is fine.

 

[Gospel]

Fits right in!

:lol Wow

 

[KillerAJD]

Totally, but this isn't how we talk about the Wii either. We call it the "wiimote", and most people call it "the remote" or "wii remote" (what nintendo calls it officially). "Wii" is just branding, which is all I'm saying "Behold" is. So you'd have "Behold! Sports" or whatever. In practice, most people will probably call the thing "the wand". The first time I played Wii sports, no one told me to "wii it to the left".

Sure, but then you're talking about the hardware that plays the games, and in that case, it would be the PS3. You said it yourself, the wiimote is officially the Wii Remote to Nintendo. Now, I think the Behold stuff could be pretty awesome for marketing, but I don't think it would work as well for what the controller is actually called.

 

[cnizzle06]

I'm not entirely sold on this thing. Can someone explain to me how it differentiates itself from the wii remote?

 

[theBishop]

Sure, but then you're talking about the hardware that plays the games, and in that case, it would be the PS3. You said it yourself, the wiimote is officially the Wii Remote to Nintendo. Now, I think the Behold stuff could be pretty awesome for marketing, but I don't think it would work as well for what the controller is actually called.

Yeah, I'm most likely going to call it "the wand" regardless of what Sony dubs it.

 

[theBishop]

I'm not entirely sold on this thing. Can someone explain to me how it differentiates itself from the wii remote?

In a nutshell, it's just way more accurate, which allows for applications that were (are?) impossible on Wii (prior to motion+?). The E3 demo has some pretty solid examples even if they're just rough-and-dirty tech demos.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

Totally, but this isn't how we talk about the Wii either. We call it the "wiimote", and most people call it "the remote" or "wii remote" (what nintendo calls it officially). "Wii" is just branding, which is all I'm saying "Behold" is. So you'd have "Behold! Sports" or whatever. In practice, most people will probably call the thing "the wand". The first time I played Wii sports, no one told me to "wii it to the left".

true, but i still run into those awkward moments every time i play wii with friends. some pause before calling it whatever they call it, as they had to decide in their mind which sounded less weird. "no my............ wiimote...... has the heart sticker on the back of it. yours is the busted up looking one". while others just say "controller" more often than remote. it's weird that we call it that because it's not really a remote controller in the traditional sense (but is technically) as it's not a channel-changer for your tv, it's a game controlling input device. (bah, semantics, ANYWAY)

behold would be cool for the branding, but im too worried that they would just bomb like eyetoy did when they tried to brand everything. that's my biggest fear with sony's new games that require the eye/wands is that they will brand it all to hell and it will just remind consumers of the shovelware crap that they see on the wii aisles at retail.

as far as pricing is concerned, i don't think we should look at the eye's current price as an indication as to what they will price it at. there are likely to be margins on the eye, and sony's usual routine is to price their big guns under cost (lose money) for a bit while they try to get costs down. my best guess is $60 for eye/wand/PSN game(s) voucher. $40 for wand alone.

 

[Raist]

I'm not entirely sold on this thing. Can someone explain to me how it differentiates itself from the wii remote?

There's a couple of threads floating around discussing this at length.

 

[cnizzle06]

In a nutshell, it's just way more accurate, which allows for applications that were (are?) impossible on Wii (prior to motion+?). The E3 demo has some pretty solid examples even if they're just rough-and-dirty tech demos.

Fair enough, but I thought the Wii plus gave the remote a 1 to 1 reaction.

 

[cnizzle06]

There's a couple of threads floating around discussing this at length.

Alrighty, I suppose I'll browse about.

 

[nocode]

I call the "wii remote" the controller when I'm asking for someone to had it to me. As in, hand me the controller, it's my turn. That's what all my friends and family have done as well. True, the wiimote looks like a tv controller (or remote) but I bet most people will instinctively do the same thing with Sony's ARC.

BTW awesome avatar, awesome game.

Thanks, and agreed!

 

[theBishop]

Fair enough, but I thought the Wii plus gave the remote a 1 to 1 reaction.

honestly, I don't know what the motion+ adds. It seems to me that something game-changing would have to be implemented on the tracking side, not the box-at-the-end-of-the-controller side. But I have no clue.