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[Averon]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-profit-surges-in-first-quarter-1438236740

TOKYO— Sony Corp. said Thursday that its net profit more than tripled during the April-June quarter, helped by strong sales in its videogame and smartphone image sensor divisions.

Net income rose to ¥82.44 billion ($665 million) from ¥26.8 billion a year earlier. Analysts surveyed by the Nikkei had expected a profit of ¥50.5 billion. Sales were ¥1.81 trillion, roughly flat from ¥1.8 trillion a year earlier.

Sony as a whole seems to be doing fantastic. Hard to believe a few years ago they were selling buildings and bleeding red ink.

 

[hodayathink]

Is Sony actually making money now? I'm always confused with profit/net worth/revenue

The gaming division? Yes.

The company as a whole? Ehhh.... They're doing okay, but mobile and TV still aren't doing very well.

 

[darkwing]

Are they not revealing 'sold to consumers' numbers now?

Maybe they over shipped because of Rocket League

 

[RyoonZ]

索尼大法好！

 

[Welfare]

Are they not revealing 'sold to consumers' numbers now?

Quarter results are always shipped numbers.

 

[Striek]

Are they not revealing 'sold to consumers' numbers now?

They periodically reveal sold to consumers at press events. They always reveal sold to retailers ("shipped") in their financial documents.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Seems as if the gaming market sniffed out a FF7 remake was on the horizon and purchased a PS4 several years in advance in anticipation.

 

[ZhugeEX]

Are they not revealing 'sold to consumers' numbers now?

These are financials. So it will always be shipped numbers.

We get updates from Sony on sold through at random times throughout the year.

 

[vinnygambini]

Sony's Financial Services unit never cease to impress me.

Good god it's a moneymaker.

Mobile is just a lost cause.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Wait, Sony as a whole I turning a profit now?

 

[Rymuth]

PS4 sales thread! (Well Sony financial thread, but this is a gaming forum so close enough.)

It's 2:40 AM here. Time for drinking game.

Lemme guess:

1)

Spoiler

WTF?! That many? What are people even playing on this? PS4 has no Gaaeeeeemz

2)

Spoiler

Sakujou appearance

3)

Spoiler

PS4 dominating is bad for the industry

Anything else I've missed?

 

[Makareu]

Anyway. You guys should know that PS4 sold better this quarter than Xbox One + Xbox 360 + Wii U + Wii + 3DS combined....

Impressive (and borderline unnatural) when you put it that way.

 

[Oersted]

You forgot the Vita

Like everyone lol

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-profit-surges-in-first-quarter-1438236740



Sony as a whole seems to be doing fantastic. Hard to believe a few years ago they were selling buildings and bleeding red ink.

Smartphones, Movies, Home Electronics ( read TVs) keep decreasing.

 

[Nightengale]

Are they not revealing 'sold to consumers' numbers now?

This is quarterly earnings. We only deal with shipments here.

Sold to consumer numbers are numbers revealed as a PR victory at their timing of choice. Also, it's obviously not 25 million yet so why bother?

 

[StrongBlackVine]

Seems as if the gaming market sniffed out a FF7 remake was on the horizon and purchased a PS4 several years in advance in anticipation.

Well duh because there is nothing to play right now.

 

[1st Course]

These are financials. So it will always be shipped numbers.

We get updates from Sony on sold through at random times throughout the year.

Think they might stopped reporting them? Last update we got was ~5 months.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

About to cross streams with the PS2, this holiday will be interesting, especially if there is a price drop.

 

[Newtype-001]

!!!!!!(ﾟﾛﾟ&#23662屮
Nice. Always amazes me how quick things can change.

 

[Tenebrous]

Absolutely no idea how & why this is happening, but I'm glad Sony have a hit on their hands.

 

[AmethystEnd]

Anyway. You guys should know that PS4 sold better this quarter than Xbox One + Xbox 360 + Wii U + Wii + 3DS combined....

Wh-wha? Whoa. Holy shit.

 

[ZhugeEX]

Sony increased their forecast for PS4 shipments this year from 16 million to 16.5 million which means that they expect 38.8 million PlayStation 4's to be sold in worldwide by March 31st 2016.

Think they might stopped reporting them? Last update we got was ~5 months.

Nah, We'll get updates at big milestones or during holiday and stuff.

 

[darkwing]

Sony increased their forecast for PS4 shipments this year from 16 million to 16.5 million which means that they expect 38.8 million PlayStation 4's to be sold in worldwide by March 31st 2016.

that UC4 bump

 

[benny_a]

Absolutely no idea how & why this is happening, but I'm glad Sony have a hit on their hands.

They got what people crave: Stability updates

 

[Gurish]

WTF? The PS4 by itself just shipped 50% of the total gaming hardware units this quarter. No price drop, and no "AAA Exclusive In a huge, established franchise"

Yeah, 2016 will be the year the PS4 takes over.

Is it not taking over already with such numbers?

 

[FinalStageBoss]

But it's got no gamez

What a beast

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Sony increased their forecast for PS4 shipments this year from 16 million to 16.5 million which means that they expect 38.8 million PlayStation 4's to be sold in worldwide by March 31st 2016.

That's quite something. 30 million units sold at the end of CY 2015 is a no-brainer.

 

[jayu26]

Lemme guess:

1)

Spoiler

WTF?! That many? What are people even playing on this? PS4 has no Gaaeeeeemz

2)

Spoiler

Sakujou appearance

3)

Spoiler

PS4 dominating is bad for the industry

Anything else I've missed?

ZhugeEX Graphs and Kaz gifs. Also, alt account juniors...but one of them got banned earlier in the NPD thread. Should have waited few hours before making that post.

 

[Nightengale]

Think they might stopped reporting them? Last update we got was ~5 months.

You report sell-through figures when you hit certain milestones.

You don't want to appear like too much of a loser by touting every single stat update every month.

 

[Goodacre0081]

this is great news for Sony and the PS4 but at the user level the network problems are really starting to become almost a weekly occurrence. I think they really need to invest in some network infrastructure if they haven't already.

doesn't really belong in a sales thread but I think a strong network can put many potential users fears to rest amid all the problems that keep popping up.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Absolutely no idea how & why this is happening, but I'm glad Sony have a hit on their hands.

you haven't been paying attention much then.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Sony increased their forecast for PS4 shipments this year from 16 million to 16.5 million which means that they expect 38.8 million PlayStation 4's to be sold in worldwide by March 31st 2016.

If they don't have a price drop planed for the holiday then they certainly have some great deals planned.

 

[Welfare]

Think they might stopped reporting them? Last update we got was ~5 months.

What major milestone would they have passed since then?

 

[noobie]

where are VITA Numbers.. ??

 

[M.D]

I think Kaz said this is the last year they would post a loss, so not out of the wood-work yet, but certainly turning it around and should be in the black next year.

The gaming division? Yes.

The company as a whole? Ehhh.... They're doing okay, but mobile and TV still aren't doing very well.

So does this

Net income rose to ¥82.44 billion ($665 million)

Not mean they made money at least for this quarter?

 

[xehanort]

They got what people crave: Stability updates

Where are dem stability gif though?

 

[Carl]

Holy balls that's quite a lot. Nice work Sony

 

[Man]

There should be 40million PS4 in consumer hands in time for Morpheus.

 

[Rymuth]

You report sell-through figures when you hit certain milestones.

You don't want to appear like too much of a loser by touting every single stat update every month.

I saw what you did there.

 

[1st Course]

You report sell-through figures when you hit certain milestones.

You don't want to appear like too much of a loser by touting every single stat update every month.

What major milestone would they have passed since then?

Good point.

Maybe we will get an announcement at Gamescom.

 

[Crayon]

I'm feeling like I should go get one of these things. Like I'm missing the console zeitgeist.

 

[vinnygambini]

Smartphones, Movies, Home Electronics ( read TVs) keep decreasing.

Movies segment is extremely volatile and can not be seen through the lens of quarter vs quarter comparison.

Last year they had Spiderman & Jumpstreet.

This year they had Aloha...

Smartphones & Home Electronics is just a lost cause. It's dead jim.

 

[jayu26]

Good point.

Maybe we will get an announcement at Gamescom.

I wouldn't expect anything until Paris show.

 

[jjonez18]

This train doesn't stop. Great numbers for PS4. I wish they disclosed 1st party software sales like Nintendo though. Would love to see where games like TLOU are sitting.

 

[ZhugeEX]

where are VITA Numbers.. ??

Shhhhh.....

There is no update for legacy devices

 

[wmlk]

I don't know what I'm missing.

Gimme some JRPGs and I'll finally jump.

Spoiler

PS3 is a Persona 5 machine right now. Soon...

 

[SolarPowered]

And to think Uncharted 4 isn't even out yet.

This won't even compare to the day Sony begins to sell Slim PS4 models. Then we can laugh at the people who seriously thought the PS4 wouldn't reach PS3 numbers.

 

[hodayathink]

So does this



Not mean they made money at least for this quarter?

They made money, but some of it was just good exchange rates. If you read the OP, game and image sensors are doing very well, but the parts of the company that have been doing badly (TV, mobile) are still doing badly, and overall sales are down.

 

[shink]

Their Devices (Image sensors) side is doing quite well too.

 

[jayu26]

I don't know what I'm missing.

Gimme some JRPGs and I'll finally jump.

I don't think you have been paying attention, but it's second coming of JRPGs.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Good, they should double that with UC collection, Battlefront, CoD and AC marketing deals.